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Re: Copyvio?

Yeah, it's moderately common for newcomers to just post stuff they've seen somewhere that they liked; our admin reasons-for-deletion menu includes "blatant copyright violation". --Pi zero (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 9 September 2018

Re: A hacker threatened to delete Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page‎

Thanks for editing the wording here, Leaderboard. (I believe this may possibly need a re-write on Sunday in the case the attack is successful.) --Gryllida (chat) 10:45, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for tireless monitoring of recent changes, Leaderboard

Thanks for reverting numerous spam edits and marking pages for speedy deletion. Really appreciate it.

It's a pity that after being marked as spam, the default deletion reason no longer includes the nickname of the account which created it. I wish this was fixed. Filed T207136 - make the default deletion reason a bit smarter.

--Gryllida (chat) 08:42, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

I have my eye on this as something for a dialog-based assistant to facilitate. --Pi zero (talk) 12:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Is this in a wish-list somewhere now? --Gryllida (chat) 05:48, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

user page?

Is there really a problem with that rather vague biographical paragraph being on their user page? It appears to be about the account owner. It doesn't contain external links. It doesn't name the businesses involved. Perhaps you're seeing a problem with it more clearly than I am? --Pi zero (talk) 17:09, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@Pi zero: It is. This person has been dumping it crosswiki and has sock accounts (you blocked one of them and even revoked talkpage access), and actively reverts those who try to mark it for deletion. Leaderboard (talk) 17:43, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Fair enough. --Pi zero (talk) 17:50, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Aasi or Aasia

You have changed the name from Aasia to Aasi. According to sources the name is reported as "Aasia or Asia" even en-WP indicates (Aasia Bibi) her name "Asia". Now decide what the real name should be, and advise me, plz. Nannadeem (talk) 17:07, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@Nannadeem: The UK based sources (eg: this one) tell the name as Asia, so I think you should change it to that. Also @Pi zero: Leaderboard (talk) 17:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok I will appreciate action and decision by Pi zero (talk · contribs). Thanks Nannadeem (talk) 17:27, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Afaict, all the sources except Al Jaz use "Asia"; even the Pakistani sources use "Asia". So "Asia" should be a reasonable choice for us, and in fact anything else would require some good reason that currently isn't in evidence. --Pi zero (talk) 18:39, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

For tagging articles do you edit by hand? Here is a script if you don't have one: User:Gryllida/js/TagSpam.js

To install add this line to Special:MyPage/common.js:

importScript('User:Gryllida/js/TagSpam.js');

and look for 'tag spam' button on the page in the same section as 'What links here'.

--Gryllida (talk) 10:44, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

@Gryllida: Ok, seems to work (even if it's a bit crude). Maybe make it a bit more interactive? Leaderboard (talk) 11:00, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

What kind of interaction would you suggest to add? Gryllida (talk) 00:51, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

@Gryllida: There is no indication that the template was added once the link is clicked. One easy thing would be to simply refresh the page so that the template was indeed added. Leaderboard (talk) 10:17, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Great idea, Leaderboard.

The current version does this now -- without even reloading the page. (diff.) Gryllida (talk) 00:27, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Editing ORs

ORs can be easily identified by the title. They generally do not have {{editing}}--it is more of a personal choice. Best not to edit an OR while the AR is editing it. You can check the history in case of doubt.
•–• 08:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

(s)

Be careful about the reasoning. Plus the current script does not seem you can have much control.
117.198.179.98 (talk) 12:15, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

You are right; it's just me being lazy and using Gryllida's script to tag it in one click. Leaderboard (talk) 12:18, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

A small tweak, and burden of one more click: you can have User:Acagastya/FUR.js. Allows you to change the reason, if you have to use what is not default. Mine is set to "not news".
•–• 12:24, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

I would suggest you to copy the code to your own file; so that you can set your own default reason: let it be spam or test—and also, protection against changes to script for different use. FUR was for Fair Use Rationale before I changed to deletion.
•–• 12:31, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

@Acagastya: Thank you, it works properly. Leaderboard (talk) 11:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Leaderboard

Wish you the best in the new year Leaderboard.

Not sure if anyone showed User:Gryllida/js/TagTest.js, it seems not in your User:Leaderboard/common.js and it might be useful.

Wish you the best in advancing your technical and writing expertise at Wikinews and elsewhere. --Gryllida (talk) 00:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Gryllida:. From what I see it adds another option to tag it as a test page. I'll stick with Agastya's for now as it's a bit more flexible. Thanks for the help though. Leaderboard (talk) 11:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Nice, thanks for letting me know that. I wasn't following the discussions for a few weeks and it is a great pleasure to know that there is a more flexible version available. Gryllida (talk) 23:36, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Loss of Pi zero Still unknown to many

Hi Leaderboard Just to let you know. I saw you contributed this to wn, so I thought I would bring this to your attention. Pi Zero had participated in many wmf wikis, but I am still running into pages that do acknowledge his loss to the wikimedia movement. Ottawahitech (talk) 23:36, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech:, thanks. is there something specific that I need to do? Leaderboard (talk) 08:00, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for responding and pinging me. There are a couple of things people can do (possibly more?):

• Use Template:deceased Wikimedian on both the User-page and the User-talk-page on wikis where Pi zero participated
• Write an obit for the Signpost Ottawahitech (talk) 15:38, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
• Improve the photo displayed at Wikinews_mourns_loss_of_volunteer_John_Shutt, I have no idea how, but there are others at Commons who know how to perform this magic Ottawahitech (talk) 15:51, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech:

• The former is kind of optional - us at en.wikibooks didn't do that, just opted to use a standard warning template.
• The second is, well, out of my scope since I am not familiar with the Signpost. Leaderboard (talk) 15:39, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

(your last point can be answered better by @Acagastya:; he wrote that article) Leaderboard (talk) 15:52, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

┌─────────────────────────────────┘
That is how I, or anyone who called pizero in a video call saw him. Changing the image goes against our archival policy. If you want, you can ask pi's family to release a photo under a free license. But if you want my honest opinion -- it is completely unnecessary.
•–• 16:03, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

This is what just I saw when I visited his page on wiktionary:

Pi zero is currently blocked.

• This account is globally locked (globalauth log).

block logThis is what just I saw when I visited his page on wiktionary:

I inserted the template there but it is curretly redlinked (does not exist at wiktionary) Ottawahitech (talk) 16:13, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

DR

Hey Leaderboard. Can you please explain the rationale for this? I am curious why it is null? Are you using any scripts for tagging? Is it broken?
103.48.104.124 (talk) 19:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

That's your deletion script I was using. I recall it happens when the deletion reason is blank, but can't reproduce it now for some reason. Leaderboard (talk) 19:49, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Ah, if your prompt input is empty, the content selected will be null and that is what it will paste. Don't have it empty, or add a case to handle it. But again, what was your rationale?
103.48.104.124 (talk) 19:56, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

For this one? Actually I don't know, certainly does not look like the type of article I would usually tag for deletion. Leaderboard (talk) 19:57, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

I understand sometimes we end up tagging wrong article for deletion, or accidentally delete wrong page -- it is a bad experience when that happens -- but regarding this -- I had asked once on IRC and hours later, here. I feel that tagging might have chased off @EthanBiando: who might be trying to get started with the project. Please be very careful how you approach a newcomer's work vs tagging other articles for deletion. We do not want to be chasing people off by actions which can be interpreted as we don't welcome their contribution here.
•–• 04:07, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

@Acagastya: I think I figured out what happened. When you click the tag script, and then cancel it (for instance, if it was a mistake), instead of not doing anything, it simply tags with reason "null", as you can see. I think that's what could have happened - I clicked by mistake, and cancelled it, forgetting that the script still tags. Leaderboard (talk) 07:11, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Lorde article

Well: awfully sad that ran stale! Maybe a recent interview or commentary or notable chatter from some sources might freshen it up, possibly? Looked like a rock solid effort. --Bddpaux (talk) 17:29, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Bddpaux: You may be looking for someone else - I have never written an article on this site. Leaderboard (talk) 17:30, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Haha! Brain cramp! Disregard! --Bddpaux (talk) 17:37, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Mail - reply

Thanks for the e-mail. I do not have the technical know-how to make a filter count the number of occurrences of a single character. I just add parameters to already existing filters. If you know the required code to create such a filter, please e-mail me the exact code and I can create and test it. If you don't know the coding required, consider sending the same mail (you sent to me) to Chaetodipus. He has experience in creating filters from scratch. Cheers, SVTCobra 18:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@SVTCobra:, I do know how to code; I just need to find a way to test it. I can email you as appropriate. Leaderboard (talk) 18:45, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

OK, cool. I did see you are involved with filters over at Wikibooks. Cheers, SVTCobra 18:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Contributions?

hi, do you write any articles? Thanks. @Leaderboard BigKrow (talk) 09:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@BigKrow: You mean Wikinews articles? No. Leaderboard (talk) 09:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Yep, @Leaderboard BigKrow (talk) 09:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@BigKrow: No, I don't. Leaderboard (talk) 09:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

K, thanks. @Leaderboard BigKrow (talk) 09:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

You've certainly earned this......

Seems nearly comical at this point: but you have earned it -- and: these are somewhat whimsical as far as awards go.

		The Order of the Humble Pencil For completing 5 edits.
		Great work! Keep it up!--Bddpaux (talk) 19:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Re: global sysops requests

Hi @Leaderboard

Requests like this, firstly thank you so much, it was deletionworthy page.

Could you please advise me how does it work? There are several local sysops available. I am one of them. I thought global sysops was only for emergencies.

Thanks, Gryllida (talk) 09:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Gryllida:,

• First: the policy changed recently - historically global sysops could not operate on this wiki at all, while stewards would operate only on emergencies. See Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/archives/2024/June#h-Opt_in_global_sysops?-20240524165000 for the discussion on Wikinews where this policy was changed. The new policy is at Wikinews:GP which clearly state that global sysops and stewards can operate on this wiki (albeit with somewhat stricter conditions compared to the average wiki in theory).
• Secondly: there may be a few local sysops, but there was no one available to take care of the spam and vandalism for quite a while.
• Finally: I use the meta:TwinkleGlobal script as that allows me to easily flag a page to be deleted at meta:GSR (which you linked to above).

Leaderboard (talk) 10:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

At the top of the global sysops requests page it says it's for wikis "with no active administrators". It was the case at time of the now archived water cooler discussion. Are you comfortable with local sysop availability now? Gryllida (talk) 10:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Gryllida: that isn't entirely accurate unfortunately - it needs to be removed. And no, I'm not "comfortable with local sysop availability now" and just because you're there does not mean that I think there's enough admin availability. A steward like @EPIC: might be able to comment further - in fact he commented on Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts that the wiki really needs new admins and that it's the global sysops/stewards doing all the admin work. Leaderboard (talk) 10:26, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

I suspect that it may continue to be done by global sysops if they handle the spam within 5 seconds whereas local admins, at the best of their days, could do it in 5 minutes. How can this dilemma be resolved? There is probably 1 in 1000 sysops who has such lightning speed, such quality of work is of course useful for global sysop, but may not be achievable nor required locally after months of recruitment efforts. Correct me if I am wrong. Gryllida (talk) 10:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida: I don't get your point. "local admins, at the best of their days, could do it in 5 minutes" - when it's "at the best of their days" - that's not been the case on this wiki for years. If the admins were active the global sysops would indeed have nothing to do, and it's not a case of speed - they tend to be hesitant to act on wikis with many active admins. And we're at a stage where admins (who are inactive anyway) have to be begged not to give up their rights, which isn't good. Leaderboard (talk) 10:36, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I think you understood it as it was part of your reply, here are a few thoughts,

• I am here and a couple local sysops.
• I have nothing to do at times, a global sysop deletes it while I am in middle of reading the spam.
• Have you previously applied for sysop here?
• You mentioned above you are not writing articles. What do you mean by that? What is your main interest in Wikinews?
• Who refuses to give up their admin bit?
• In general I agree the wiki is a bit slow, spam deletions being slow correlates with slow action on updating of permissions. I have article publishing to sort out before I review the permissions requests pending.

Thanks, Gryllida (talk) 10:50, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida:,

• "I am here and a couple local sysops." who are almost pretty much inactive. You weren't active for months as well.
• "Have you previously applied for sysop here?" - yes I have, and I was refused because I didn't (and still don't) have reviewing/article-writing experience.
• "You mentioned above you are not writing articles" - indeed I don't write articles here. I'm just here mainly for anti-vandalism purposes, and occasionally taking part in community discussions.
• Just see some of the last permission removal requests (example: Wikinews:Flagged_revisions/Requests_for_permissions/Removal/William_S._Saturn). It's not about them "refusing" to give up rights, but more of the discussion surrounding it. In the average wiki, this is pretty much a formality - but here the discussion is surprisingly heated.

Plus, a couple of additional points:

• one benefit of GS/stewards is that they allow you to focus on things such as "article publishing"
• "I have nothing to do at times, a global sysop deletes it while I am in middle of reading the spam" - this is misleading. Just compare this wiki with the deletion logs of my homewiki (en.wikibooks) or en.wikivoyage - both are wikis that allow (and encourage) global sysops. On both wikis, it's the local admins that do most of the deletion work, while it's the reverse on en.wikinews. It's because both wikis have multiple active admins that take care of the project.

Leaderboard (talk) 11:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Previously before my absence I was confirtable checking and removing spam once a day in the evening. Now if I follow same thought, I get outraced. I am a bit worried in my best days I spent 30mins a day at most, not 24/7, and it was sufficient.

It is flaggedrevs request, not admin. I am aware of it. Going to see what to do about the one article first, the permission handling can be decided afterwards. Gryllida (talk) 11:11, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida: Wikinews:Requests_for_permissions/Administrator/Leaderboard was my unsuccessful admin request. And also: if there were multiple admins around, "checking and removing spam once a day" would be enough for you. Leaderboard (talk) 11:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Interesting.

• That's years ago
• Tagging spam articles is rather confusing, it breaks the edit summary which would otherwise say "and the only contributor was User:SpammerNick"
• What is the point of hanging around helping against spam, do you read the news published? Or copyedit other submissions? What makes this place interesting to you over wikihow, fandom, openstreetmap, etc
• I read only first paragraph so far, as it is late evening here, it mentioned site maintainance - this is good
• Would you be interested in training for reviewer? Do you find yourself good at copyediting texts elsewhere?

Thanks, Gryllida (talk) 11:27, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida: You're right that it breaks the "and the only contributor" part, but the context is otherwise clear. I may copyedit the odd submission or two, but otherwise I don't plan to work as a reviewer at this time - I focus on other areas (such as meta:Global reminder bot whose bot application is pending on Wikinews). However: I would like to become an admin for the sole purpose of reverting spam/vandalism if this is something you and the community is OK with. Leaderboard (talk) 12:22, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Greetings

Hi Leaderboard

I appreciate your work tagging pages for deletion and keeping things neat and tidy.

Does the bot have a page about it somewhere at Wikinews? Rights expiration happens here maybe once a year or something. It is not common. There are only 20+15 (reviewers + sysops) privileged users, and likely less as some users have both user rights.

I am looking for help with news writing:

• Please suggest me a link to something that happened today (from your news feed)
• I will write the news report for you, it will be very short just to get the main information and ask you questions if needed (as it may not be my main topic area)
• Repeat the same each two days for two weeks

Then in two weeks we can come back and think what to do next.

It is a 3-5 minutes each 2 days commitment. Are you interested? If so, please share today's interesting news that you noticed.

Regards, Gryllida (talk) 07:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida You mean meta:Global reminder bot? It does not have a page at Wikinews itself, but this bot indeed is expected to run rarely - it's just a required process I need to do for every wiki. Leaderboard (talk) 07:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Is there a request for the bot here at English Wikinews or is this not needed? Gryllida (talk) 07:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida Yes, there is a request for the bot. I don't need a bot flag, but I do need approval irrespective of how rarely it will run on this wiki (otherwise I need to disable it entirely on the wiki). Leaderboard (talk) 09:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Link to the request, please? Gryllida (talk) 12:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida Wikinews:Bots/Requests/Leaderbot. Leaderboard (talk) 12:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I have asked a question there. Gryllida (talk) 13:01, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

tz

Hi Leaderboard

Can you please help me by putting the utc times here in first paragraph

https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Qantas_Australian_airline_employees_strike_for_better_wages

thanks 🙂 Gryllida (talk) 09:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida what is the local time zone though? Leaderboard (talk) 09:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

AEDT i believe,let me know if you cannot find a confirmation in sources please 🙂 Gryllida (talk) 09:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida OK, but why are you asking me to do this? Sounds like something that you should be doing, and hence want to check if there's a technical reason that I am missing. Leaderboard (talk) 09:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Burned out this week so cannot do now, too much pain. Want to reduce reviewer's load, it will be reviewed by someone else as I am involved in editing. Gryllida (talk) 09:29, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

The time was deleted from article due to timezone confusion. I couldn't verify either. Anyway, inserting the UTC time is no longer needed here. Gryllida (talk) 10:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

p.s.

is there a template that does this timezone thing,e.g. templatename|timestamp|nameOfLocalTz produces 'at 13:45 this Monday local time (AEDT; 10:45 UTC)' or something similar?

could you please consider joining WN:IRC my nick is gry

thanks 🙂 Gryllida (talk) 09:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida You mean something like wikipedia:en:Template:Time? Yes it can be done for this wiki as well, but you need to import it. The problem however is the licensing - after all as per Wikinews:Copyright, you cannot copy text from Wikipedia into Wikinews as their licence conflicts with each other. I am not sure whether that applies to this as well. If you can import, this can be done manually, via Special:Import if that works from Wikipedia, or by requesting transwiki import. And apologies for not being there the previous day; I had other things to do. Leaderboard (talk) 10:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I have no idea about copyright, I will ask in Wikipedia about it. Thank you. Gryllida (talk) 10:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

deleting

there are, say, 34 articles in a category for speedy deletion. is there a way to display a list with tick boxes and tick them all and delete in one go, without manually opening each page and clicking "delete" selecting reason then clicking "delete" again Gryllida (talk) 09:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida I'm not sure - let me ask this on Discord and get back to you. Leaderboard (talk) 09:27, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida Someone recommended "JS Wiki Browser" - have you tried that? Leaderboard (talk) 09:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida: Add mw.loader.load( '//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:1234qwer1234qwer4/mass-tools.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); to your common.js. One of the tools is MassDelete, which allows you pasting multiple titles and deleting inputed pages. A09 (talk) 19:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

thanks i will check it out Gryllida (talk) 22:22, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

rc

is there rss feed for recent changes Gryllida (talk) 22:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida Yes. For more details, see wikipedia:Wikipedia:Syndication. Leaderboard (talk) 12:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

thanks this is great, now going to work out how to get my device to notify me of new entries. Thanks Gryllida (talk) 04:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

adminship

i invite you to apply for adminship, i think this could work out well Gryllida (talk) 04:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Sure, you can go ahead and nominate me in that case. Leaderboard (talk) 04:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

i think you can self nominate, easiest as i'm traveling and when i tried i ran into archived previous request with which i don't know what to do.

i'm happy to add vote for support, it'll be less fighting with the software involved.

you appear available and technically and otherwise competent for the role from my perspective.

regards, Gryllida (talk) 04:58, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations, you're now a sysop and your bot is a bot and a sysop also. I recommend publishing bot source code and list of tasks somewhere, perhaps on its user page. For assistance, query WN:AAA any time and someone can help you out. There is also live chat. Let me know if you require assistance. Have a great day. Gryllida (talk) 20:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida Hi, got it, but can you flag Leaderbot with the bot flag and not the pseudo-bot flag? While both work in this case, the pseudo-bot flag is intended for humans that temporarily need to make high-volume edits (which is why admins can flag it to themselves). Leaderboard (talk) 03:09, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Leaderbot (talk · contribs)

done Gryllida (talk) 03:40, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Congrats and thank you

Congratulations on admin privileges! The project has already benefited from the additional help. 👍 —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 14:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Printedition

Hey! Merry Christmas!

I noticed that in Category:Printedition there are some issue because the text at the category say "The following 200 files are in this category, out of 1,818 total.". But I think there are only 1,106 files.

Most of the files are also in Category:Print Edition (PDF) with 1,102 files.

It't not a big problem. It just bother me a bit that the numbers are incorrect. I do not know if touch.py can fix it or how to fix.

Another option is to move all the files to Commons and delete them locally. But its a bit much work just to fix :-D

If you have any ideas you are welcome to give it a try. MGA73 (talk) 19:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@MGA73 Purging the cache was enough to fix this. Leaderboard (talk) 03:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Great! --MGA73 (talk) 09:25, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps there is an easy fix for Special:UnusedFiles too? I just noticed that there are many sxw files there. They should all have be deled per Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts#Requesting_edits_to_protected_pages_and_deletion_of_outdated_files but seem they somehow escaped deletion.

There are also some unused weather maps. Do you think they are usable or could they be deleted too?

And Happy New Year! --MGA73 (talk) 17:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

@MGA73 Done - however, some of them do look like they have simply no licensing information (and hence, while the deletion was technically correct, they could be useful). As a result, let me know if you want some of them back. Leaderboard (talk) 04:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Generally all free files should be on Commons. And non-free files should only be kept if in use. So there should not be a reason to keep many unused files. --MGA73 (talk) 06:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

@MGA73 What about the Print Edition? They are free, but I'm not sure on where they belong. Leaderboard (talk) 06:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Yeah. There are a few on Commons but most are local. I have not moved them because untill very recent there were hundreds of sxw files and it was being discussed if they should be deleted or not. And you can ofcourse argue that this is Wikinews so therefore printed Wikinews shold stay here. --MGA73 (talk) 06:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Archiving

Hi. Congrats on your request(s). And thanks a lot for your work on the license upgrade-related mop tasks. I noticed you said you're working on the idea of archiving being done exclusively by bots. I think the complexity of archiving (or at least what it's supposed to entail) isn't well-noticed publicly, but it isn't just applying full-prot and adding {{archive}}. The archiver is also supposed to go over the article's content one last time, something obviously better left to humans. Honestly, it isn't a particularly time-consuming task if kept up with, nor is it a particularly urgent thing if there are a bunch of articles past due for archiving are neglected for a while. Heavy Water (talk) 06:05, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

@Heavy Water I'm OK either way - the initial run of the bot was specifically designed to archive articles that have been left untouched for over three weeks. Up to the community, in other words. But I do think it is not a good look for the community to see multiple unarchived articles for months. Leaderboard (talk) 06:33, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Deleting stale articles

Thank you. BigKrow (talk) 16:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Your deletions

Hi. You did a spate of deletions earlier today with the rationale of "abandoned/stale mainly". When you were applying, you said you'd only use the tools for "routine antivandalism purposes [...] can help in technical stuff or abuse filters". And when Michael asked if you'd be willing to perform other admin tasks such as archiving, you didn't indicate it was your plan to do that sort of stuff, only volunteering to code an archiving bot. So what, to you, does your mandate from the community extend to?

I obviously didn't object when you used admin tools for the license upgrade, or for a couple of other mass-deletions of old articles. I had to object after this action because I'm not sure you understand the process for this stuff. For instance, you deleted Honda Monkey 125 Price in India with the rationale of "abandoned/stale mainly". I had, rather generously to the author, left an {{advice}} template instead of tagging it for speedy deletion as not-news or spam because there could, potentially, be an article in there somewhere. Even if making the discretionary determination that admins have a right to make about that stuff is within your narrow mandate, it's not appropriate for an admin to cut-and-paste a rationale that doesn't even mention why that article should be deleted. More importantly, there's the example of Oliver, Edmonton to be renamed at start of 2025. Here you deleted the talk page with the same rationale, obviously intending to delete the article; I have no idea what the situation was for a lot of the articles you deleted since I often can't remember that and I obviously can't see their content. But this one has clearly never been put through the standard process for deleting old articles, which, as I hope you know, consists of placing {{abandoned}} on them when they are "incomplete" (i.e., we usually wait until they've gone stale — this probably isn't) and haven't been edited in at least four days. After the template has been on there for two days, the community, and particularly the author, is deemed to have been given fair warning and the article can be deleted. You can't delete an article just because it's stale. (FYI, you missed this talk page the other day and this one today. Heavy Water (talk) 20:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@Heavy Water I was under the impression that I was allowed to handle any kind of routine deletion process, including deleting old and stale articles. The main thing I did not want to do was article reviewing, and I continue to stay away from that area. If you think this should not be the case, I am willing to only delete spam and vandalism. My goal in the application (and even now) is to defer to community preference - this has not changed.

To answer your other question: the reason it is "cut-and-paste" is that I was using MassDelete, which simplifies the deletion process. I can see the issue with it in that it confuses editors that does not know why exactly the article was deleted, and can refrain from using it in the future. Do you want me to restore any of them? Leaderboard (talk) 02:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Also want to ping @BigKrow as the user that asked for the deletion. Leaderboard (talk) 02:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

FYI, I don't mind you helping with deletions of abandoned articles which went through the {{abandoned}} tag. Those need to be checked for date/time of last edit to the article and date/time of last edit to the article talk in case new developments may be available after the tag was placed. This is manual and time consuming effort and if you want to write or if you want me to write a script/gadget that assists -- e.g. by providing a table with a list of suspected abandoned articles, tick box for each of them, and date of last edit + date of last edit to talk + date of addition to Abandoned category, and then option to delete all that were ticked -- that'd probably help heaps. (As disclaimer: my personal preference is not consensus.) Gryllida (talk) 03:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gryllida So if you want, a script can be written that does exactly that - for each article to be deleted with the abandoned tag, check whether the last edit (and talk) was X days old, and if so, delete. Is this the approach you'd like me to take (manually or otherwise)? Leaderboard (talk) 04:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, perhaps semi automated so a human still needs to make a final decision, if that seems to make sense to you. Gryllida (talk) 05:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

OK got it. I'd like to see comments from others. Leaderboard (talk) 05:30, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Note: I have not read this discussion carefully, but -- Just please be aware that people often work on things slowly and gradually. When I am working on article(s) for submission, my personal process is quite pell mell and slap dash.😁 --Bddpaux (talk) 18:20, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Greetings

Hi, sorry for disturb but please considering on performing actions to 2605:ba00:a128:a7d:9860:8d4e:e3f6:bc8, keep creating nonsense pages, thanks. Aqurs1 (talk) 16:10, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

@Aqurs1 Done. Leaderboard (talk) 16:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)