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abuse filter mismathch for General spamEdit

I'm trying to edit my page, and it is saying "General Spam Warning". Don't know why this is happening? J-Man11 (talk) 02:58, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

You seem to be able to edit your page without a problem. --SVTCobra 03:19, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
There are, occasionally, weird problems with spam filters. Some years back, we had a problem that appeared to only affect certain articles; it turned out the filter had been wired to notice certain puerile obscenities as substrings, including "poo", and as a result it consistently caused problems on articles related to Liverpool. --Pi zero (talk) 03:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Multiple accountsEdit

There seems to be a contributor with multiple accounts. I don't want to call it sockpuppet abuse, but there are weird redirects and signatures which reflect other names. I would like the user to clarify what is going on.

Accounts involved:

Thanks, --SVTCobra 23:34, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi SVTCobra. Just to clarify. I don't use the account under my real name since 2015 for personal reasons. Since then I have used my alternate account, Küñall (which no longer exists since I have renamed to Cuatro Remos some months ago). I have not updated my signature here, though. There is absolutely no sockpuppet abuse. --Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 23:45, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
For the record, I have corrected my signature and restored my userpage as it looked back in 2014, to avoid confusion. --Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 23:46, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
@Cuatro Remos: I can appreciate your desire to deal with this in private, however, I felt it was important that other people see this. Even as we speak now, your signature is "Diego Grez-Cañete" but you are posting from User:Cuatro Remos. How do we know who you are? You could be trying to steal the credentials of a vetted reporter. I am not saying that you are, but it would be easy to do for anyone. Just look for an inactive accredited reporter, create some redirects and a custom signature, and viola!. Oh, and as a side-note "Küñall" is not a registered account, just a page and should be deleted. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:33, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
I understand your point and I don't blame you :-) However, I thought it would not be trouble to sign here under my real name since I am sure most of the oldies know who am I. --Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 00:37, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
Fwiw, I've been more-or-less following Diego's username/account shifts over the years, and I'm satisfied it's him. (Yes, I did double-check when I saw the RFP vote.) The last time Diego contributed, as best I recall (though he's also dropped by IRC occasionally), was to write an obit for Hugo Chavez. --Pi zero (talk) 00:41, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
You are correct Pi zero. That was my last article. Well, for the moment :-P I can't believe it's been over six years since I wrote that. But well, never took/had the time to come back actively. --Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 00:49, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
@Pi zero: if you are 100% sure, then the list of accredited reporters should be updated and not go through a redirect. I am going to delete User:Küñall and it's talk page in one hour unless someone objects here. --SVTCobra 00:55, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
SVTCobra, I wouldn't mind, but I don't see a benefit by deleting it. --Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 00:58, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
It's pretty much a rule. It sits there pretending to be a user page when it is a name that somebody could register.--SVTCobra 01:06, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
@SVTCobra: I don't immediately see why deleting the Küñall pages would be desirable. They were created when User:Küñall was renamed to User:Cuatro Remos; seems like they could be useful history for someone trying to sort out what went on. If they were considered actively undesirable, one might thing someone would have arranged that redirects not be created when users are renamed (though admittedly that's reasoning from an expectation of people making sensible decisions). --Pi zero (talk) 01:25, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
It may be of no doing by Diego and just a quirk of multiple renames/account changes and/or moves. The fact remains, "Küñall" is a name that is currently available to register. If some new person creates an account with that name, should they be saddled with this user page on Wikinews? I think not. However, I do see there are multiple pages within Wikinews which link to User:Küñall, so I shall not be so hasty in my deletion. --SVTCobra 01:37, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
Tried to create the account, in order to prevent impersonation, but I had no luck. "The username "Küñall" is too similar to the following usernames: Kunal l; Kunall; Cuatro_Remos; Please choose another username". I guess it won't be possible to create that account. --Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 01:47, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

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 I guess I should point out, the actual accreditation is associated with a fourth account: Diego Grez (t · c · b). Are there any more? --SVTCobra 01:51, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

In my mind, that one had gone without saying; it was his username during his main active period here. --Pi zero (talk) 02:03, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
@Pi zero: I must insist that this gets sorted out. All but one account seem to be still existing (as in not renamed). Furthermore, User:Cuatro Remos is displaying the credentials which belong to User:Diego Grez. If you are 100% certain, then update Wikinews:Credential verification. If not, User:Cuatro Remos will need to apply just like a new user. (P.S. I also think the other user pages need to say something like "Former account of Cuatro Remos" and not a straight-up redirect.) Cheers, --SVTCobra 20:51, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
SVTCobra, I am not sure what the issue here is. I have never tried to cause trouble here, and I believe people here can know for sure this is me and that was me, too. I don't even remember the passwords for all of these accounts, that's why I quit using the one with my real name. --Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 23:28, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
@Cuatro Remos: You aren't causing "trouble" but the issue is when we issue credentials and allow people to make original reports. This is a thing that is hard to earn and you seem to think "I can just close one account and open another and transfer the credentials." And the bit about "your real name" is ... well, let's call it horse hockey. The credentials template displays what you have told us is your real name. You are redirecting from accounts with "your real name" to your new account. Wow. Nobody will find Diego Grez now, lol. Nothing you are saying makes any sense. Well, of course, I am referring to your old reasons. Today, it seems that it is because you "forgot" the password for the old accounts. Frankly, this gets worse every time you contribute. --SVTCobra 23:55, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
To be honest, in these nine-years as an accredited reporter, I have never used the credentials and don't think I ever will. There is no point in keeping it. For sure, I can't thank hard enough those who trusted me back in 2010, but given that, after all those years some people have decided to get picky, I have no other option than to resign the "attribution". --Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 23:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
@Cuatro Remos: I don't see any need for you to resign anything. --Pi zero (talk) 00:05, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
I don't either. But we need to get our records straight and control which user pages display credentials. --SVTCobra 00:16, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Just to state this officially:
Therefore we do have formal confirmation by Diego Grez that Cuatro Remos is the same person who was accredited while their account name was Diego Grez. --Pi zero (talk) 00:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Are you then going to update Wikinews:Credential verification or is it too late? I never asked Cuatro Remos to be a part of this discussion. I know we are talking a period of ten years, but some the history you revealed shows even more renames. It borders on disruption in my opinion, but the point of all this is our list of accredited reporters. (who can vote is very secondary). If you, Pi zero, think this collection of account histories link it all together, then change Wikinews:Credential verification. It really is that simple. Put it under "Cuatro Remos". --SVTCobra 01:03, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
SVTCobra, you're coming across rather, well, harshly, and I don't really understand why. Diego is a good friend of many years, and there has never been any doubt about who they are. I have nothing against neatifying our tracking of things on the accreditation page, but I honestly thought, when you left your note here just a few hours ago, that I could take a day, or perhaps even two or three, to find a good moment to sort calmly and carefully through all the pieces of this situation and work out just what should go where. I didn't expect this situation to escalate rapidly over just a few hours. It seems the internet can make human interaction more difficult.

Atm I still mean to follow my original plan, taking my time within reason. --Pi zero (talk) 01:43, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

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 No, I don't mean to. But I thought we had an unspoken agreement that it would be sorted out when we last touched this subject three weeks ago. And I know, Cuatro is not running around in the world, going to movie premieres or anything with our "powerful" accreditation. However, three weeks ago, I thought you'd fix the discrepancy, especially since we are voting on someone else now. I am old, but maybe my time horizon of things I do next hasn't become as long as yours. I have always looked at accreditation as something special, and in order for it to be special, certain limits need to be enforced. I've never asked for it (nor will I oversight) because I do intend to remain anonymous as best possible. Anyway, I re-opened this with my feeling it was somewhat urgent. But as you saw, someone has notifications set for everything. And then I felt like I was being fed a load of bullshit, which it still tastes like. True, I don't overlap in activity with the user in question, and don't share the friendship that you do. And again, I am condensing years, but it just looks crazy with all these accounts. And then to reclaim them with redirects? I have never seen this on any project. If you change your name, your account is moved. If you lost your password, you might be lucky to post a message on the 'dead' account that you have a new name. But this web of redirects which was hard to untangle ... it didn't feel right. And why set it up if one is not participating in the project anymore? Anyway, if I had a pointed comment in your direction, it was because it could have easily been fixed weeks ago as far as I see. It's a simple edit. Why make a note to do it later when it could be done immediately? --SVTCobra 02:27, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

I've got a dreadful backlog of urgent things I'm earnestly trying to get to and am failing to get to; this one honestly just slipped out of my sphere of attention. I don't mind being reminded, although your reminder came to me at a moment when I was not at all in a position to act instantly. Nor did I think I needed to act instantly. When I said you're coming across harshly, though, I really meant you seem to be coming across harshly to Diego. I really try to make Wikinews a home-from-home that far-flung Wikinewsies can come back to and be welcomed; and no, I don't compromise standards for that. It should be possible to keep those things from conflicting.

It's seemed as if you thought, despite my vouching for him, that Diego was trying to pull of some sort of flim-flam. Nothing of the sort. Over the years Diego has not completely lost touch; he was welcome when he came back to write the obit for Chavez; and I verified each thing that happened to his accounts as it happened. Each step was simple and above-board at the time; despite the overall accumulation, there is no mystery here. He set up an alternate account, and used the most basic, standard technique to prove the two accounts were held by the same person: through the primary account, edit the user page of the alternate account acknowledging it as an alternate. I may have advised him at the time on how to do that, though it's been a long time so idk for sure. A bunch of Wikinewsies have set up alternate accounts and confirmed them that way. I have such an account myself, User:Pi one, that I almost never use. Later, each of his two accounts was renamed, using the standard procedure for renaming accounts. All very ordinary.

Re taking action on this particular case: the hard part here isn't acting, it's figuring out exactly what-all to do. Possibly what will be wanted will be to tweak the data on the accreditation page and replace the redirects with calls to {{doppelganger}}; but I want to be thinking very clearly when I look over the situation as a whole and make that decision. I'm sorry things kind of flared here in the meantime. --Pi zero (talk) 05:39, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

abuse filter mismathch for Prevention of talk page company spamEdit

Users to set specific actions to be taken when actions by users, such as edits, match certain criteria. A filter could be created to prevent anonymous users from adding external links, or to block a user who removes more than 1000 characters. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by QUBESMAGAZINE (talk • contribs) 01:51, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

I don't recall often seeing removal of more than 1000 characters at a time.

Adding external links is a necessary part of writing an article (for source citation), and I don't think we want to prevent anonymous users from writing articles even though we do very strongly encourage them to get an account. --Pi zero (talk) 01:58, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

IPEdit

@Pi zero, Mikemoral, SVTCobra: Hi, please block 70.168.226.150. 大诺史 (talk) 15:08, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Looks like SVTCobra got it. --Pi zero (talk) 17:18, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

LinkEdit

Link in wiki page about the Northern Snakehead fish that says “ Snakehead fish appear in large near Potomac River” lead me to empty page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2601:846:c201:4950:c536:7dd3:cd6b:6316 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Where was this link? --Pi zero (talk) 15:34, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

ip vandalised my user page.Edit

could someone stop that ip please ty. Baozon90 (talk) 22:07, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

@Baozon90: I gave them a temporary block, of the usual length for IP vandalism on Wikinews. --Pi zero (talk) 22:29, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Decrease protectionEdit

Hi. Can an admin please remove the 'cascading' protection from User talk:InfantGorilla/Archive 1? There are multiple templates transcluded there that should be editable. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:59, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Done. Any protection on those templates should be decided individually. --Pi zero (talk) 04:22, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Open request for adminshipEdit

Wikinews:Requests for permissions#acagastya (talk · contribs) — adminship has been open for over 5 months. Can a crat please close it? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 08:36, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Now over 7 months... this is getting a bit ridiculous. Unanimous support so far. Pinging crats: @Bawolff: @Blood Red Sandman: @Pi zero: @TUFKAAP: can someone please close Wikinews:Requests for permissions#acagastya (talk · contribs) — adminship? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:57, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
I was thinking of closing it, but Gryllida has now asked a question. I've been wondering quite how to handle that. --Pi zero (talk) 01:03, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
There should be a clear standard length for permissions requests... (COI admitted) The top of Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions says "If it has been over a week and no one has gotten back to you about your request for Reviewer access, feel free to drop a note at the talk page of an administrator.", but I opened my request three weeks ago, and the last edit to the page was almost a week ago. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:09, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Fixed lengths like that start to make sense for big projects. I'll take a look at yours soon; acagastya's seems worth dealing with first; I hope to get to that either tonight or tomorrow. --Pi zero (talk) 01:23, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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