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Wikinews interviews US National Archives Wikipedian in Residence

I consider this to be my most significant and meaningful contribution to Wikinews thus far, so I would definitely appreciate some feedback. :) Ragettho (talk) 16:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Scottish singer Jai McDowall wins fifth Britain's Got Talent series

My lengthiest article yet, this contains multiple pictures and covers the news comprehensively, I believe. At least two people (myself and Bluegoblin7) contributed to the article. I believe that this meets the featured article criteria. --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 10:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support as individual nominating the article. --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 10:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose: Sorry, it's well-written and everything, but I think featured articles should cover more... serious issues than Britain's Got Talent. I'm sure not everyone shares my opinion, and I have no objection to such news being published, but I just think FAs should cover more important stuff - wars, elections, political scandals, economic disasters, and the ilk. DENDODGE 12:58, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • weak oppose for the same reasons as Dendodge; some people consider this stuff news, I don't - no matter how well-written. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:03, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral Very well written, yes, but I don't think it's a topic we should be featuring. as per above. アンパロ Io ti odio! 02:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support FAC is a measure of quality, not subject; while the inclusion of, say, OR can boost quality, it is hard to think of the reverse - quality being decreased by subject. An unimportant subject, yes, but covered very well. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:59, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Agreeing with Dendodge's second comment: the OR notes are (alas) woefully inadequate. Claiming OR (broadcast reporting being a form of OR) is not a magic pass; the classic example of inadequate reporter's notes says "anything in the article that isn't from the sources, is part of the OR". That would leave no way for anyone, reviewer or otherwise, to tell what is actually due to the reporter's claimed observations versus what is an out-and-out writing mistake. --Pi zero (talk) 15:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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No consensus Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:10, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apple announces Mac OS X Lion, iOS 5, and iCloud

I believe this article (own work) meets the FA criteria. --theMONO 04:07, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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National Museum of Scotland reopens after three-year redevelopment

The Cabal has noted that this article is a excellent work. It is well written, good photos and it is clear that the writer has gone to some effort to OR this article. It is felt that this article highlights the best of wikinews as is what we should all aim for. I commend this article to the house Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 10:11, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment Each time I've gone over this, I've found one or two little points that need a tweak (eg incorrectly stating "live" instead of "life"). I'm noticing that post-stroke, I have a tendency to make a few more mistakes of this nature, or to miss a typo where not highlighted by a spellchecker. I know this has been reviewed, and looked over by several people, but would appreciate a "clean bill of grammatical, and spelling, health".
As an aside, the link to this from The Other Place seems to be generating around 100 hits per-day. My next big GLAM article project will be the reopening of the Scottish National Portrait Gallery in November. Through collaboration with the gallery, and Wikimedia UK, the challenge there will be to have the enWP article dramatically improved by opening day. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:38, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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A clear consensus seems to be present, and the rationale provided for the delisting appears to be strong. Therefore, it's my feeling that the community feels this article should be delisted. Computerjoe's talk 15:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Benoit mystery editor confesses: claims "terrible coincidence" (delist)

This article was promoted in 2008, but it doesn't seem to be up to scratch. It appears to me to be the equivalent of a press release, the formatting is screwed up, there's little to no supplementary information (if someone were to random article onto this, they wouldn't—I didn't—know what it was about), and IP addresses can be dynamic. It doesn't seem to be a very good example of our best content. Previous nomination here. — μchip08 17:32, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Frankly, this article is nowhere near FA standard. Its only redeeming feature is the OR, which in this case, consists of little more than being the organisation the editor happened to approach. And OR does not necessarily qualify an article for FA status.

The article has a few problems, which are:

  • It is short. Length is not a requirement for FA, but this isn't much over the 3-paragraph minimum, not including the massive quote, which was just pasted verbatim without any kind of analysis or explanation
  • Its style guide compliance is poor, though not terribly so
  • The title is somewhat sensationalist - "MYSTERY EDITOR CONFESSES!" sounds like something one would be more likely to read in the Sun than the Financial Times
  • The article is generally poorly written. It is effectively a list of facts, with no real structure
  • Referring to the matching IP addresses as "strong confirmation" is highly misleading. A strong confirmation would be, for example, forensic evidence; IPs can be dynamic, and the evidence is circumstantial at best

It just doesn't look like an FA to me, and, despite its apparent popularity at the time (popularity =/= quality), I sincerely doubt that it would pass FAC under current standards. DENDODGE 17:40, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Clear consensus to promote. Great article, Brian! Congratulations and keep up the good job! アンパロ Io ti odio! 00:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ACLU, EFF challenging US 'secret' court orders seeking Twitter data

This took over a week of persuading people to give feedback/interview responses; a fair deal of background research and, all-in-all, I am very pleased with the result. Four fairly important subjects (one of whom chose to remain anonymous) gave input to make this a genuine piece of original reporting.

I think the angle taken in covering a critical freedom of expression/freedom of the press type story is a good fit with what Wikinews should strive to do. On that basis, I'm submitting it as a potential FA. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:20, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Special report on Japanese tsunami emergency in Pichilemu, Chile

¿What do you think of this article? :) Diego Grez return fire 16:15, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support—this is exactly the kind of article we need to be writing to differentiate ourselves from the MSM, contains some nice OR, is of a decent length, and is certainly an example of Wikinews's best work. Δενδοδγε t\c 15:22, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Great article. Nice job on the pictures. --Ashershow1talk 17:13, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. We do need more articles similar to this. Good article! --[[::User:Nascar1996|Nascar1996]] ([[::User talk:Nascar1996|talk]] • [[::Special:Contributions/Nascar1996|contribs]]) 04:21, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Support as nominator and creator of the article (and main contributor) Diego Grez return fire 18:24, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, though I must state that paragraph 4 has minute language problems, the most obvious being 'due to', which should be changed to 'because of'. Excellent article and pictures otherwise; it reminds me of how lucky Hong Kong is! The only natural disaster we face here are disease and typhoons, and the strongest of typhoons always brush past Hong Kong at the last moment, leaving us unaffected. Anyways, great work! Kayau (talk · contribs) 15:56, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Great to have this local, on-the-ground reporting with our own pictures. Wikinews needs more articles like this; our worldwide contributor base is one of the unique things we have. --theMONO 01:47, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Good OR. Great pictures. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 01:32, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Promoted the wub "?!" 12:31, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

UK Parliament to vote on tuition fee rise on Thursday

I'm rather proud of this article: I think that it really brings together the sources, and shows the relationship between what was going on with the government and on the street. It has a great selection of pictures too (Protests! Politicians! Police!). —Tom Morris (talk) 21:06, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Some more input on this request would be great. the wub "?!" 00:24, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Closed as unsuccessful. the wub "?!" 22:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 BRIT Awards highlights

I wrote this article myself and I believe it is the longest article that I have ever created. I believe that it meets all of the criteria and I think that it is good enough to become a featured article...but what do you think? --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 18:37, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Successful. Diego Grez return fire 22:41, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Latest 'CableGate' disclosures hint at US diplomatic tactics in Spain and beyond

This was what I put together from a handful of the Wikileaks cables. It might be considered a little short FA-wise; but, I'm confident it is the most comprehensive English language coverage of these cables and their repercussions. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:41, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikinews investigates the reconstruction of Pichilemu, Chile after February earthquake

Another OR piece of mine. vote now!!!! Diego Grez return fire 16:27, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I count five Supports, three Opposes, and two Neutrals. Based on the neutrals leaning to a "let it through if tipped in favour of support", plus my own being a weak oppose, I'm inclined to promote this one? Can I have a second opinion without taking the Dr Jeykll potion? --Brian McNeil / talk 15:51, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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  • weak oppose. It's good, it's largely original, but MA catches perhaps the key point; it is a very good translation, not a written-in-English work with quotes translated. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • What Matthew and Brian said; there are some English issues here. One key point: when translating quotes, it's ok to perform minor fixes to the English usage provided it is true to the original comment. Doing this properly is a hallmark of a skilled translator, whereas simple transliteration (perfect word-for-word changing) can often lose meaning or clarity that was present in the previous tongue. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Successful Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:10, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Colegio Preciosa Sangre, Pichilemu, amidst other Chilean schools celebrate Student's Day

Self-nom. Has a great amount of OR, and it is IMO, one of my best works here on Wikinews. --Diego Grez return fire 19:30, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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US undergraduate commits suicide after 'outing' via webcast

Great synthesis piece, with promising original reporting inquiries. Particularly excellent use of English. The article is more 'magazine-style' depth than news brief, which I personally greatly appreciate. - Amgine | t 05:55, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment I'm certainly disinclined to enforce the 'must be archived' inflicted on my last FA. This is good work; that is what WN should strive for. Clear the pending edits, stabilise and archive early and will most likely support. If OR comes in post-0000 UTC, please put in new article and liberally lift from this one. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is really short compared to the vast majority of our FAs. Great though it is... is it really elevated much above our 'ordinary' content? Opening the door to stuff like this might, I feel, dilute FAs - while this is excellent coverage, FAs are meant to be the absolute best of the best. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 21:02, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support as primary author, so no surprise there. But my motivation in writing it was to raise awareness, and it does seem to be of interest, so yes, it'd be nice to see it featured. It might help get others to improve it too, so it's all good. Chzz (talk) 06:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral Did you notice "Note: Do not nominate articles that have not yet been archived."? The article is good, but it isn't archived yet. Diego Grez return fire 18:08, 1 October 2010 (UTC) Support Very good article, very informative. --Diego Grez return fire 19:03, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Given that this was a big story during a period when a number of young gay men were committing suicide, and that the article is a good example of collaboration, I'm opposing rather reluctantly per WIAFA#3, mainly MOS-related stuff. I've been told that further edits cannot be made at this point because it's archived. I'm happy to elaborate on request though, or if I've been misinformed. Best, Matthewedwards (talk) 05:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For WN:SG violations, we may be able to tweak some of it through the archive protection. The substance must remain unchanged, but 'non-content' edits are acceptable. I must remember to make good on a plan to write some guidance on what is and isn't non-content. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:32, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, well here are some comments: User:Matthewedwards/FA#US undergraduate commits suicide after 'outing' via webcast. Matthewedwards (talk) 18:58, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
...but it can't be fixed now? So, this is all rather a waste of time, if improving the article is not permitted. I'd quite happily fix all the things mentioned on that page, but as I'm not allowed to do so, meh. Chzz (talk) 23:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone else who saw their first major effort on a project seriously discussed for FA might consider that quite an achievement, instead of defeatism. Oh well. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:50, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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BP report into Gulf of Mexico disaster lays blame on other contractors

A great synthesis piece by one of our newest contributors. My only concern is the quote from AP is a bit long, but much of it is actually AP quoting others, quotes that could find good use in the article - therefore, the amount of text that could have been rewritten is fairly small and, I think, acceptable. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:23, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Passed Computerjoe's talk 22:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Teräsbetoni frontman J. Ahola on representing Finland at Eurovision 2008 & more

I came accross this old one of mine from some time back. Whilst it could theoretically have used more third-party backup for the bacground, it has of course all been verified by both the (agent? press person? I forget who I went through) and the interviewee. Lots of detail here; not the most well-known entertainer, but, I believe, a job well done. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:23, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Teachers at Australian school shocked at no warning over redundancies, can apply before 'externals'

I'm actually suprised that I got as much into this article as I did (I needed some proding to put the unio opinion in though). Length's good. It's got OR. Extensive use of Non-news sources. --RockerballAustralia c 03:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I am delighted it has such eminent supporting votes, and that it contains so much information from a variety of non-news sources. Yet I also feel it is an example of a story that could have been told even better, had Wikinewsies collaborated more, and got the article through review more quickly, or alternatively taken the time to cut it up and rewrite it from scratch when such an important new development (Friday's union statement) came in.
  • In particular, several of the comments are responses to either school internal emails from the previous Friday, or the principal's statement on the Monday. I get the impression that the timeline cannot be clearly grasped by reading the article, and therefore it feels jumbled to me. However, I read (and copy-edited if I recall correctly) so many earlier versions of the article as I followed its development, that my mind is tainted when I read the final version: I would be interested to hear if others also find the presentation somewhat unclear.
  • We, of course, have to bear in mind that as the issue developed many things were far more unclear, and the information coming from the principal and insiders was almost impossible to make sense of (until Friday's union statement): the obvious reading being that 21 or 22 people had actually been sacked! An article can't bring clarity when none exists in real life.
  • --InfantGorilla (talk) 20:05, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Is it 22 or 21? First two paragraphs say 22, a couple, 21, before going back to 22. Also, first paragraph is missing a word -- it doesn't say what the 22 are! There's some switching between the comparative figures of "22", "21" and "twenty-two", "seventeen" and "eight". Matthewedwards (talk) 05:24, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Strike ballot to go ahead despite British Telecom's belated new pay offer

I am quite pleased with myself over this one. Regrettably, it is a little short. But, compare it with the rest of the coverage (GNews as-seen from the UK). It includes original reporting, and took quite some effort to bring out the report in a timely fashion.
One or two comments were made in relation to NPOV over this. However, I did request Brian (talk · contribs) check this over. BT, quite simply, refused to give anything other than 'corporate drone' output. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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British ISPs restrict access to Wikipedia amid child pornography allegations

I was surprised to look back and see this hadn't been previously got nominated. I think it is probably the best coverage there was on the events. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:11, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Result: Successful --RockerballAustralia c 05:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Closed as unsuccessful. —Mikemoral♪♫ 05:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikinews interviews Dr. Phil Klotzbach on upcoming hurricane season

Was nominated before, but removed due to the rule that only archived articles may be nominated. I still think it's good, so I'm renominating it. –Juliancolton | Talk 14:37, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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