User talk:Brian McNeil/Archive 08

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Archive 01 — January 9, 2006 | Archive 02 — April 6, 2006 | Archive 03 — June 4, 2006 | Archive 04 — September 29, 2006 | Archive 05 — December 9, 2006 | Archive 06 — March 24, 2007 | Archive07 — May 30, 2007 | Archive 08 — November 4, 2007 | Archive 08 — November 4, 2007 | Archive 09 — March 25, 2008

Re: Sean and the G8

What's wrong with just giving the darn press pass? MR 15:27, 28 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

As far as I'm concerned nothing. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:01, 28 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hey, I was thinking, as I need the letter till tommorow the latest, and it seems unlikely that Eloquence or any other board member is going to look by, that you would probably have to sign it( if you were willing to :D). And as you said, a condition for that is that as many people as possible should have seen and agreed to the letter. So I think I´m going to make it a temporary subpage of Accreditation Requests, and link to it from Watercooler/proposals and assistance, (and possibly on admin alert?) to increase visibility in these last 30 hours. Regards Sean Heron 09:00, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Wow, brilliant, thanks *big grin*. I would prefer having the original if I needed it (but that wouldn´t be until a weeks time, and to be honest I think its more likely my request is denied.) I could print it if is too much hassle for you though, of course. I´ll check out how long the post takes from belgium to germany in a sec... Sean Heron 09:22, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
I have to go to work now, I´ll get back to you this evening. I´m sorry date and place only came to me just now, but I thought after all the trouble you´ve gone to I can´t ask you to reprint, sign, photograph and upload again! I´ve remembered now though, that date and place are more usual for contracts, so I don´t think its needed. I´d say we stick to the version you sent me, and see if any changes are made till this evening. If changes have been made, and you have the time, you might redo it then, otherwise I´m still pleased as hell with what you sent me :D. (Oh and I´ll send my adress later, thanks). Sean Heron 09:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
If the wording changes, or you do want a section that says Sean can be contacted by post at xxx and by email at xxx or by phone on xxx, just give me a shout. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
I´ll try for IRC. Sean Heron 20:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

WN:AR#Gary Kirk

I have a letter from UCAS in the online system I could probably save as a PDF and email you, or if you insist I have a hard-copy letter listing all my choices and showing I've accepted my offer - I will try to email the online letter today. Thanks Gary Kirk 10:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

PDF would be great. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:04, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
For the contact information bit: is that displayed on the thing Wikinews generates if successful, or is it just shown on WN:CV? Gary Kirk 14:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
You decide what contact information to share on the site. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Okay, thanks. Gary Kirk 15:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thank you

Michael Nutter wins Philadelphia, USA mayoral primary looks much better. I'll use it as a reference for how to publish articles. --Evrik 15:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Breaking news

Updates are coming in now on south Thailand story. I will likely be moving it under another headline, something like 21 dead in south Thailand attacks. Thanks for your help! Wisekwai 16:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the star! It's nice to be appreciated. Wisekwai 06:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


You passed unanimously with 17 votes, the vote has been archived here. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 17:49, 2 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for the suggestion. I'll do a bit more digging. I might be able to come across something in the Khmer language press, though I don't know how to read Khmer. Wisekwai 20:47, 2 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks again for the encouragement. I was able to locate a translation of a Khmer daily - a site that will come in handy for future stories. Wisekwai 21:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

weather maps

Perhaps you should get an alternate account with a bot flag to upload those images? Bawolff 21:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

When it is uploaded by a bot, I'll put it on my bot account and request a flag. For the moment I'm doing the uploads manually. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

"illiberal democracy"

Thought you might get a read out of this blog post by Fareed Zakaria at Newsweek. -Edbrown05

Thanks, that was worth reading. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
"illiberal democracy" That's something new as a phrase, I'm not sure what it means. If it means anything, the legacy starts with the war in Iraq. I'm presently enamored by it. -Edbrown05 08:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
It is a nice turn of phrase, it captures the moment nicely. Freedom is trumpeted while wars are started and so. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Maps on weather portal

Until Wikinews Weather moves in a different direction, I have added the weather maps to Portal:Weather. I think they look quite nice there. It seemed a shame that they were being updated hourly and not used anywhere. Feel free to revert if I have overstepped my bounds or if it is a bad idea. --SVTCobra 21:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Current updates are a best-effort. I'll get the 23:00 UTC ones and that'll be the lot for tonight. If you're able to help out I can share my definition file. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
The fact that I don't know what you mean by "definition file" leads me to believe that it may be beyond my technical abilities. The regularity with which I saw the updates had led me to believe you had programmed it. However, if you think it is something I can do, then by all means share. I might need a tutorial, though. --SVTCobra 22:58, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
I'll get the reports done and point you in the right direction. Start by going to windows update and making sure you have the .NET framework. It is an optional download. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
WeatherChecker is here.
eh, "Houston we have a problem." I am running Windows 98. --SVTCobra 23:08, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Okay, you need to bang the rocks together harder to communicate over longer distances. :-P Seriously? 98? That's 9 years old, but I last saw it 3 months ago on a virus-laden machine I was replacing for a client. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
'fraid so. I have a new machine in a box, but it has been there for months now. Don't ask why or how. It just is. In fact I have been toying with the idea of giving the one in the box away, so I can buy a newer one. The only thing holding me back is the fear that it too might sit on the floor in a box. Perhaps if I quit Wikinews, I'd find the time to take care of things like this. --SVTCobra 23:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Careful here, if the one in the box is XP and you get a new one with Vista, you'll want to put it back in the box. The biggest pain is always doing stuff like migrating your files and email. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
The 'old' one in the box is XP. I knew Vista wasn't worth upgrading to, but it is bad enough to avoid altogether? Is it worse than Me (Millenium), because I know people who did a reverse upgrade from Me? Yes, keeping my e-mails has been a concern, not as far as how but as far as hassle. Anyway, we should probably end this thread, it's gotta be past your bedtime. --SVTCobra 23:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Back to original topic, the weather portal was more or less originally made to show off the maps, and then they stopped getting updated. see (mostly link broken) Bawolff 23:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
The as of 18:00 UTC files you just uploaded seem to be the 15:00 UTC files. Did something go wrong? --SVTCobra 18:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Do a hard refresh (shift-ctrl-R), I just checked and they're 18:00 UTC on the maps. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

what is a good title? 07:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


Talk:Post-Kyoto_agreement_is_subject_of_G8_debate#Balancing. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

By the way, you should check this: . I hope you don't mind me mentioning you in the situation, otherwise I'll leave your name out. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I've seen that already. :-) I don't mind being mentioned... I'll just blame you when the board comes after me for using the wikinews logo on the letter I sent to Sean. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


Thanks Brian. I caught most of the other ones like that, big brother wikinews has its benefits :P Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 08:01, 9 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Weather maps

Could you upload those maps on Commons? When you're uploading them in English Wikinews, we - on Polish Wikinews - cannot use them. Hołek ҉ 09:29, 9 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Watcher map to Commons

Hi, I saw that you upload Watcher maps to Wikinews. Polish Wikinews are interesting to use it too, so can you upload it to Commons? Krzysiu Jarzyna 14:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

If they'll keep them I will, but we need something to automate the upload and get other regions working. Once the project is more stabilised we'll approach commons and see if they'll take them. Last time we were running weather they got stroppy about us uploading the images. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Poland have the same time zone than Belgium... and rest UE, so i do not see any troubles. But if someone from Polsih Wikinews have some time, naturally he will upload the maps. Krzysiu Jarzyna 12:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Accrediation request

Thanks for your reply. However, I'd appreciate it further if anybody can help me get through the process of filling up the accrediation application. I'm not really sure if I have to copy and paste it somewhere because I've got no idea on where to fill up the said application form. Alsojerat117 15:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)Alsojerat117Alsojerat117 15:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I think you'll find were you to try for accreditation today you'd get a no vote from most contributors. I suggest you build a reputation first by contributing to the wiki. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


Hi Brian. Thanks for your help earlier with the vandalism. I didn't know you could block a range of IPs. I was trying to plug the holes one at a time! Cheers, Jcart1534 17:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


I need a bit more time here, I feel, before taking on any admin responsibilities. But thanks for the thought. Wisekwai 15:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I'll maybe ask you again in a couple of months. Personally I think you're doing pretty well as a contributor and I'd trust your judgement on admin issues. I suspect you'd defer to others until you got the hang of the buttons but I think you'd do well with them. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:19, 15 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes, thanks. I think a couple more months of practice, and to get a better feel for the character of the site, are needed. Take care! Wisekwai 20:32, 15 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

New cats?

At what point is it generally acceptable here to create a category for a person. I am thinking, of course, about General Vang Pao. Having a cat for him will make it easier to track those stories and create an interwiki bug for him. Wisekwai 12:16, 23 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Two or three articles is enough - especially as there's likely to be more news on this. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:24, 23 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Okay, I made a cat for Vang Pao, though I wasn't sure what subcategory to put him under. He's just under "people" right now. There isn't a category for military people that I could see. He could fit under politicians, I suppose. What do you think? A couple more folks need cats as well: Hun Sen and Aung San Suu Kyi, which I could eventually get around to at some point. Wisekwai 08:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
  • People also go in country categories. Politician - if you consider him politically active - is probably the best other category. Is there a picture to go on the cat page? (haven't looked I'm kinda busy just now). --Brian McNeil / talk 08:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Board question

Regarding your question to Kate, it's unlikely she has a position on the inner-workings on Wikinews, as her goal is to shut it down, with all the other non-Wikipedia projects. -- Zanimum 20:10, 23 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I am aware of that, I put the same question on all candidates pages. In Kate's case I suspect is giving her enough rope... --Brian McNeil / talk 20:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hello Brian.

My name is Hyrax named after the animal I would like if you could edit my articles? asap? --Hyrax 23:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Thank You Hyrax.Reply


Please see Wikinews:Bots#Request_for_ArchiveBot. I have changed the proposal for ArchiveBot, detailed under the Important Note section. Please revote under that section if you still approve of this bot. --Skenmy(tcwi) 11:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

AWB task?

I don't have access to AWB on this computer, could you proofread my work at the Wikinews:Wikinews Bulletin and post it to the users on the spamlist? If you're too busy, maybe you could ask one of the other AWB users, I've gotta go sleep now, and study tomorrow and the day after.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 02:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, am busy doing a data conversion routine (sucks). --Brian McNeil / talk 09:00, 26 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Nunnally vs DC et al

Thank you for your questions and assistance. No there are no other "on line" sources for this story. Hundreds of documents exist including affidavits, the EEOC complaint, witness statements, etc. Unfortunately, the DC Superior Court search engine requires payment per each document viewed and you must have a pre-existing account. It is not as simple as the US Federal Court system. The story is original and there are no copyright issues.

How do you suggest that I go about providing verification? I have copies of the court documents. Create a website with the documents scanned in????

I am a DC Cop and this is but one of hundreds that occur within the Department -- member on member. As one might imagine, if this is how we treat one another, the public is no different. I know Officer Squires and have personal/professional knowledge of his case. After reading the WIKINEWS report on his case, I was inspired to write this. I would like to write about the others. I am concerned about the source issue. While I can obtain the documents as well as interview the parties involved, I do not know how to provide that information. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

User Confuseddccop


Hi Brian, I'm on IRC now if you want to chat about my comments regarding DragonFire1024. Adambro 17:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Ehud Olmert

Hi Brian, it sounds like you are pretty busy these days. I'll understand if it takes time for you to get back to me on this. I remember that you worked on categories for individual people. I have created Category:Ehud Olmert. I also did a search and added that category to some stories manually (to populate the cat page at least a little). What I wanted to ask was, did you use a bot to go back and add cats to stories in the archive? If so, is it too much trouble to run that same bot for Ehud? And if you are too busy, do you know of anyone else who can run that bot? Cheers, don't work too hard. --SVTCobra 00:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I used WN:AWB to populate the people categories I did. It has an option to do a Google search of the site - so you check for the name, exclude all but the main namespace, and set it up to auto-add the category. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:11, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
One of these days . . . I'll hook up that new computer. --SVTCobra 14:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Andevere's block

Expires in 6 minuites. Keep an eye on the RC :) Thunderhead 06:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Import GWB photo?

Hi, That photo you used is very very old. It barely looks like him! I changed it to a newer one. Can we import a more recent 'official' photo from Wiki Commons? Emperor NortonXXIII 08:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

I have already explained this on your talk page :) --Skenmy(tcwi) 08:19, 1 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Common Nation

I am the Editor in Chief of Common Nation. Common Nation is updated with the lastest national and political news as well as family, social, and health coverage. Let me know what you think! Asher Heimermann|Talk 22:56, 1 July 2007 (UTC)Reply


I can help with the design thing, if needed Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 09:42, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

I would be careful with the idea, Wikimedia still holds the brand name "Wikinews"... --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:23, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
I told the comm. committee I'd got the domain after we invaded their IRC meeting and they hummed-and-hawed about giving us addresses. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:28, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
is there any chance of having a wikinewspics or emailus@wikinewsie address for user pics and feedback?? Cheers --MarkTalk 20:32, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
Sounds like a good idea, but not tonight. It is late and I want my brain functional. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
k cheers --MarkTalk 21:07, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
Brianmc, I'm happy that you got a domain name. I have worked with GoDaddy services before. I will be more then happy to work on some webpages and stuff like that. I don't charge at call. I do most of my work free to personal and non-profit groups. Please e-mail me at so we can talk a little more. Asher Heimermann|Talk 21:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

I've sent that e-mail and thanks for pointing out that my darn email on the accreditation list bounces! - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 23:24, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

The main page has a rather obvious typo: "Welcome to" . The page title says: . --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

BrianNZ is responsible for the typos. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
That was a test, to see if anyone noticed :P Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 02:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
yup had notice the scoop email. cheers anyway for the notice --MarkTalk to me!! 20:51, 9 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

new Wikinewsie email

I noticed here at WN your comment that you bought the domain. I didn't really know what it meant until I recieved your email which I happened to catch in my inbox junk filter (my inbox filter setting are set very high) just yesterday. I am very happy about this email, thank you. I will be updating my user page to include it, along with accreditation information. I also will send feedback to you on the email account as I begin to use it. That will happen after an OR story I am working on is completed.

P.S. I thought your "but news ceases to be news" statement was both brilliant and insightful. I do actively manage that section of my user page, but don't really go looking for something to add there. That there is very little in that section speaks to how highly I regarded your statement.

Best regards, Edbrown05 07:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Several weather map suggestions

Some suggestions about your weather maps:

  • The background layer should probably be a political rather than physical map. Then readers could more easily locate their own cities in relation to those for which data is given.
  • It would be useful if atmospheric pressure was given along with temperature.
  • Why are no Ontario stations included?

Seahen 04:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm kinda-stuck with what we've got. I don't have the source to the WeatherChecker application so it would be impossible for me to change the maps. Name me some places in Ontario though and I'll look for stations to include. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)Reply lists Ontario weather stations. I live in Toronto and attend university in Oshawa, so I'd be partial to those cities. Seahen 20:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
I no longer manage the weather, that is now fully automated and done by Adambro. It is a long way from doing continents which is likely what would be required to go to the detail level you'd like. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Tour de France:The Race Begins in Earnest

Thanks for the welcome and advice.KTo288 20:48, 8 July 2007 (UTC)Reply


How are you and thank you for editing my page! --ScotishNews 17:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Brian McNeil

v6Engine requests development on Osama bin Laden news. --V6engine 15:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

re: cricket portal

Hi, thanks for the message. One of the reasons I was trying it displayed by Test side was that few of the existing articles have continent categories so most weren't showing up in the portal, and most coverage seems to be of the Test teams. I could try and add appropriate continent categories to existing pages, or add a section on the portal for non-Test teams.

Is there a way to use a DynamicPageList to fetch articles in different categories e.g. fetching those in Category:Scotland and Category:Ireland but not just fetching articles in both categories? Pilchard 19:34, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thank you

Thank you for the welcome message you left on my talk page. I read the link to the Hippocratic Oath and I don't see where what I am saying is relevant there. Doctors perform circumsisions on newborns and it is considered mainstream. Why can't this be mainstream and done along with the circumsision, it prevents unwanted births, teenage births and would eliminate the need for abortions (another hippocratic oath, which doctors agreed to not allow). This would greatly help our society would improve the quality of life for countless individuals. I don't think that compensation would be neccessary if it can't be reversed then these individuals should adopt. They would eventually perfect the procedure and this would become a rarity. If this is the only pitfall of the plan I think the hypothetical impact of the plan outweighs this greatly--Dustin Saturn 20:53, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

For the better of society I would let the government decide that. I feel if we first study it, experiment with it, and perfect it, the percentages would probably be significantly lower than 1 in 25.

Adoptions came come from other countries and I believe this would put a greater emphasis on family, the family will raise their children to have their own children in the same family environment and eventually vasectomies would no longer be neccessary at birth. No longer would people suffer through STDs, abortions, nor the pain of having to take care of a child they cannot support. I see this as the only solution to the social ills of our country, but do the candidate talk about this? No, because they don't have a plan and we cannot continue on the path we are going.--Dustin Saturn 21:30, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Religious right doen't give them the right to allow people to suffer and die because of a religion. We are fighting this in the middle east right now and it shouldn't be tolerated. They call themselves Pro-Life but they don't look at the facts that they are destroying the quality of life and this is much worse. They must understand that to end repression they must make sacrifices for the good of all society.--Dustin Saturn 21:35, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
People can't keep going to the doctor every 3 months. It won't work because they will not go and it will be too costly, Whose going to pay for this? The Taxpayers?--Dustin Saturn 21:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
I give up, I think your Eugenics program question won't make the cut. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
If the first part was removed about vasectomies would it be acceptable?--Dustin Saturn 22:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
If you want to edit the question, go ahead - just update the signature. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:08, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
I think I'll leave it for the third party candidates, I'd like to get their input and it wouldn't affect them politically since they have no chance of winning.--Dustin Saturn 22:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Wikinews:Story preparation/Interview with Robert Cailliau (re: my question)

That's fine. I'm more used to editing Wikipedia than contributing to Wikinews, so I don't really know the M.O. or what you were looking for — I just felt I should contribute something, as a message was posted at the Computer Science WikiProject talk page and I'm a member of that project. Thanks for the welcome, although I don't know if I'll stay — I'm not fast enough for journalism, methinks. ;-) 13:01, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hi Brian. Have you abandoned this story development? If so, should it be deleted? --SVTCobra 02:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

The guy just stopped emailing me, so yep - delete. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)Reply


Please send an email to cbass (AT) wikimedia (DOT) org and confirm your identity to recieve checkuser and oversight privelages. Then, request the privelages on Meta. Thunderhead - (talk) 04:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hold on a sec thunderhead, just been elected to the arbcom, does not qualify for appointment to those tools. There needs to be a 'election' of sorts, see here and here on how it has been done in the past. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 04:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
I already confirmed my identity to get OTRS access. I'm not sure we need additional CheckUser and Oversight users. Brian, do you get any requirement to use these tools that would be helped having someone in my timezone able to do it? --Brian McNeil / talk 10:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
There is not a lot of checkuser requests, however, it would be handy to have a checkuser/oversight in your timezone, more of a 'just in case' measure. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
I was under the impression that ArbCom members got checkuser and oversight immediatly, excuse me. Thunderhead - (talk) 16:24, 4 August 2007 (UTC)Reply



Would you mind explaining what you need help with? Thunderhead - (talk) 16:23, 4 August 2007 (UTC)Reply


The nice thing about original reporting is that you have almost all the time in the world. Then again, that statement has its limits. Funny thing about country music I heard on the radio today, musian have their whole life to record their first "hit" or album, then just 6-months to folow it up with another "hit" or album. -Edbrown05 10:03, 6 August 2007 (UTC)Reply email

I emailed you... Gary Kirk 15:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC)Reply


Excellent interview, Brian. Thunderhead - (talk) 05:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

I agree. Great job...great interview. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 06:16, 10 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
in agreement, well done Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 06:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Wikiversity School of Journalism Progressing Slowly But Surely

The Wikiversity School of Journalism is progressing slowly but surely, although this Participant has not had much time for either Wikinews or The School of Journalism.

If you are ready to Participate in The School of Journalism, just be bold, jump right in and do so. Your Wikinews experience should serve you well at The School of Journalism.

Best regards,

(s) Dennis L. Kent (talk), Date: 2007-08-10 (August 10, 2007) Time: 0935 UTC

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors

Issue VI - August 12, 2007
Administrators and Accredidations

This week, no users recieved admin status from the community. There are no ongoing RFAs or RFBs.

Featured Articles and Images
Exclusive Interview with Tony Benn

This week, Wikinews editor Brianmc got an interview with British politican, Tony Benn. Benn, 82, was also formerly the Secretary for Energy under UK PM James Callahan and Harold Wilson. The interview, which is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution License 2.5, can be found here. There is also an audio interview available at this image page in .OGG format.

Blog Activity

This week, several new articles appeared on the Wikinews Reports blog: "Home video catches alleged UFOs in Haiti", "Encyclopædia Britannica reaches Wikipedia's main page", and two articles under the heading "Wikinews reports from Wikimania 2007".

About the Wikinews Bulletin

The Wikinews Bulletin is a free internal newsletter for members of the Wikinews community. The newsletter is "staffed" by several editors, who produce the fortnightly publication. The publication has produced six issues. To unsubscribe, click here, and remove your name. To subscribe, click here, and add a direct link to your talk page.

From the Editors

Welcome to the latest edition of the Wikinews Bulletin! This week, you may have noticed a slight change in the design. This was because I felt that as a different project, Wikinews should not copy the Wikipedia Signpost. If you disagree, be bold and make your opinion known on the talk page.
Thunderhead - (talk) 00:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

IRC Discussion
  • This fortnight, not much happened on IRC. There was a debate among DragonFire1024 and Wikimedia Foundaton intern Mike H., but that was about it.
Wikimedia News (From Meta)
  • The Polish Wikipedia on DVD has finally been released and is available for purchase in shops in Poland as well as online. The release contains 239 000 articles, 59 000 images and the dedicated Java software WikiMiner. The DVD costs 39 PLN (~ 10 EUR, $14). Soon the 8 GB image of the DVD will be available for download as well.


  Thanks for delivering the bulletin for me :) Thunderhead - (talk) 09:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Power Grid Article from Disinformation Today Blog

The article wasn't lifted at all. I am the owner and editor of the blog as has been well established and documented on the article's talk page. I also posted on my blog full permission for Wikinews to carry this story. All of the copyright issues have been resolved as per earlier instructions from admin.

Re: Tony Benn interview

Sounds like a good idea, I like the name change. It seems publishable with the excpetion of some of the transcription. I think it would be best to complete the transcription before publishing the article, however, so readers will have a point of reference. Thunderhead - (talk) 13:05, 12 August 2007 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for the advice, Monsieur Brian, don't worry, I'll try my best to stay out of trouble here... God Bless and have a nice wiki day... Blakegripling ph 12:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Re: Nokia BL-5C

OK, Brian, to answer your battery question, here's a list of models that use the BL-5C battery:

Nokia 1100, Nokia 1100c, Nokia 1101, Nokia 1108, Nokia 1110, Nokia 1112, Nokia 1255, Nokia 1315, Nokia 1600, Nokia 2112, Nokia 2118, Nokia 2255, Nokia 2272, Nokia 2275, Nokia 2300, Nokia 2300c, Nokia 2310, Nokia 2355, Nokia 2600, Nokia 2610, Nokia 2610b, Nokia 2626, Nokia 3100, Nokia 3105, Nokia 3120, Nokia 3125, Nokia 6030, Nokia 6085, Nokia 6086, Nokia 6108, Nokia 6175i, Nokia 6178i, Nokia 6230, Nokia 6230i, Nokia 6270, Nokia 6600, Nokia 6620, Nokia 6630, Nokia 6631, Nokia 6670, Nokia 6680, Nokia 6681, Nokia 6682, Nokia 6820, Nokia 6822, Nokia 7610, Nokia N70, Nokia N71, Nokia N72, Nokia N91, Nokia E50, Nokia E60

Contrary to what Nokia stated that there weren't any incidents regarding this fiasco, there was one reported case of battery ownage involving the BL-5C; a Filipina university professor woke up at about 1 am after hearing a loud bang, only to find out that her N91 phone ended up wasted after an hour or so of regular charging.


please see Talk:Settlers_steal_Palestinian_water_in_the_West_Bank --TheFEARgod 15:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hash raid 030

You missed User:Hash raid 030 ;-) Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:36, 19 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Bah, I suppose since I just came up with a project I can undertake on WN without breaking my theoretical "hunger strike on article-creation until we allow authors to choose to make their articles PD", I might as well be useful and all. I wrote up a "short bio" for the Wikinewsie site - unfortunately I can't log in at work these days, so it's an uphill battle at times, but hopefully I'll be becoming at least a bit more active.

A freelance Canadian journalist, Joshua Ainslie splits his time between the nation's largest city and the nation's capital. Holding degrees in both English and Journalism, Joshua is a strong advocate of <a href="">free access to knowledge</a>, releasing all his article contributions into the public domain.

Sherurcij 00:31, 24 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Opium production in Afghanistan reaches record highs

I was wondering why you changed one of the sources on this article to include "Online" in the publication. (BBC News -> BBC News Online). Obviously, it's online. All the sources are. So why include "Online" in the title for the one sources? I'm still learning the policies and such here, so I appreciate your help with this. Thanks in advance, LaraLove 16:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Ah. Okay. That makes sense. Thanks. LaraLove 16:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Re: Bulletin

Yes, we are, but I've been exceedingly busy lately. I'll write up an update later tonight. Sorry for the inconvenience :-) Thunderhead - (talk) 22:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)Reply


Hi Brian, I am Grimlock (sysop and bureaucrate on WN fr), and we met eachother on the IRC few days ago (under the nickname Grimlock-fr). Your article on the Wikiscanner is very interesting, and - maybe - it would be very convenient to add some informations on the french insertions in Wikipedia - and else. So, I would like to ask you if you know when the french version of Wikiscanner will release, and one hand, and, on the other hand, if this tool will be adapted to other wikis like ... Wikinews and Commons, which are other ways to communicate. Thank you very much ! Grimlock 07:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

I've exchanged emails with Virgil who coded it, other wikis such as wikinews and wikiquote will get done eventually. I'd love to have cross-wiki collaboration on this to see what the French and German media have been up to in their respective wikipedias. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
I have written down a post on the french wikipedia village pump to tell them about your wish, and that the french version of Wikiscanner is available. I hope you will have soon answers. See you Grimlock 10:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hello Brianmc, I'm a wikipedia french admin and your request had talk to me. How could we help you ? I would inform you that often (like this article [1], french media take the international english news and translate for french people. So 95 on 100 time they don't make a difference between french and english version of wikipedia. --Gdgourou 21:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)Reply


I registered today because I saw that Portal:Football was very out of date. I have written a few articles so far today and will do every day to keep this updated. I was thinking of an idea though but I wanted to ask a sysop first.

Could we 'employ' users to be football writers for their team. So if this goes ahead there would be a group of users per team who will write up the latest news and match reports for Wikinews. The team links would be Portal:Football/LeagueName/ClubName. So for Celtic it'd be Portal:Football/SPL/Celtic. If you go to Portal:Football you will see that the fixture list has been updated, the featured results has been updated and that I am going to start a major revamp of Portal:Football. I am going to ask Dark Squall to help me as most of his contributions are football related topics.

Thanks. Please send your comments to me ASAP. Celticfan383 01:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)Reply



Protecting it is pointless - the protection is set to full protection for all but me (my userspace) by the software irrespective of per-page protection. Also, if it were not auto protected, I would recommend full protection as stuff put there can last for days in caches and can be a major security hazard - you could change the target of the login form in a way that didn't change anything visibly, but log passwords. That's why I made it in userspace, so it's fully protected in that manner.

Thanks! TheFearow 10:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Peace activists propose 'Fast for Freedom'

Hello Brian. I see that you've taken some interest in this article. Please do what you can to help Niacey with this. The user is looking for help, but getting a bit frustrated I am sensing. The article had gone through a Deletion Request process and the result was "delete". Niacey has since resurrected the deleted article and is trying to work it. I had suggested he/she request an interview to try a different approach as there aren't any real sources. If you could work some magic with the benefit of your experience, I am sure the user would appreciate it. I don't think I can be involved with this one any further (emotionally drained)! Thanks, Jcart1534 13:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

More Contributors

I'm going to ask my friends to help as most of them like football but I don't expect to get many. There must be another way. I'll find something! Celticfan383 16:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

First steps

Hi Brian,

I wrote my first news article here : Iran unveils part of its nuclear program. And I'd like you to have a look at it. My journalistic english might not be so good, so the article may require a little cleanup. Thanks for your help. Fabienkhan 09:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Definitive Article

I noticed a template you made, and fixed it so it would work for preload. I hope that helps you out. irid:t 03:34, 1 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Wikinews Bulletin: September 1, 2007

Issue VII - September 1, 2007
Administrators and Accredidations
Featured Articles and News In Pictures
Ségolène Royal during her meeting in Toulouse on April 19, 2007 for the 2007 French presidential elections.
Original reporting

Since our last edition, 18 articles have claimed original reporting. Some highlights:

Several others wrote stories based on television sources. The Wikinews Reports blog activity was mostly related to some of these stories. You can ask any of the blog authors if you want to help out on the blog.

Editor's note

Summer's over, and contributions seem to have increased a bit lately. I'd like to thank and welcome some of our newest community members for that: be sure to make Eric Wester, TheFearow, Theory, LaraLove, ISD and others feel most welcome! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Site activity
  • Wikinews is approaching 10'000 articles. Spread the word!
  • A Wikinews:World News Quiz has been set up after the Quiz extension was added to our MediaWiki repertoire. Users who take the quiz are invited to post their scores on the talk page.
  • Substantial changes have been made to the main page recently. TheFearow has implemented a dynamic news ticker - see Wikinews:Ticker for information and the template at Template:Ticker. Currently only available for almost every browser that isn't IE. IlyaHaykinson added the Template:Lead article with large image to the main page, which is currently the subject of a poll. A complete main page redesign is also being discussed.
  • User:Cspurrier has kicked off an ongoing mailing list discussion on the topic of setting up some kind of official organisation to issue press cards and support our off-site activities, like a Wikinews Chapter.
IRC activity
  • Some of the IRC topics include slow server activity, tinyurl's, the nearing of the 10'000th article on Wikinews, ... (add more here if you know more...)
Wikimedia News
About the Wikinews Bulletin

The Wikinews Bulletin is a free internal newsletter for members of the Wikinews community. The newsletter is "staffed" by several editors, who produce the (more or less) fortnightly publication. Don't hesitate to join our team, or leave us a tip. The publication has produced seven issues.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)Reply



Please preview and check before editing the tickersource - you're change caused no articles at all to show up, causing a JavaScript error and the ticker to not show up. TheFearow 00:24, 2 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

We have a problem

Well, I think you are exagerating too much with my article about german author Artur Balder. The text is NOT the same, and second, if the text is not the same they dont have the property of the notice or of the phenomenon. You have to be more clear in the declaration of copyright violation, BECAUSE many internet medien take the notices from agencies and then they opperate with copyright property, with is not exactly. My text have more information than the one of America read spanish. Please, clear thse situation. YOU ARE TAKING EXTREM POSITION. Maybe here occures like in other wikipedias, in some of them there are people who think these belong to them. --Uma 11:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

I don't believe I'm taking an extreme position, the two articles were worded almost the same. It was - to me - apparent that the Wikinews story was written from a single source, and written too closely from that single source to be fair use. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

German author Artur Balder releases historical fantasy novel set in medieval England

Hi! We have got a similar problem in the German Wikinews. I deleted the (English) article because it reads almost exactly the same as its source (Reason: URV = copy vio). I tried to explain to the author that he should sent an email to the OTRS to ensure that it was not a copyright violation. --Angela H. 13:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

the same in Spain,

the spanish article is flagged copyvio. is this a fan campaign ? or a more subtile form of advertisment by his agents or friends ? Jacques Divol 13:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

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How is wikinews different from wikipedia ? --Rushmi 11:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)Reply


Hi Brian - I souped up my User page. Let me know what I need to do. Dave --David Shankbone 20:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Ping my e-mail when you get a chance - I'd like to talk a little more about Wikinews off-wiki. --David Shankbone 21:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
Please register an email address. I've seen the updates to your user page - personally I was looking more for the politicians.

My email link works, or there is the ever-popular brian dot mcneil at wikinewsie dot org.--Brian McNeil / talk 23:05, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

I e-mailed you. All of my photographs are news-quality, depending on the angle of the story being reported :-) --David Shankbone 23:27, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Unusual request

Just FYI, I'm cross-posting this to BrianNewZealand's talk page as well. Hope you two don't mind.

I need help convincing User:Edbrown05 that he can trust me. He's convinced that I'm a liar, and that I want to use his sockpuppet accounts myself. Ignoring the latter, I'd like your help doing a CheckUser on me. I've already posted the request to WN:CU. To re-iterate what I wrote there, I'm not concerned about my privacy. If I were afraid of people being able to identify my IP addresses, I'd edit through Tor. :)

Thanks for any help you can provide. irid:t 05:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

The other Brian nabbed it first. Sorry to bother. :) irid:t 06:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
Incidentally you'd have a hard time editing through Tor - I blocked all the listed endpoints a while back. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:34, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
I thought so. Hey, come to IRC. irid:t 06:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Quiz extension

Hi, Brianmc! You left a note on de.wikinews that the MediaWiki quiz extension would be available for Wikinews sites. Somehow this does not seem to work on Is there anything which should be somehow adjusted to make it work? Greetings from the German sister project --Angela H. 15:11, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Seems I made a mistake in assuming it is project-wide as opposed to lang-specific. Sorry! Ask Brion, I got the impression to set it in place for us was fairly trivial. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:45, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
O.K., I'll probably do that later. I just wanted to know if I made a stupid mistake or something (which does not seem to be the case :-)). --Angela H. 17:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
I currently have Brion in IRC. >:) I'll get you the extension if I can and you can have de:Ze Interrogation. ;-). --Brian McNeil / talk 18:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
Oh, thanks a lot. :-)   --Angela H. 18:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Concerning the page de:Ze Interrogation, a small discussion was started on my talk page, the reason being that it was the only page in the article name space which was not a news article (and would probably become an orphan sometime). Question: Would you like to keep it in your user space, or should I take it over? Unfortunately, de.wikinews seems to be far away from introducing the news quizzes as a new project. :-( Although I have not yet given up. ;-) Regards, --Angela H. 20:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

I don't mind one way or the other, the point wasn't to get a permanent page but to demo the extension. I'd be delighted to see 3 or 4 langs doing a quiz - but if de. isn't one of them so be it. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well, there were no objections, but somehow there are not so many contributors to de.wikinews and I'm still waiting for comments on the de:Wikinews:Pressestammtisch. --Angela H. 10:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
This is one of the things I'd like to see imported from en.wikinews to de.wikinews, so maybe I could support Angela in this. --Gwyndon 22:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC) (aka The one who from your wikinewsies mention on the de. Pressestammtisch came here to contribute more - and request accreditation).Reply

If you had stayed one extra minute

Here's the picture you didn't wait up for: Image:Clearing away wrecked Belgian trains.jpgZachary talk 22:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)Reply


"Efforts were made to contact user "God" on the Freenode IRC network; mysteriously no messages could be forwarded to this user."

ROFLMFAO! Contralya 13:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

IRC problem...

How to join IRC with Mozilla Firefox? I tried more times but still can't send any messages. Brock contact... 16:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

I recommend getting the Chatzilla add-in, makes life easier once you get the hang of it. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Quiz de Noticias Mundiales

Seriously great to see this on another WN: Well, we would like to thank you from 'es' because you end up to bother to get this cool things... Hehe... - Jurock (reply here) 15:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that SonicR created de:Wikinews:Nachrichtenquiz from »:de:Ze Interrogation«. I will probably update this now. :-) --Angela H. 15:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)Reply


I want User:Contralya blocked for calling me a Communist.
This isn't the way we should be doing things here. It doesn't have to be a long block, but I completely resent that because I quote some random protester I'm being labelled. --David Shankbone 20:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

I am still in London, this is a terminal in the Business lounge of Waterloo International, and I'll be really busy when I get home. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Reply


  • Can you provide links to the accreditation process on de.? I was unaware of it and Sean Heron did not go through it to my knowledge. - See also Angela's comments at WN:AR. --Gwyndon 13:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Can you get any de. admins to vote support here? It would go a long way towards confirming your asserted credentials? --Brian McNeil / talk 14:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
See comments of Angela and Sonic. Angela wrote about my request at the German WaterCooler, where I also reacted, but the de. section isn't as active as en. --Gwyndon 13:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm glad you have noticed my request for accreditation at en.wikinews (and the fact that I have been accredited previously on de.wikinews when the German accreditation process was still operational, to allow for Original Reporting). Currently the votes are balanced and I'd ask you to lend a voice in support - and, being an optiomistic person, to OK my press pass to allow for access to press conferences, starting with the upcoming Frankfurt International BookFair in October where all topics are handled and interview access to dignitaries and interesting authors of many countries is possible for someone with accreditation.
From the moment of my updated user page, which predated my request, I've started being more active than before on both en. and de.wikinews, preparing my own articles and contributing to those of others, which I intend to continue no matter what, but which, as I hope, also lends credibility to my request. Thanks for your efforts, --Gwyndon 03:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)Reply


Thanks Brian - that means a lot coming from you! --David Shankbone 13:02, 30 September 2007 (UTC)Reply


No worries about that, I considered it, and figured it was better to put it in the Census. Thanks for asking, though! Thunderhead - (talk - email - contributions)


THANKS FOR THE WELCOME!!!!!!! THIS IS A FUNNY SITE AYE? The Masked Hunter 10:24 8 Oct 2007


I might be able to ask a question like, "Why do you think Wikipedia is important?" Most people don't understand "Wikimedia" or "Wikinews" and are unlikely, even after a long explanation, to want to proffer an opinion about something they don't understand.

On the flip side, I could probably send an e-mail out to people to ask if they can supply a quote. "Support" might be too strong; "important" might be better. But we'd need the campaign to be more gelled, perhaps a link to a fully-fleshed out drive that we can send them. Something that doesn't boil down to my saying, "Hi, we're trying to raise funds and we're going to use your name if you can tell us why you support us." That's going to scare pretty much everybody away. --David Shankbone 15:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

I asked Brownback the "important" question. I'll try to get the interview up tonight. 45 minutes. --David Shankbone 16:51, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Dear Brian - Many thanks will sleep better now - Best rgds

Chowringhee 14:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Steak-knife tracheotomy

Not really, I just spent my first week in Ashington in the North East of England, in the gynaecology and obstetrics department of Wansbeck General Hospital. On Friday I witnessed a delivery for the first time, that was cool. See you round, cheers. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Dell joins Microsoft-Nortel VoIP Team

Brian, thanks for taking the time to look at this news, I have remove the cheerleading words. Is this how the article should look? HammondJr 19:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Can you look at the article and change the tag to publish if appropiate, or have another user check it? I have been watching it all day waiting for someone to look at it and I have seen no updates, but I don't know how long this process normally takes, but I did not want it to become called old news if this stays unchecked for another day or so... HammondJr 21:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Edbrown05 Request for ArbCom

I've proposed a request for arbcom relating to the recent situation with Ed. If you take issue with being listed as an involved party, please remove your name from that list. Otherwise, I suppose you'll be expected to make a brief statement on that page. irid t i e 07:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Okay, I also saw that he's been listed to be stripped of accreditation. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:51, 23 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Userpage Sharing Project

You've been added as a member of the Userpage Sharing Project. You were added by me because I needed people to test the template with. If you wish to be removed, please contact me here. If not, please add {{User:Thunderhead/sharing}} to the top of your userpage (or wherever you want to stick it. (Plus, might be time to archive ;) ) Thanks, Thunderhead - (talk - email - contributions) 22:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Re: are you serious?

I hadn't even realised it was you doing that - you weren't signed in, dunno if you know. Ok then, in that case leave it. I just couldn't see anything worthwile as a news story in what little was there, but if there is a serious debate on it, I am prepared to admit my error (albeit based on simple ignorance) and remove the template, at least for now, and wait with interest to see what you can do with it. Please accept my apologies, Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 21:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for the help on IRC, Brian!   --Solumeiras 17:55, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply


I have some pretty strong concerns about how insular Wikinews is coming across in the Webcomics issue. The communal barriers to entry here make it difficult to attract new contributors, and the site is beginning to look like a place where only a small group edit and work, and those who come in to join us face serious opposition. It's a good article; I've seen worse be published. --David Shankbone 18:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

"Too many non-associated stories"

What do you mean? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I've been busy with a couple of other things and it isn't immediately apparent to me what you mean. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
You removed the {{Infobox Wikimedia}} from the article on webcomics with that edit summary... I think most people interested in an article about Wikipedia will be interested in other articles on Wikimedia subjects. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Makes sense now, sorry for not catching on faster. If there is to be a template/infobox on the article like that I would prefer to see one that links to more mainstream coverage. The Wikinews Today template, or similar would do. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Seems to me that this would be a niche story not targeted at a mainstream audience but more at the readers specifically interested in wikis and such, therefore I put a more specific infobox.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Brion

Thanks, but we don't want to overload Brion. If we can get him, it would be excellent, but if not, then we can't rush him. Thunderhead - (talk - email - contributions) 20:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

current event

I'm new here so don't know how to get this posted: WATEC Israel 2007, details at this link [1] Hope you can help me with this. Pls leave a note for me on WP (same username) Excuse please, got to run. Thank you, Shir-El too 17:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)Reply


After reading this post I decided to go to the Wikipedia IRC channel and ask the admins how they did it. They told me the pages are w:MediaWiki:Cite text and w:MediaWiki:Tooltip-t-cite. FellowWiki Newsie 02:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC)Reply


Hey. Why do you gave template: {{cleanup|where to start? Missing date template, can't follow up on content of Polish source for further details. Doesn't read like a news report}} in News on Braceface comeback on Zigzap? I'm waiting on Your answer Prasuk 22:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

  • There should be a {{date}} template on every article.
  • I don't know any Polish readers that can get more detail out of the interwiki link to add.
  • Likely nobody outside Poland has heard of Braceface or Zigzap, they need introduction.
  • The last I'm sorry, but while my Polish is worse than your English, your English is not good. You need to give more information so people can read something out of your report and tidy it up. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Footie articles

Thanks. Kingjeff 00:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Reply


Yes, I have finished it now. I have put in a request for accreditation (the policy states that editing on other Wikimedia projects for a long time is good proof that I'm OK for accreditation). Thanks! Auroranorth 12:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I agree. Could you please look over the request? Auroranorth 13:08, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
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