User talk:Chaetodipus/Archive 2010

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Latest comment: 13 years ago by Mikemoral in topic An image for my article

Your bot

I've flagged Mikemoralbot, it's now set to go. I closed it early so you'd have a chance to set it up before midnight UTC, when the contest officially starts. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 13:58, 24 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 18:02, 24 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikinews writing contest reminder

To keyboards!!


Points to remember

The competition page is here. Remember, you'll need to move from the newcomers to experienced section as the competition progresses.

Everyone who's new to Wikinews remind yourselves of the article guide and style guide. And, use the Enter an article tab in this template to correctly start your competition articles.

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Getting Help

Possibly the fastest way to get help is to look for the regulars in the #wikinews IRC channel on Freenode. See this page for more details. Remember, many people will lurk, connected long-term, but not regularly checking for messages. Please be patient when looking for answers to queries, it can be annoying to see someone ask a question but leave before you notice it.

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Start here for competition-ready templates

Use this form to create a competition-ready article. Be sure to check the Main page and Newsroom to see you're not creating a duplicate. Please also add your article and point score to the log so that your score can be counted.

Good luck!

—Message delivered by MikemoralBot on 23:15, 24 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


OK, I think the newsletter is good to go, when you have a chance. Before you send it, could you do me a favour and check it for errors and check the leader table hasn't changed since now. If it has, you can just recopy over a new one from the table page and change the total article count. Thanks!   Tris   22:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

When you send it, as before this week, can you update the leader table and the total article count. Thank you again!   Tris   22:39, 7 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Wikinews Writing Contest 2010 Newsletter

—Message delivered by MikemoralBot on 04:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Writing contest newsletter: week 2

—Message delivered by MikemoralBot on 03:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Haiti's banks reopen

You still haven't got the five points for this article that you should be getting. Can't you ask an administrator to add the categories? --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 17:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hmm... I notice it has the category. Anyway, the version I had written should be three points. It is still under the verification header as far as I can tell. --Mikemoral♪♫ 17:42, 8 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re: Brit English

Not a problem. I often interchange the two without thinking about it. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 20:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Niger coup article

So I fixed the Niger coup ousts president article; added another paragraph to it like you said to, but I'm new to Wikinews, and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do next. Do I just wait, or do I tag it again for review? I'm not quite sure of the policies here, so I figured I'd ask before I made some big mistake. Thanks. C628 (talk) 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Sorry for butting in here Mikemoral, but you seem to be away for the moment and I think a timely response would be good here) If you feel you've addressed the issues with an article that was tagged or failed review, it's perfectly acceptable to re-add {{review}} to it - it's not necessary to wait for anything. Hope that helps. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 03:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks Tempo. --Mikemoral♪♫ 03:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks to both of you, sorry it took this long to reply. C628 (talk) 12:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Contest newsletter: weeks 3-4

—Message delivered by MikemoralBot on 22:32, 21 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I just created Wikinews:Story preparation/82nd Academy Awards and I request u to make some stylistic improvements, additions, subtractions,etc. Thank You --Adi4094 (talk) 05:13, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Failed artical

Im not quite surprised that it flopped it was my first attempt and it seemed that it was doomed from the start. Thanks for letting me know though. Moria330 (talk) 10:22, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I assumed you'd be keeping an eye on the article to see what would happen to it. --Mikemoral♪♫ 15:36, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I entered my name to the wwc about 2 days ago. Plz. advise on how to proceed. I do not have any categories like Category:Adi4094 (WWC2010) --Adi4094 (talk) 12:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Done I created your category. Mikemoral♪♫ 15:33, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hey Mike,

Do you reckon we should keep it on a two week schedule now, with things much quieter?

  Tris   10:39, 28 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That works probably much more efficiently mostly because the contest is slowing at this point. --Mikemoral♪♫ 18:02, 28 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Any chance you can do it this week; am up to my ears in stuff. Thanks!   Tris   19:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yeah, I'll find someone to write something. Might be a bit late tho; I'm busy with my schoolwork. --Mikemoral♪♫ 19:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


For some reason, Rana doesn't appear to have a category for the writing contest. Can you explain please? --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 13:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Done --Mikemoral♪♫ 18:02, 28 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the comment page you requested for deletion

Just a heads up - bugzilla:22678. Cheers. Bawolff 18:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I noticed it was an attempted comments page after I warned. I fixed my mistake with in a minute so I hope the anon doesn't run away. --Mikemoral♪♫ 19:38, 28 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi Mikemoral, would you like me to nominate you for adminship? You've been a consistently active user for the past few months now, and I think you'd make a great sysop - plus we could do with some extra help in that department. Let me know what you think. :-) Tempodivalse [talk] 01:37, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sure, I accept your nomination. --Mikemoral♪♫ 03:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done, see [1]. Don't forget to accept! :-) Tempodivalse [talk] 03:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RE:Contest newsletter

I would love to, but I don't think that it is possible for me to email it to you. --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 20:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Then just leave it here. Thanks, Mikemoral♪♫ 22:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How about this:

"There have been some significant changes to the leaderboard over the last couple of weeks. One of the main changes is the fact that five more entrants for the competition have now started to create articles for the contest, meaning that five more users have now gone onto the leaderboard. The total number of competitors on the list was 20 the last time I checked. One user in particular, known by the name of C628, appears to have performed particularly persistently recently, going from not being on the leaderboard at all to climbing all the way up to seventh place. On a separate note, I also managed to reach second place recently, surpassing Dendodge's total. This shows you just what you can achieve if you put enough effort into writing articles over a certain period of time. Remember, it is still perfectly possible to build up a score that is higher than Tempodivalse's! I wish all of our competitors the very best of luck for the next month and a bit."

Will this do? Does this need to be improved? Please let me know as soon as you can. Thanks, Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 17:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi Mikemoral, just to let you know ShakataGaNai (talk · contribs) promoted you to admin status a few minutes ago. Enjoy your new powers and please don't hesitate to ask me if you need any help with them. :-) Tempodivalse [talk]

Thanks, and I'll try not to break the wiki :p. --Mikemoral♪♫ 03:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Congrats! Pmlineditor discuss 08:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Congratulations on reaching Administrator status. Best of luck to you for the future. --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 17:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Regarding archiving articles

Hi Mikemoral! Hope you're enjoying being an administrator. Minor note, when archiving articles please do not remove {{publish}}, but rather add {{archive}} immediately below it. That causes articles to disappear from the archives, which is definitely not what we want.   Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk] 19:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry. I'm still learning. --Mikemoral♪♫ 23:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Bad! Don't remove {{publish}}!1--ShakataGaNai ^_^ 19:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wow, within a minute. Thanks, Mikemoral♪♫ 23:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

whoa! no bot Archiving

Please stop using a bot such as AWB to archive articles. This has been voted on many times. --SVTCobra 00:30, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No, this is all manually done. I must verify with a click twice. I will stop. --Mikemoral♪♫ 00:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Even with the 'two clicks' there is no way you can carry out all the checking specified in Wikinews:Archive conventions. This is the final streamlining of articles; dates are brought into a single format, spelling is rechecked, etc. Brian McNeil (talk · contribs) wrote these conventions. The idea is that once an article is protected and archived, there is almost no reason to touch it again. Categories seem to be the main exception to this rule. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, thanks. I'll not use AWB. Mikemoral♪♫ 00:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What checking? I never do any checking of that sort before archiving (unless it's something obvious I see in the edit window). Due to flagged revs/peer review, the possibility of inappropriate information/mistakes being brought into the article after publication is practically nil, it will be quickly noticed and reverted (unless a flagged editor does it, but we trust them to know better than that). IMHO, there is no harm in using a semi-automated process to archive. Something to bring up at the water cooler? Tempodivalse [talk] 03:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Tempo, you are supposed to do style checking (not fact checking). I thought you had read the conventions, since you are a prolific archiver. --SVTCobra 23:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I read the conventions, but forgot about that bit (although i've archived thousands of articles, and never received any comment on not checking anything). But style check should have been done properly after a peer-review, and any further edits would have gone under scrutiny due to Flagged Revisions. Tempodivalse [talk] 23:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just as a side note, "Wikipedia's AutoWikiBrowser supports Wikinews and is a useful tool for catching typos and common errors. It is, however, no substitute for the current version of the human eyeball," is what the policy says and therefore I assumed because I can see the wikicode before pushing button, it'd be fine. --Mikemoral♪♫ 23:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hello? Do you have any opinions on the piece of text I've left here? Any suggestions to improve it? Please let me know as soon as you can. --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 18:26, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's good, thanks for the piece. I'll run MikemoralBot soon. --Mikemoral♪♫ 23:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Contest newsletter

—Message delivered by MikemoralBot on 00:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just wondering...

If you could userfy the aricle I wrote on that Albert Yip scandal. On 'pedia even hoax articles can be usefied but I don't know if the rules are the same on 'news. Kayau (talk) 04:25, 28 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Done I don't think there are set policies. User:Kayau/Restaurant translates 'cow's stomach' as 'Albert Yip' --Mikemoral♪♫ 18:24, 28 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


next time i'll check the link--Pierpao (talk) 19:59, 28 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No problem. We have FlaggedRevs for that purpose. --Mikemoral♪♫ 20:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Two sucide bombers attack Moscow

Can you review this article again? I have improved it. Xxxsacheinxxx (talk) 08:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, there's a suggested merging of two similar articles. Perhaps that's priority. --Mikemoral♪♫ 22:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I created Two sucide bombers attack Moscow so I don't mind merging it with Two suicide bombers attack Moscow Metro. I'll try and merge it by today. Xxxsacheinxxx (talk) 06:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are now an accredited user

Congrats and thanks for your work. –Juliancolton | Talk 01:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks! --Mikemoral♪♫ 01:52, 1 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are CHU!!!

PIKA-CHU I CHOOSE YOU! --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 05:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

THUNDERBOLT! --Mikemoral♪♫ 06:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Ok. Drini (talk) 03:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Award Star!

A little something for you in recognition of you writing your 10th article. Keep up the good work! --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 20:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! --Mikemoral♪♫ 01:20, 10 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I have no desire to enter into a pointless discussion. The one comment made by the user was one among many. I was not referring to just one situation. I direct you to his wikipedia profile where he refers to administrators as "Nazis." This discussion is over.--William Saturn (talk) 17:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Soapbox,_Western_Australia - i suspect that it needs a delete? SatuSuro (talk) 04:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Done Mikemoral♪♫ 23:50, 20 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

CC License Question

(this was posted to your old, redirected talk page, moving here so you'll get the ping. -Tempo) Since Wikinews is technically commercial, are there any CC licenses that can be freely used in the audio news cast? I was just curious since all CC licenses I have come across have a non-commercial attribution. If that's the case, I can go back to the old intro / outro music for the time being since I'm not sure where I'd find free music that would meet the requirements. If you have any ideas on what licenses we can use, please let me know.

Thanks, Dan Turtlestack (talk) 02:33, 22 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Basically, it's any audio without the NC bit. I would try the Internet Archive at Thjey have lots of free audio. --Mikemoral♪♫ 02:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Following up on AW

(copied here from your old talk page so you'll get the ping. -Tempo)

I stopped by your audio files page to take a listen and the only issue I see(hear) is your microphone. It sort of makes your voice sound as if you are speaking over a telephone but otherwise your pronunciation seems just fine. I'd love to get some help with the audio briefs and if you stop by my user page you can take a look at some of the ideas I have for structure, templates and so on. I'm keeping all that on my user page right now just to edit the ideas before I finalize them and get them on the main audio news briefs page.

Really, all that you would have to worry about right now is writing your script for the story you are reading, then record the file and get it to me in .ogg format (along with your script - either in an email or as a .txt file). If we have access to an FTP server, that would be even better. Once I have that, I can edit the show in Audacity and get the final mix created and all the housekeeping done on the wiki side.

The only other thing I would need is a .ogg recording of you saying your name and the current date. This is because if we are both reading, then the script would go something like :

"From Wikinews, the free news source, this is the audio Wikinews brief for Friday, April 23nd, 2010. I'm Dan Harlow and I'm Mike Moral and these are today's top stories:"

The part in bold you would record (keep in mind the inflection of your voice so it "sounds" like we are in the same room. For example, if you listen to how I say my name, I pronounce it so that it builds : Harlow is higher than Dan and Dan is higher than I'm, so you would probably want to reverse that structure when you say "And I'm Mike Moral" where I'm is higher then Mike and Mike is higher than Moral. I know it's sort of hard to explain without hearing it, but it's an easy thing to work out.

Of course this is dependent on who will be reading the first (lead) story in the brief. If you are reading the lead story, then it would be "I'm Dan Harlow and I'm Mike Moral ..." but if I'm reading the top story, then you should read the introduction "From Wikinews, the free news source, this is the audio Wikinews brief for Friday, April 23nd, 2010. I'm Mike Moral" This way the recording flows nicely into the lead story without 3 changes in speaker in just under 3 seconds.

Anyway, we can work this all out as we go since it's just a few minor creative decisions that can easily be edited on the fly.

Let me know when you want to start, even if you want to start today. I try to publish the AW around 5pm EST (in the US) because that fits my current schedule, but just lemme know how, when and if you want to do any recording. Turtlestack (talk) 18:06, 23 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Okay, I'll get you that audio. Wouldn't ti be easier to create a collaboration page on wiki? We have plenty of space. I'll get the audio online soon. Btw, my name is Mike Morales, but there's no problem. --MikemoralSock (talk) 19:40, 23 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Probably not today, because I'll be away from laptop with a decent audio config. I'll go ahead and ping you when I probably can. --MikemoralSock (talk) 19:46, 23 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No problem, just lemme know when you want to start. As far as a collaboration page, I have no idea how to set that up but that sounds like the perfect solution to coordinating everything. Turtlestack (talk) 21:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay see Wikinews:Audio Wikinews/Workspace. That page could the collaboration page. --Mikemoral♪♫ 23:10, 23 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! I'll play around with it tomorrow since today ran way longer than I expected. 02:10, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Silliness in IRC

I suppose that is one of those games you can only win by not playing? I felt like I completely wasted my time, and I've seen similar many years ago. Sure I've also seen some of those IRC nicks before I was editing here. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talkmain talk' 11:22, 28 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, I had lots of time to kill. I had just done an article before I played the quiz. --Mikemoral♪♫ 01:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have fixed the issues that you addressed with your review- I believe that all of the 1st person is gone. Cheers, Tjc6 (talk) 23:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re: Sorry

No problem, it happens to everyone. Cheers, Tjc6 (talk) 18:29, 9 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I am coming back to Wikinews because I am finding myself bored at times. Don't worry, I have no plans to repeat the past. I wanted to know if you could design a user page like yours for me. I have an image in mind.

Asher Heimermann 04:23, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikinews! Mikemoral is gone / apparently he went to sleep as I'll do after I save this. Feel free to copy his userpage, but don't say you are an admin ;) --Diego Grez return fire 04:45, 10 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi! I'm here for another hour or so. Give me an image and I'll do one for you. Mikemoral♪♫ 04:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Alberta Lt Gov

Thank you for taking the time to peek at Albertan lieutenant governor sworn in. It has been a great while since I tried writing a wikinews article, but it was exciting to be there today.SriMesh | talk 04:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeah, I was having a hard time getting the name right and, well, flooded rc. Mikemoral♪♫ 04:48, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Contest is over

... and me is waiting to be officially announced as the winner and given the promisted barnstar ;) Tempodivalse [talk] 03:52, 23 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

/me gets to announcements. Mikemoral♪♫ 21:10, 23 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for running this. There's still a few articles to put into the totals - Diego is second, not me, once that's done. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:20, 23 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What makes you think I will?

Also, what gives you the right to edit my user page?

Not "your user page". Griffinofwales (talk) 15:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The "right?" That's called spam removal. —Mikemoral♪♫ 17:58, 29 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Custom portal sections

Please don't create portal-specific subpages & tweak the templates!

There is already one option for custom sub-sections, and I'll be doing more. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:15, 2 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Then should I have created a new template instead? Oh I see what you mean by the subsections. —Mikemoral♪♫ 23:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Today's This Day In History

I was so going to do Edward Elgar, in fact, I even used a piece of his music in Monday's show to lead up to today, but I was so beat and dead tired after work and the segment would have taken so long to write, that I just couldn't do it and had to settle for something "easier". Anyway, I just felt like I should tell you since you like classical music and Elgar is a fairly major figure (with plenty of CC licences music I was all set to use). I'll get to Elgar next year lol Turtlestack (talk) 04:42, 3 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ah, I'm actually playing an Elgar piece in my ensemble now. :) I have this in the public domain. —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:52, 3 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Or [2] from the Marine Band also PD. —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Director of National Intelligence news article

The issues have been fixed. I'm sorry I contacted you directly on your talk page about it, but I fear it goes stale if it doesn't get reviewed soon. Nuburos (talk) 20:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oh there no problem. —Mikemoral♪♫ 20:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikinews:Assume good faith

Hi. I thought I'd better explain what I was thinking here. I'd overlooked the Category:No publish that {{Softredirect}} adds, so I put that in manually, and of course your copyedit of de-contracting the contraction. I'm not stuck on {{ambox|type=warning}}. But {{Softredirect}} is diametrically opposed to the page's whole reason for existing, because it generates a message that says AGI is the same thing as AGF, when we're pouring all our effort into doing absolutely everything we possibly can to prevent anyone from ever thinking that. --Pi zero (talk) 03:42, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

But we definitely need something better than an ambox. —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:54, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What I don't like about the ambox is its stingy use of space: there's that whole page with nothing else on it, and the box is this narrow horizontal strip with a small image, jam packed with text. I actually think some of its aesthetic features might be rather pleasant if not for that. I might try my hand at opening it out a bit... tomorrow. (It's now the wee hours of the morning for me.) --Pi zero (talk) 05:53, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bawolff vote RFP

Can you please indicate more clearly, whether this is a Support or Oppose? Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 19:44, 11 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ok. —Mikemoral♪♫ 20:37, 11 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Australian Internet Censorship

I dont know how to apply such a template to the article itself....either teach me or do it urself...

Firstly, read the errors that were I found in the article, correct them, and but the article back up for {{review}}. —Mikemoral♪♫ 03:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Audio transcript

Hi Mikemoral, Benny says you have the transcript for the Creative Commons interview. We have concerns over verification for that story, so could you comment here on the matter? Thanks. Tempodivalse [talk] 15:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Blocking Alternateaccount

True, the username may have been confusing, but it should have been blocked with autoblock disabled and account creation allowed, as there is a constructive user using that account that is now inadvertently affected by an autoblock. MC10 (talk) 23:44, 8 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I screwed up there. —Mikemoral♪♫ 23:49, 8 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request for new username

Please see here my request and comment. --Saki (talk) 06:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

To publish or not to publish

I was just looking through my watchlist (I'm kinda bad about looking in there regularly) and noticed you were wondering why we don't publish the news brief page.

When James Pain was running AW he had in his templates and notes that we don't publish those but I can't remember his reasons.

However, I believe the no publish is because we want visitors going straight to the articles and not the briefs page. Also, the briefs page represents the script of the show and not an approved and verified version of each story. Since changes are made to the articles for the show (word flow usually, but sometimes more dramatic changes have to be made) we wouldn't probably want the script to be the representative of each article. One other thing is that I've been given amazingly wide latitude to do these shows as I see fit - adding music, bad puns, humorous transitions between stories and neutral but (hopefully) funny commentary on the rare occasion (the very end of the Harry Potter story from the July 15th show being a good example of such).

Still though, it might not be a bad idea to run the idea of a publish on these pages past the "committee" to see what everyone thinks. I agree that it would add at least one more reason for Google to look through the site and rank us which, in turn, could lend us more exposure - which is the point of the AW anyway.

Perhaps changes could be made to the format of the briefs page to more accurately reflect the actual text of the published articles?

Turtlestack (talk) 22:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There's a difference between publishing and {{publishing}}. The first is clicking the save button to allow Google, Yahoo!, Bing, etc. to index the pages and put them in web searches, the other publishes news articles to the main page. When you add CAT:No publish to a page it stops from being indexed in a web search. I think it'd be a good idea to allow the news briefs to show up in Google for publicity and such.
I personally think the news briefs are fine as is. Maybe when there can be for than one person running AW, then we can perhaps get the news briefs put on the main page. I'm not sure what you had in mind for changing the news briefs' format, however. If you mean putting up the briefs up for {{review}}, then that should be brought up at WN:WC.
Hope this helps, —Mikemoral♪♫ 22:54, 16 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, I just brought up the idea of changing the format to better reflect the actual published stories. As far as hitting the save button, that's totally fine. I'll start doing that with today's show once I get it uploaded. Should I save the other pages too? Turtlestack (talk) 00:17, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Er, you do know you can embed an audio link? If the news briefs could be reviewed in a timely manner, I'd not see any serious problem with a published template containing it being included in the front page. The script? Can someone ask Shaka what it'd take to copy that to the Commons media file talk page? --Brian McNeil / talk 01:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
IIRC, commons has a TimedText namespace for scripts. I'm sure reviewing the news briefs is quick and easy, follow along with the audio and fix the script accordingly. —Mikemoral♪♫ 01:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yep, the briefs page is the script I use to read the show - it varies very little from the recorded show aside from the occasional ad-lib or linguistic work around. There is, of course, the easter egg I have in every show which is not on the script or brief, but it's a non issue since it's fund raising stuff for the site. Mike knows what I'm talking about :) Turtlestack (talk) 04:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • After that, it should start going out on our feeds. Someone used to have a Wikinews account on iTunes and put WN:AUDIO up there - might've been Ilya. I can probably set up something to take them, transcode, and put them on Spotify. That would have to be user-side, unless Commons has toys for distribution of media. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:02, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Turtlestack already got us on iTunes. I remember we were chatting on IRC about getting AW on iTunes, I suggested PodBean. He still uses it for MP3 hosting for iTunes-friendliness. We also have AW at the Internet Archive. Ideally, we can get the Wikinews Twitter to post whenever there is a AW release as well. —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yep, we've been on iTunes awhile now (May 15th, actually), and I've been uploading the show to the Internet Archive since day one. I also upload the show onto my blog which sends out a tweet to my twitter. I also used to upload to SoundCloud, but that site is really more for music so I stopped using it. Having the show pop up on the official wikinews twitter would be really nice to remind everyone that it has gone live too. Turtlestack (talk) 03:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Note, just address a previous comment. No publish does not prevent google from indexing (Well it might prevent google news, but thats a different story). No publish keeps it off the list of developing list on the news room. No publish is unnecessary on brief pages. The category Brief has a very similar affect to the no publish category. Bawolff 03:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah, ok, I'll just use the Category:Brief in the future. Turtlestack (talk) 03:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, I fail with No publish. :p —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:17, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Don't feel bad, I still have no idea what any these codes mean. I cut and paste all my templates and otherwise just type in what you all tell me to and hope it all works :) Turtlestack (talk) 04:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Geez, it took me forever to learn wikicode. I joined WMF in April '07 and probably didn't get until last year. —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Spam Blacklist

meta:Talk:Spam blacklist#Proposed additions - Amgine | t 04:38, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Noted. —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Recent edits

Mike, I think you can pass on my frustration RE: attempts to edit the WC, and Tempo's userpage from a touchscreen mobile phone.

I'm well-pissed off. He's an arse, politeness does not excuse being an ignorant moron. Wikinews will need people editing from 3G devices such as this Nokia, to really break out in OR terms. He's stymied my efforts, in very limited time, to participate in important policy debates. Nice is useless, when you cause the loss of hours of input by someone with a clue. I despair, and thus stomp off in search of news where I am ln-the-scene, able to get photos and audio, and not plagued by people who are mediocre would-be 'journalists'. More likely, I will assume he role of bard toan attractive, mostly female, audience. I'm disgusted, and not wasting anymore time on this 'useless idiot'. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talkmain talk 19:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nice article

Just wanted to compliment you on Ahmadinejad criticizes Paul the octopus. Aside from giving me a good chuckle, it was an interesting read. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeah, I thought it'd make for a fun article. :) Funny how Ahmadinejad would even talk about a octopus. —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:13, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A composer today

It's been awhile since I featured a composer on TDiH, so I went all out today and even structured the segment according to each movement of The Four Seasons to correspond to the period in Vivaldi's life :) Hope you enjoy it. Turtlestack (talk) 02:25, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yay! I love the composer segments. :) —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:35, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It was a tough choice too since both Vivaldi and Johann Sebastian Bach died on the same day (and only 9 years apart) but Vivaldi was a bit easier to do. Turtlestack (talk) 02:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, that's kind of is a hard choice, I'd agree. —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


about that. Sonia (talk) 05:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oh, no problem, just make sure you leave copyedits to articles to that have not been edited for a while or articles in {{review}}. :) —Mikemoral♪♫ 05:30, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
FYI, we have an {{editing}} banner to warn when edit conflicts are likely. Few people seem to use it. --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:36, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you

Thanks for removing my reviewer right (and for giving it to me in the first place). Feel free to drop by my talk page on Wikipedia if ever you need anything. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I forgot I gave you the right too. Well, bye. :( —Mikemoral♪♫ 21:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Opinion -- topic newsworthy?

I have told some of the primatologists I know that if they want to bring breaking news to me, then I will help highlight it on Wikinews. Originally, I was thinking about newly discovered species/populations, extinctions, or other major conservation-related events. I've just received a request from a researcher wanting to know if Wikinews could include a news article about an award that's being given to a Malagasy conservationist for his efforts to help protect habitat in Madagascar. The news article (from the organization giving the award) can be found at the following location: Forest Conservationist from Madagascar to Receive 2010 Seacology Prize

Do you feel that an article on this topic is newsworthy in a Wikinews context? I can see it going both ways, given what Rabary Desiré has done in Madagascar: buying land with his meager income to build a small private nature reserve, educating his fellow citizens about conservation, etc. However, I've never heard of "Seacology" until now, but it sounds like an important award, the money will be spent to further conservation of primate species recognized on "The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates" (published by the IUCN, Conservation International, and the International Primatological Society), and the $10,000 prize is huge for someone who lives in a country where most people earn around $100 a year. Your thoughts? – VisionHolder « talk » 01:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

To be honest, I've never heard of Seacology before. You will need two sources for the article to be reliable, unless WN:OR is done. If I can get contact information (i.e., an email address), then I can ask the Seacology organization. It's best to have a third-party news source and ideally the article will be written around the ceremony. I'd like to email the head of this event for more information and possible a statement. —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! I will pass this information along and see how they wish to proceed. – VisionHolder « talk » 02:59, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Email me with their email address if you can (the one I can easily find on the site :P). —Mikemoral♪♫ 03:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Julian Assange article

Thanks for your style corrections. Could you change the title and review the article so that it can be published? The new development (the arrest warrant being quashed by the Chief Prosecutor) is very much breaking news so it needs to be published. Tamino (talk) 16:16, 21 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Are you quite sure that the 'Moon' is not a proper noun? Moon refers to any moon in general, but when the Moon is mentioned in the article, it is referring to a specific object, the moon of Earth. Tyrol5 (talk) 16:37, 21 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've learned moon is lowercase a while back, but there seems to be many disagreements on that. NASA lowercase and Wikipedia uppercase. I'd prefer using NASA's capitalization. Looking at the Google search results, it's about even between "moon" and "Moon." —Mikemoral♪♫ 16:42, 21 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've always thought that if moon is not capitalized, you're just referring to the moon in general, but if you are referring to the Moon (the one and only), it's capitalized; but that's just me. I can go either way, I just thought I'd bring it up. Tyrol5 (talk) 16:55, 21 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Usually, I think "moons" in general refers to any natural satellite orbiting a planet of other celestial body, but "the moon" is the Earth's moon. —Mikemoral♪♫ 16:57, 21 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To be quite honest, I think it's all about personal opinion and preference, one of those grammatical debates that can never be resolved. Tyrol5 (talk) 17:01, 21 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Original report tag?

This edit puzzles me a little //

Please consider either leaving more informative edit summaries on leads, (or restoring the 'original' tag.)

--InfantGorilla (talk) 19:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oh, sorry. I figured with an original tag right above it, it looked cluttered, should have noted that. —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You have a point! --InfantGorilla (talk) 07:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikinews Style Guide

Hi, I saw the recent style guide PDF that you posted, and in the description you said that you were looking for something "more stylish". I would be glad to help with the visual or general enhancement of the guide, if needed. red-thunder. 18:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The style guide I put together is meant to easy to read and can save a bit of color ink, being blank. But, of course, It's bland. I removed formatting and template stuff from the print version, leaving the section on article content in it. If oy u could make a more aesthetically please guide, I'd be very glad. —Mikemoral♪♫ 01:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • By all means Americanizzzze a copy of the SG in your userspace. But, you will provoke an edit war if you settle on consistent American spelling in the real document. (Plus, I'll ask the Canucks to go burn down the Whitehouse again - as a matter of honour). --Brian McNeil / talk 05:11, 21 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Ah, thanks. I'll use that in the future. Regards, WackyWacetalk 17:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No problem. :) —Mikemoral♪♫ 17:16, 6 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help with my wordiness!

Hello User:Mikemoral, I saw the review of my most recent article, and I have been trying my best to follow style guide regulations, but I know that I'm going to have trouble with being less wordy and more concise. My writing style, unfortunately, is very much like what you saw in the Kashmir article. I'm not sure how to make the article less wordy and more "news-y", as you put it, but that may be because I am too closely related to this article. Could you help a new user like myself figure out where to go with the article? Thanks.

Bkissin (talk) 11:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sure, I get the time today, I can copyedit the article. I didn't have time when I reviewed last night, but hopefully I do today. —Mikemoral♪♫ 01:35, 17 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pope Benedict article

Hi, can you help me with creating an article about Pope Benedict XVI leaving the United Kingdom after his papal visit to the country? Thanks --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 15:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry, I'll be way for most of the day. My apologies. —Mikemoral♪♫ 19:04, 19 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I have added all that I could find from sources and now it's a bit longer. Bobby122 Contact Me (C) 01:19, 4 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oops sorry about the breaking news thing, time ran away from me. Bobby122 Contact Me (C) 01:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh no problem. Thanks for fixing it so quickly. —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:02, 4 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Did you use a script to archive the articles tonight at exactly midnight UTC? --Pi zero (talk) 01:02, 5 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No, I just prepared them before midnight, then clicked save/protect. —Mikemoral♪♫ 01:19, 5 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hm. I'm guessing two tabs per article, one for the edits and one for the protection?
Well, I'm glad to hear it's not a bot. I've concluded it's better to have a sapient do archiving, 'cause there's no telling what peculiar circumstance might come up that a person could catch but a bot couldn't. (I do find some things that are fairly often still wrong after a week, like missing categories and misplaced {{publish}} tags, but I'm really looking for the unique problems).
BTW, since you weren't using the pseudo-bot flag, you'd need to sight a second time, after protecting. (I sighted them for you. Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine: it used to drive me crazy, before I was an admin, that I'd look at an archived article and it'd have this [review pending changes] button that I couldn't do anything about. :-) --Pi zero (talk) 02:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bah, I knew I forgot something. (It does bother me also when articles aren't sighted after archiving, but I was having a race against the clock for the sheer fun of it ;). I beat it too.) —Mikemoral♪♫ 03:32, 5 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


wb - Amgine | t 05:55, 16 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks. Was ultra-pissed. The ISP disconnected me by mistake (and bit of the city for that matter). Rep said I could reconnect anytime, but still needed to call some call center in India to finally be reconnected. Fours days without the internet sucked. (Done with rambling). —Mikemoral♪♫ 05:58, 16 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Lies. (done with bit) - Amgine | t 06:00, 16 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mexican politician Silverio Cavazos killed by gunmen

Hi there,

I have updated the last sentence as requested. Cheers,

Chandlerjoeyross (talk) 12:34, 23 November 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merry Christmas!

fetch·comms 23:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

An image for my article

Hi, Mikemoral. I would like to insert an image into my article entitled File:When-we-collide-matt-cardle.jpg. My problem is that this image is available only on Wikipedia, so I don't know how to get the image available on Wikinews. Please send me a message of response explaining how this image can be placed onto Wikinews as soon as you can. Thanks --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 22:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You can download that image to you desktop and upload it here with fair use rationale. I think you hould instead use a free image. This Flickr image is licensed freely, so we can use it here. (Image link) When I get a free moment, I'll upload to Commons, and I'll crop it later so we can get just Cardle not surrounded his audience. —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:35, 23 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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