User talk:Cspurrier/Archive2

Latest comment: 17 years ago by Cspurrier in topic User page, creds

Hi, I'm a newspaper publisher from Massachusetts (USA), but also a contributor to Wikinews. I'd be willing to help with the production of a print edition, if you needed me. I'll try to create one sometime this week, and upload it, to give you an example of how I would lay it out and produce it. I also e-mailed you about this. Sobar 21:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

This sounds great, I can always use help. Sorry about the slow reply, my real job has been keeping me busy :) --Cspurrier 21:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

worthless stubs

CSpurrier I just developed an article are you going to block me for "worthless stubs" like you said?

You were blocked after being asked/warned many times to stop. Any user is welcome to submit stories, however these stories should be of a sort that can easily develop (major world news, very well sourced stories with wide interest, etc) or they should be nearly complete when submitted. Creating stories that are very short, local news that you never return to is of no value to Wikinews. --Cspurrier 14:11, 18 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

ArbCom nomination

Hello Craig,

I've nominated you as part of the Wikinews:Arbitration Committee elections 2006. Please indicate whether you accept the nomination. Thanks,--Eloquence 04:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have accepted on the page, thanks --Cspurrier 14:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

blocking policy rule

thought i should inform you that i've removed the "troublemakers" rule in the blocking policy as there was no consensus to keep it.

i pointed out some problems with its current formulations (in between plenty of ranting :) )in the talk page and on this discussion, u might be interested in modifying the rule to address them. Doldrums 06:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

I dislike the wording, but I do not see a problem with it (or without it :) ). The rule is just restating the disruption portion, in a way that I think makes it slightly worse sounding but I do not believe it adds any new powers.--Cspurrier 15:25, 23 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

is this an improvement:

  • Disrupt the normal functioning of wikinews.

if you think it is, u might consider changing to it, i've done my share of reverts on blocking policy today. Doldrums 15:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

School IP addresses

I blocked for vandalism earlier, but a lookup on the IP states it as "Fairfax County Public Schools FCPS". I'm sure I've seen other IP pages where they listed what school or library the IP belongs to. It there a template for that to put on the IP (user or talk page?) and if the guy comes back would it be worth notifying FCPS? --Brian McNeil / talk 14:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Template:Sharedip can be placed on the user's talk page. Depending on the type of vandalism contacting the school can be very effective. --Cspurrier 15:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

RSS Feeds

I put together an RSS feed of the "Original Reporting" section. The feed is available at Also if you do not have an RSS reader, you can view a web based version of the feed at Wikinews Original Reporting RSS Feed Please let me know what you think. I will try to update it daily. Inic 04:22, 1 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hamas article

Look at the edits...what is the arabic language? what does that say? I have it copied...I just need a place to place it to be translated. Jason Safoutin 21:49, 28 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

no idea sorry --Cspurrier 22:38, 28 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

ArbCom outcome

Hello Craig,

you have come in 5th in the ArbCom election. The result is a tie with Ed Brown. Since we want to fill 5 seats, we have essentially three choices:

  • That one of you chooses not to serve
  • That both of you serve, and we expand the ArbCom to six members
  • That we hold a run-off election between the two of you.

Do you have a preference between these options?

I am leaving the same message on Ed's talk page.--Eloquence 22:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Expanding the arbcom sounds good to me, the more the merrier :) --Cspurrier 22:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
Hi Craig. If I am reading the vote results correctly, you and I are tied for the 4th and 5th spots on the committee. I have not yet responded to Eloquence because I wanted your reaction first. -Edbrown05 23:18, 31 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
Oops, I see now there were two 2nd ranked finishers. So, the Eloquence query is correct! hmmm... -Edbrown05 23:30, 31 January 2006 (UTC)Reply


The Arbcom selection process is completed, and you have been chosen by the community to serve in this role. Hopefully you won't have anything to do but twiddle your thumbs, but good on you anyway! - Amgine | talk en.WN 23:36, 31 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes, Congrats. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Feb. 2 print addition

Timely 'quote of the day' from Coretta King. -Edbrown05 05:52, 2 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Wikiquote does a good job :) --Cspurrier 15:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

As he shivers...

Craig, I'm going to ask you to justify your deletion on the Kubby article. It is well-sourced fact. Also, please consult the talk page. StrangerInParadise 18:44, 2 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

What part of well-sourced fact escapes you?! Still waiting for your explanation. StrangerInParadise 20:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

The part where it is actualy a well-sourced fact. Have a look at the talk page. Point me to a source that contains that "fact" --Cspurrier 20:52, 2 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

This just in,
"Let me tell you from my experience, that jail is cold!"
-Bill McPike, Attorney for Steve Kubby
He practices criminal law in that jurisdiction, so he knows. I want my sentence back.
StrangerInParadise 22:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Image:Jyllands-Posten Muhammad drawings.jpg

Hi Cspurrier... this image was a scan of a newspaper page, not a photo, and it has been accepted as fair use on Wikipedia. Are you sure that it is not acceptable? Um, is there any other way that we can have the Mohammad cartoons on Wikinews? Um, discussion on water cooler, probably. - Borofkin 22:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi Craig... any comments on this? - Borofkin 22:49, 8 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

I'd really like it if someone could actually explain how a thumbnail is ever not fair use. Nyarlathotep 23:44, 10 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

What Amgine siad on the WC is correct. Size of the image is only one small part of what makes an image fair use. --Cspurrier 23:46, 10 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
I would come to think that a comic that has ben posted on almost every major paper in the middle east and europe, and now in some schools in the U.S. that is very well is fair use. Also its size shopws no author, ads, or copyright info...I do not see what the problem is here...maybe the reason for this disagreement is someone is offended by it and thats why they do not want it up here? Jason Safoutin 23:50, 10 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
Most newspapers get photos from AP,AFP or a similar group. One of these groups have most likely negotiated a license to use the images, and it is via one of these groups the paper has obtained permission to publish the image. Schools and other educational uses such as encyclopedias ability to use fair use images is greater because they are not directly competing with a news organization. --Cspurrier 16:13, 11 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
Amgine's statment that "its much harder for us to claim fair use since we directly compete" made perfect sence. I just never understood how size couldn't override this. Oh, well, whatever. BTW, someone made a Hampster dance version [1]. lol Nyarlathotep 00:00, 11 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Confirming Meta adminship request

I am the same user as meta:user:cspurrier and b:user:cspurrier --Cspurrier 04:56, 7 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

I was thinking that it might make sense for you to make a little video showing how you do the print edition every day -- this could help people in the other language editions understand the process and create their own print editions, not to mention archiving your knowledge in case you'll ever stop maintaining the English one. There are a variety of tools in the external link section here for making screen recordings. On Windows, DemoStudio looks reasonable (I'm not sure which operating system you're on, so I'm guessing). What do you think -- are you up for giving it a try?--Eloquence 12:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Sounds like a good idea. Do you know of any good programs to do this for Linux? (I run Kubuntu) --Cspurrier 15:50, 7 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
I have a feeling that's going to be trickier. There's an overview at NewsForge. vnc2swf seems like the best solution, but I'm not sure if it's feasible to run both server and client on the same machine. I also found this proprietary tool which can be downloaded as a trial version. Perhaps a version without sound created with vcn2swf or xvidcap would be sufficient for now.--Eloquence 19:03, 7 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
You might look at Wink (, I believe).

Just following up

Did my response regarding 3RR answer your questions? StrangerInParadise 06:32, 18 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Request for Arbitration

Please enter your opinion as to whether the ArbCom should accept a request for arbitration in User: vs. User:Amgine. --Chiacomo (talk) 00:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Please enter your opinion as to whether the ArbCom should accept a request for arbitration in User:Brian New Zealand v User:Amgine --Chiacomo (talk) 05:27, 5 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

re the CC image of Mardi Gras?

can't it be used under a FAIR USE clause? --elliot_k 17:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Arbcom Mailing List

I have created an ArbCom mailing list on Google Groups (I didn't get a response when asking in #wikimedia-tech). Please send me a message from the address to which you wish to receive arbcom message. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:16, 7 March 2006 (UTC)Reply


you blocked someone and told them to go to this page: are you sure thats what you wanted? Bawolff ☺☻  21:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

WN Print Edition

I've noticed before, but haven't said anything until now, that my computer doesn't have the font 'BAAAAA + Veranda' installed. Therefore, the PDF file format of the print edition will not render properly for me. Is the font selection an unusual choice? Or, is my font support using the short list of available fonts? Best regards -Edbrown05 03:58, 12 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Veranda should be included with all Windows 98 and higher systems. --Cspurrier 15:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)Reply


Can you please take a look at WN:RfAr and make your comment on whether or not to accept the matter for arbitration - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 04:27, 15 March 2006 (UTC)Reply


Hi. I'm an Italian User, therefore pardon me for my grammatical errors...
I want to know what is your code that you use for the Bot: i want to use it on Italian Wikinews. I don't know like to do to create a page like you.
Sorry me for my errors, but I hope that you understand. Thanks Marco Zampo!!!(sorry me 4 my ignorance) 11:23, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

WN Print Edition

Can i help you in any way to make the print edition? It's a really good idea, and I would like to help it grow. ReporterFromAfar3136 23:10, 20 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I am glad to get any help I can, what sort of thing are you looking to do? --Cspurrier 15:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
I have no idea, although I am willing to help in any way, including making the paper on some days if you are gone. If you have any ideas on anything I could do, I'm game. ReporterFromAfar3136 20:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
I'd also be willing to help. I'm a newspaper publisher in Massachusetts (USA), and I'm always available to help with the production of the Wikinews Print Edition. If you want any help, just let me know. I also e-mailed you about this. Sobar 16:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Please repond to request for your recusal

Hey, please respond ASAP because the recusal policy Chiacomo showed me says; "The Arbitrator in question will seriously consider it and make a response."

In addition, the policy refers to the possibility of an arbitrator being "required" to recuse themselves for non-trivial matters. These are non-trivial bias indicators, therefore should you refuse the request; other Arbcom members will need time to decide whether the recusal is required. The request hit the site at 01:14, 22 March 2006 so hopefully you can respond right away.
Your bias is palpable,I think, as shown by the list of indicators (including your 6 month block of me and your on the record comments as to MrM's general innocence.:"... I believe the primary reason for this RfDA and the other attacks on MrM are not his actions on the site but that he holds an unpopular and somewhat odd :) political view --Cspurrier 23:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)") so I respectfully ask you to do the honourable thing here,Craig. It would appear quite arrogant, I think, for you to insist that yourself be on a panel to judge any arbitration to do with MrM; and especially one to do with me on the other side. I only comment in this tone because it has been some time since the recusal request was made and I worry that you may be planning on going out of process by ignoring the request. If you need more time to consider your response, it would be polite to at least say that on the arbitration talk page, it seems to me.
Policy requires you to respond before arbitration begins so please do not leave the community waiting any longer. Thanks in advance. Neutralizer 14:05, 23 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Audio Wiki News Briefs

I thank you very much for your support. I will try to provide a daily summary so at least this dusty page gets its healthy spray of Pledge. Phil-hong 01:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

speedy deletion

this is the one I wanted to check out to see if it meets one of the 11 reasons for speedy deletion; maybe you could have a look as well & lmk your opinion? 23:06, 25 March 2006 Lyellin deleted "Secret Societies & Occult Politics" (Essay, Copyvio, notnews - all speedy) Neutralizer 14:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Wikinews Accreditation

Now that the community has accepted my accreditation request, how do I go about getting my press card? - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 00:24, 28 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

it's a problem, it depends of the country, for example in France it's impossible. In France, you must be a paid professional journalist to get the Press Card, with journalist as MAIN activity. and you can't work for government : references for France : --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Divol (talkcontribs) User:Divol
Thanks :) - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 21:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

regional print editions

Hello Cspurrier! I don´t know, maybe the idea´s just rubbish, but what do you think about creating wikinews print editions for specific regions? So for example, in adition to the World print edition you are running with lots of time and brain potential spending on it, can we put a oceania print edition on the web? I´d like to hear your opinion on that. --Benedikt Kroll 04:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I would love to be able to offer a regional print edition, I do not however have the time to regularly create it. If you or any one else would like to create it, I would be glad to help --Cspurrier 15:24, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Craig, if we had the articles to be able to do that kind of thing, do you have some sort of template/guide you could write up on how to create print editions? I'm thinking if you aren't around and we wanted to start a regional, topical, or breaking news edition. Lyellin 19:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
I think that's a great idea. We should probably start with Australia, since they seem to be active. ReporterFromAfar3136 23:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Can´t we just take the sxw edition and edit it so that there is a regional one? Benedikt Kroll 05:19, 30 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

do not vandalise my talk page!!!

do not vandalise my talk page!!! 22:56, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Then leave your block warnings alone --Cspurrier 22:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
PLEASE GIVE ME A FRESH TALK PAGE!!! 23:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Audio Wikinews Question

I just recently read the discussion page on Audio Wikinews. Yikes. There was a complaint about the "annoying voice" and bad quality recordings that have been posted onto Audio Wikinews: News Briefs.

Which brings me to this question: Is my voice okay? I want to give an effort to revive the News Briefs as a voice that's likable so I'm not wasting anyone's or my time. Phil-hong 07:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I think your voice is fine. If you get a chance have a listen to some of the older Audio Wikinews: News Briefs. Some are very nice, others are less so --Cspurrier 18:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

RE:Thanks for doing the print editions while I was away

Great to hear! I've got the instructions for adding a release to the printcast here. Glad to see you're back :) --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 18:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Regarding my RfA

I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your support in my RfA. Thanks. irid:t 22:35, 10 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

equal block time

I don't really think that blocks necessarily need to be applied equally, especially in the Karn MrM type situation where one part was keeping her head and one was blowing his lid, but OTOH I've never really thought about the matter, so I may change my mind one day. Nyarlathotep 17:30, 19 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Umm, never mind, I just reread your comment, yes equal obnoxiousness ought to result in equal blocks, but Karen wasn't being obnoxious. Your comment peged my position exactly. Nyarlathotep 17:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Latest block addition

As you are the originating admin of the previous block of a user, I would like to bring this diff up with you to review the users' latest activity while blocked: [2]. I believe this will result in a more prompt action rather than being placed on WN:ALERT. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 01:27, 25 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

The case is a bit too unclear for me to reblock. --Cspurrier 13:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

MrM's trap

I suppose MrM laid a trap by putting an edit on my talk page and inviting me to "[insert Wikinews username here"]; since his edit was in a humourous vein I assumed he was playing around and, for healing purposes, decided to join in by accepting his suggestion to insert a user's name. He complained on admin alerts and so I reverted my edit[3]. Neutralizer 02:34, 1 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

would not consider it so much a trap as two people editing without thinking. MrM probably should have worded it differently and you should never have edited it. It is because of this I decided to not block. You need to remember, you never edit someone elese's signed comments, for any reason. --Cspurrier 13:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

RE: Print Edition

No problem, have a good time! :) --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 22:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for the welcome. --Schmitt 02:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

International Wikinews Writing Contest

Just a reminder that the IWWC starts tomorrow. Ral315 (talk) 10:39, 15 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Just a reminder you currently have one joker in the meta:IWWC2. Bawolff ☺☻  14:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)Reply


Actually there is a tie. 7 for 7 oppose and one abstain. Jason Safoutin 13:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

You would need min 70% to become an admin, and even that is lower then is preferred. --Cspurrier 14:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Wikinews print, and mania

Dear Craig,

Are you planning to come to Wikimania this year? I would like you to compose something about the wikinews print edition, which is somewhat unique across wikimedia projects; at least for presentation and discussion online, if not in person; one of the wikinewsies in attendance could speak about it if you cannot be there yourself.

Regards, Sj 04:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

I was thinking about a discussion of the process; how others could do the same; what feedback has been like. We could coordinate the discussion with a discussion of whether to produce other print media; of the article-of-the-day email, for instance. Sj 16:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
sorry likewise that the daily newslet didn't work out quite as planned. The first day's work was interesting, and shared digitally at least; but the layout didn't get done. I hope that wikinews can field a real delegation next year, with a distributed layout team, and an audio/video mixing team for live podcasts and videocasts. Now *that* would be something noone's ever done well. Sj 09:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Fumbled deletions

I'd be glad to host an undeletion request for Category:Politics. Of course, my vote would be neutral, but I will allow it to happen nonetheless. —THIS IS MESSED OCKER (TALK) 13:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

The polls are open. In seven days time, the undeletion request shall be closed, with the true consensus once and for all. —THIS IS MESSED OCKER (TALK) 14:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
I personally do not care, I just wanted to remind you of the seven day bit to prevent future complaints from people who do care :). --Cspurrier 14:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for the friendly welcome. Kunwon1 16:20, 26 May 2006 (UTC)Reply


This is a message to inform you that I have added every administrator to the Rfda section on WN:A. This is not personal and I feel as if the community, who did not have the option of voting for or against most of the administrators, should be able to choose who they want to be in charge. I also want to say that I value everyones work on this site and I know that everyone does their best. I hope that none of you will take this personally and I hope that all of us will continue to work together. Jason Safoutin 12:10, 27 May 2006 (UTC)Reply


Thank you for your message. I am currently new to Wikinews and have very little experience or idea on how to use Wikinews. I hpe you can help me. Anyhow thank you again for your message. alastor moody 13:45 (PTC)

Emergency de-sysop

Please remove my sysop status as soon as you recieve this message. Thank you. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

sorry, only stewards can do that--Cspurrier 21:25, 29 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
done, as requested on meta. oscar 22:44, 29 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Sysop/Bureaucrat rights

Hi. I restored your admin and bureaucrat rights that were removed by accident. -- IlyaHaykinson 03:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

i apologize: yes it was my mistake, thx for fixing it ilya and sorry for the inconvenience. oscar 11:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)Reply


I saw the disscusionon the main page here. So I thought I could ask you this. There is an article that I published, but it's from May 30. What should I do? FellowWikiNews 22:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

You can bump up the date if you want, or leave it with the date it has on it, both are supported by policy. --Cspurrier 22:54, 1 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Please review this Request for Administratorship.

I had nominated myself for Administratorship on the 24th of May. The current vote count is 13 supporting and 3 opposing. Please check [4] it and take any neseccary action. Thank you. PVJ   (Talk) 08:40, 2 June 2006 (UTC)Reply


Hi! You are now a checkuser here. Please apply to checkuser-l, the international checkuser mailing list (this is mandatory). Jon Harald Søby 21:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

To make things right

As a part of ArbCom you have selected and approved some users to do CheckUser permissions. This is done without any discussions, nominations or selection by Wikinews community. ArbComs part in this is not stated in any policy on Wikinews and this speedy and unauthoriced process can be seen as instructioncreeping. A fair posision in this case is to accept Wikimedia Foundation demand for allowing CheckUser permissions. It is that ArbCom approve them.

In ArbCom You now have selected these users. That is not a within ArbComs authotity. Whats done is a mistake and can easy be corrected by ArbCom. Declare this decision open and ask the community to select these users. The selection process is a buissnes for the whole Wikinews community and should be done by voting.

I must point to the importance of this. As I wrote in water cooler this can be a first step to make ArbCom to a kind of goverment body and this is not whats decided. I will go so far as to question the status of those of you, that dont work against a community based selection in this case, as elected representative in ArbCom or in worst case raise the question of ArbComs abolishing.

I hope that you solve this problem and make things right and dont put prestige in this in itself small thing. international 22:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have just finished reading the wikinews protocol sections and consensus is required. Please correct this situation which I assume you played no directive part within. Redman 22:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

I am sorry, but I do not really understand what you are trying to say, the community is welcome to suggest users. If you have user who you think should have checkuser rights, let an arbcom member know, and we can discuss it on the arbcom mailing list. I do not see how a bunch of voting would really help anything, according to the checkuser policy checkuser is granted based upon the decision of the Wikimedia board and the Arbcom not the consensus of the community. A public nomiantion page would probably have been good, but when it comes down to it I do not think it would have mattered much.--Cspurrier 00:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

I think you have to understand. If you disagree then just discuss the subject. I would prefer that you discuss it whith the other ArbCom members to make a decision to undo ArbComs last decision and then we can start the selection of checkuser authoriced wikinewsies in a proper way. international 01:17, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
Or be free to ask me about what you dont understand on my talkpage international 01:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
I guess I am not sure I understand what you think should be done, and what good you think that action will do --Cspurrier 01:34, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
"and we can discuss it on the arbcom mailing list." Better discuss on wikipages for the sake of transparity. international 01:36, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

My proposal what to do

  1. . Change, Nullify or revert the decision about who will reperesent Wikinews with Checkuser rights.
  2. . Wait to the community have selected suitable users for the purpose.
  3. . Approve (or not) the selected users.

Very easy and in spirit with how Wikinews usually fix things like this. international 01:44, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Username change request

Greetings! I'm a Wikipedia admin, and I've recently changed my username there to counter the trend of vandals digging for personal info on admins, in order to disrupt their non-wiki lives. I'd like to do the same here - can you please change my username to User:BD2412? Cheers! BD2412 T 08:14, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Done --Cspurrier 14:08, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! BD2412 T 18:53, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Reply


Go to Jason's talk page for the discussion. FellowWikiNews 19:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Reply


Wanna hear a joke? Wazzawazzawaz 15:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

I see you're editing. Why wont you answer me??? Wazzawazzawaz 15:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
Do you have something against me????? Wazzawazzawaz 15:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
I have not replied, because you have not written anything worth replying to. Wikinews is for writing and reading news, not joke telling or other random chatter. If you have a question or comment that is actually about Wikinews, let me know and I will be glad to reply to it, --Cspurrier 15:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

You know, people a just so rude these days, I ask if I can tell you a friendly clean joke to brighten up your day and in effect you only response was "Shove it up your ass." I can tell you, you really did NOT brighten up MY day. Wazzawazzawaz 15:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Take a look at yourself man. You just go along making edits while completely ignoring me. So much for a good editor I can look up too. Wazzawazzawaz 15:57, 20 June 2006 (UTC)Reply


I didn't know beurcrats could make other people burecrats. I thought they could only make them admins. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻  04:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Former U.S. soldier charged with rape, murders

Recently, there was a move war and plenty of things got out of hand. In fact, the article ended up deleted and I had to work to restore the article. I protected the page and the talk page from moves to help prevent it from happening again. Since you are capable of moving pages as an administrator, please, do not rename the article until we can settle on a permanent name, because things really went bad. —THIS IS MESSED OCKER (TALK) 22:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have decided on a possible name to settle on for Former U.S. soldier charged with rape, murders. Please state on the talk page if you agree with the proposed name or not. —THIS IS MESSED OCKER (TALK) 00:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Article title strawpoll

Please participate in the strawpoll for the final title of US soldier charged with family's murder and rape and killing of their daughter, Iraq. —this is messedr͏̈ocker (talk) 19:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)Reply


Don't confuse me with WoW, even though I'm on the same IPs as him (and some hoaxers who got past my firewall!). If you check my contributions you will see they are legitimate. --Gold-Horn 08:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

MyName has a question

See User talk:MyName#Message for MessedRocker to relay to Cspurrier. —this is messedr͏̈ocker (talk) 23:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

london bombing anniversary

can u dig up a picture or two for this article. it's a good candidate for second or third lead, i think. Doldrums 19:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Reply


I have temporarily unblocked myself to leave you this message. I will block myself after I am done so as to fulfil the 24 hour block. Incidentally Ealturner was also involved in the edit-war and broke the 3 revert rule, as I had mentioned (along with a diff link) a few lines below the complain against me on WN:ALERT. Though still a little confused as to how you did not notice the aforementioned link provided by me, I ask that you block Ealturner for a similar 24 hours based on this evidence-

1)First Revert 2)Second Revert 3)Third revert 4)Fourth Revert 5)Fifth Revert

PVJ   (Talk)(Opinions) 07:05, 8 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. In any case this entire issue got too heated and I did a few things that were unreasonable. Anyway, it will not happen again. PVJ   (Talk)(Opinions) 03:50, 9 July 2006 (UTC)Reply


Don't worry about them - they're permanently banned from using the computers now, so no more nonsense from them. --Gold-Horn 11:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Glad to hear it, if you can tell us more about the situation (is the ip that of a library, school, public wifi point, etc), it becomes much easier to avoid future blocks.--Cspurrier 20:01, 8 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

It's actually 4 public computers in Southport, Merseyside. (And I've blocked Wikinews in the HOSTS file on Windows XP on the network, by redirecting the address to another website using the IP address of this site!! Heh! Always a good trick) --Gold-Horn 22:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Blocking may cause unintended problems


  • I noticed since my return how the comfort level and tone among active editors had improved noticably since May with all active contributors now being more agreeable and cooperative with each other. I am concerned that the blocks of MyName and PVJ59 move us in the other(negative) direction regardless of the justifications for the blocks...especially if Ealturner is not also blocked for 3rr. Perhaps you could unblock them for "time served" and if problems continue it's likely they can be ironed out by the community without blocks or,as a last resort, some other admin will block whoever needs blocking.
  • Also, as a Bureaucrat who is on ArbCom, I suggest that it's better if you can leave the blocking to other admins because it is crucial that our Bureaucrats and ArbComers be on a totally friendly and "above reproach" plane with all non-vandals.
Interesting opinions :). I disagree with several of them, but I am glad you shared, they made me think. If no one would do anything that requires a block, then we would have no need for blocks. There has been a lot of debate blocks have on Wikipedia and also in our CRJ system in regards to jail time. My views on blocks are the same as my views on jails in our CRJ system, we punish people not so much because we expect them to reform but because it shows that society does not approve. I believe this society disapproval and partly fear of punishments discourages bad/criminal behaviour. If we do not punish those who commit bad acts, we are saying that we as a society approve of them. I also greatly prefer blocking to page protection, our only other real option in an edit war, page protection punishes everybody, blocks only stop those who need to be stopped.

The idea that Arbcom members and bureaucrats should be totally friendly and "above reproach" is good one and one I agree with, however I disagree with how it should be achieved. I believe this is best achieved by being active and involved and doing the right thing. I know some users probably including your self do not believe I am totally friendly and "above reproach". I am sad that this is the case, bu I believe it is somewhat unavoidable. --Cspurrier 20:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

I think you're friendly but sometimes forgetful like all of us. For what it's worth, Canada's sentencing averages are about half what they are in the US for the same types of crimes and Canada's recidivism rate is also about half what it is in the US (even less for young offenders). Obviously there are other factors but it does seem sensible that long incarcerations might make people less able to function when they finally get out. What's the deal with MyName? What did he do wrong? to be "punished" for? Neutralizer 04:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
The US criminal justice system is awful, but it does work well enough to function. More focus on rehabilitation would be very beneficial, as I believe Canada does. Prisons in the US often make criminals worse then when they went in.
MyName is/was blocked as part of an ip block. The ip was blocked after it was used for vandalism.

MyName claims to be a reformed vandal, and crated an account for trolling slightly before the block. It is very likely (98%) that MyName is the vandal or is sharing a computer with the vandal. The ip is perm blocked on pedia for using abusive sock puppets. If MyName is not the vandal he is in the best place to have the vandal dealt with, basically unless he can get the vandalism to stop. he will probably continue to blocked as the vandalism occurs. --Cspurrier 22:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC) My 2 ¢ in regards to blocking is that it's not a bad thing when done properly and equally as stated in the 3RR policy. The benefit you seek, a demonstration by the community that any particular action is bad, is lost in this case because the message given by the long block is that one can get away with a 3RR violation if someone else has other violations - the riot police are busy elsewhere. Clearly the benefit of an immediate short block outweighs the long late block from the demonstration of community right/wrong standpoint, especially in view of the goal to educate instead of punish when possible. But since blocking is an all-or-nothing action, it's a more punitive action when used over a longer term. An even larger problem with punitive action before versus education is that when the actions are done without comment (besides the "You are blocked" on the user's talk page), the community really doesn't know why. "Admin action alert doesn't say who was blocked by whom, nor why - at least for the editing violations on this story. Karen 21:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Will you consider posting on Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts to alert admins of actions such as blocking? My confusion in the matters there are increased by admin action alerts being made and admin actions taken, but the actions taken not documented. Karen 07:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

I will try to next time, though admins should really be watching the block log. --Cspurrier 22:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Fair use

Would you like to elaborate why "Mumbai bombing 2006.jpg" was deleted? "Created by other news org" is not a valid argument against fair use. Before you answer, take a second look at the four fair use factors. ;-) --Jambalaya 22:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Please see the bold portion of our Fair use policy.--Cspurrier 22:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Neutralizer 3rr

Does the 3rr apply to the mainpage headline?

Neutralizer keeps changing the tagline to a non-neutral POV. I've reached my 3 reverts. Can I keep changing if I phrase it differently each time? I'd thought that would break the spirit of the 3rr. Neutralizer has about six reverts. This is what I meant about the 3rr being unenforcable. But I'll give it a go here. What can I do? What can you do? [5]Ealturner 02:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Can I note disruptive behaviour from Neutralizer in this thread. [6] Two or three of us worked as a team to fine tune this huge article, get it NPOV, sourced, everything attributed, facts, images, different sections lots of content.- It seems the first thing Neutralizer did when he saw it was slap a NPOV and develop tag. The article had no POV. All statements were attributed. It was a very good article. Frivolous and disruptive behaviour that was not respectful to the hours of work we put in getting the article ready. As I will tell him, I would have preferred Neutralizer to have stated his problems on the talk page or made changes himself rather than to send it to develop and NPOV. I'm furious and not a little dishearted. Ealturner 02:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Neutralizer 3rr title violation


On the day after concensus reached. Against protests in discussion. Ealturner 13:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Please also note Neutralise "NPOV'd" this article[8]. There were no complaints for hours before the article was made top headline.

Neutralizer calls the title "Totally 1 sided as well as inflammatory and sensationalist"

The title is "Israeli railroad station bombed. 8 killed, 23 injured"

Please do something about this individual. He is making work impossible. I don't want to leave but I will not take much more of this. Ealturner 13:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Neutralizer has not violated the 3rr on Hezbollah-Israel conflict continues, Israel threatens Syria with"an offensive with disastrous consequences.". He made one change and 3 reverts, if he reverts again he is then violating the 3rr--Cspurrier 14:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

I was not aware there was a distinction between a change and a revert. A fellow administrator had previously warned me that a change I made was a revert. I am incredibly exasperated with all this. Ealturner 16:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

For it to be a revert, it has to be changed to be the same as an earlier version. His first move was something new, then you reverted, then he did and so forth. --Cspurrier 17:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

PVJ: Harassment notice and 3rr violation; edit protected page II

PVJ left a harassment notice on my talk page. [9]

I find this unnecessary. My second request for deadministration was based on the fact he broke the three revert rule. This is a third abuse to add to his previous two abuses. The de-admin request was removed by another admin, Amgine, who said PVJ had abused his editor privilege. When I made the request I was not aware of the difference. To abuse the rules of wikinews when one is an administrator is surely to abuse one's position as administrator also? The let off for his two administrator abuses has emboldened him. Ealturner 17:44, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Adding another rfda so soon after the last one is not really allowed, so Amgine did the right thing in removing it. Under our current policy rfdas are only for abuse of admin functions, abuses of editor functions can be dealt with by the dispute resolution methods such as arbcom. I would highly recommended you consider one of them. I also find his harassment notice to be inappropriate, but there is not really anything to be done about it.--Cspurrier 18:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
PVJ made four reverts Civilian casualties increase as Israel-Hezbollah conflict continues. The page was subsequently protected; this stopped us all from continuing to tell the news. Ealturner 18:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
I have blocked him for 24hrs for this. --Cspurrier 18:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
Yay... an editor situation dealt with accordingly. -Edbrown05 18:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

The above page was protected by an administrator because PVJ broke the three revert rule. Now PVJ has since edited the protected page to leave the following

"Sysops please note:This article has been protected due to edit-warring."

Since the protected page was disabled to editors there was no need to edit it. It is another example - fourth - of PVJ abusing his administrator powers.Ealturner 19:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Did PVJ unblock himself to add this note? Edited to answer: probably not as he edited it at 17:17 p.m. Ealturner 19:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
I had provided suitable reasons for those edits Cspurrier. I do not think they count as 3RR violations. PVJ59 Opinions  06:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
The justification for a revert is irrelevant as far as the 3rr goes, all reverts count. Reverts even with a good reason are considered harmful, hence the reason for the 3rr. --Cspurrier 14:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

POV "hizbollah crossed the border to kidnap the two soldiers"

I do not see anywere these rules you just invented yet. This is about neutralisation. I agree that no new information from the last few days should be added to this article, but it is still allowed to neutralise it. And it needs to, because the informations it contains are not necessarily true (the fact that Hizbollah crossed the border to kidnap the two soldiers) So, even if you don't want this "information" to be removed, the minimum would be to tell it using the conditional form. Could you please do it and turn the problematic sentence this way?

Thank you for not answering my question. It is so nice to see that you don't give a fuck to my concerns...

I have not yet answered your question, not because I do not care but rather because of a lack of free time, my real world commitments have kept me very busy for the last few days. We do not edit published articles. According to WN:NOT “Wikinews articles are not works in progress. Once written and published they are historical documents; they should not continue to be updated or changed. Especially, they should not be altered to an angle or POV not reflective of the article as it was published.”--Cspurrier 18:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
Well I understand this point of view, but There are other rules in wikinews that should allow small changes in published articles, such as in [10]/
  • Wikinews is written from a neutral point of view. Where-ever possible, all points of view should be presented providing they are referenced and are on-topic, with appropriate context given to how widely the points of view are held.
  • Wikinews is factual. Articles should deal only with facts and their verifiable consequences. There is neither conjecture nor personal opinion of the author(s).
Also in [11]:
  • Do not promote any particular viewpoint even when it is scientifically proven or widely accepted. Simply report and explain it along with disagreements.
And finally in [12]:
  • Wikinews articles are not press releases. There are a variety of press release aggregators online who provide this service; check the Reference desk (or try News sources on wikipedia) for links to some of them. Wikinews articles address the 5 Ws and H where possible, and attempt to present newsworthy articles which are balanced and have multiple sources, which press releases by definition do not.
  • Possible measures in response to violations of these rules: Changing the content of an article (normal editing).
See ? ;) I think these rules are more important (especially those relative to NPOV) that the one that states "published article SHOULD not be edited".
I just mean that the edits I submit are minor, do not change significantly the containts of the article, but are very important for neutrality. If you think adding the POV that the soldiers may have been captured on the libanese territory is too radical, then at least it should be used the conditional form when saying they were kidnaped on the israeli territory. It is not too extensive and it would bring a lot for neutrality.

RfA :(

Thanks for voting on my RfA. Unfortunately a consensus was not reached. Anyway, thanks for voting. MyName 01:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

BTW, this message is the same for everyone :)



You seem like quite the "welcoming" guy lately :p MyName 02:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

locked out

Craig, i understand you are a buracrat on wikinews. could you reset the password of User:Tomos per the discussion on my talk page. Tomos locked out! 03:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

know anything about this?

Talk:First wife of candidate for Canada's Liberal leadership speaks out. u're supposed to have recieved an audiofile of the interview. Doldrums 15:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

It was sent to me, but I have not had a chance to listen to it, I am at Wikimania and am therefore a bit busy :)--Cspurrier 17:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)Reply



Hi there. I noticed your bot has missed labeling articles made in the month of november, 2004 as PD. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻  08:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

More then just Nov :). I still have a few months that have not been done, but I lost the list of what I have done, so I need to make a new list of pages to tag. --Cspurrier 14:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)Reply


I know that Paraguayo is the same person as -chileno. I was going to list it at admin action alerts but I did it after. [13] But, when Amgine left the message on my talk page I cleared out the alert that I put. My apologies for making that mistake. I'm sorry for everything that I've done wrong. I am now considering leaving the project. FellowWikiNews (W) 02:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

No worries :) --Cspurrier 03:23, 26 August 2006 (UTC)Reply


Hi, I heard that there is a feature of Wikinews administrators which enable admins, like myself, to rollback or revert an edit with a "click of a button", is that true? --Nzgabriel | RfA | Talk 06:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes, just go to a diff link and you should see it. --Cspurrier 15:33, 31 August 2006 (UTC)Reply


Hi, I'm sure it's a dumb question, but what actually constitutes a "revert"? Is it when I take the article completely back to where it was before? Is a title change a revert? What if it's changed to slightly different wording than what it was before? Thanks. Neutralizer 14:30, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

A revert has no clear definition. Taking the article completely back to where it was before is definitely a revert. Partial reverts are where things get messy, reinserting the same element again would probably count as a revert. For example if you put one of the Abu Ghraib photos in the article and some one else removes it, and you reinsert a different Abu Ghraib photo, it would probably count as a revert. However if instead you put a picture of a boat, it would probably not count as a revert. --Cspurrier 14:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Dispute Resolution begun

Hi, hopefully this will help us get along better in the future. I hope you will agree to participate. Neutralizer 02:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

I am not going to be able to reply to for a few days, but I wanted to let you know I am aware of it and I will respond to it when I get some time. --Cspurrier 02:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Wikinews press card

Hi, I recently qualified to be a credentialed reporter. Would you know how I can go about getting a press card? I'm thinking of going to a conference this week and covering it for wikinews so a card would help! Thanks. Crimson 22:00, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

The template is {{Accredited reporter}}. I think you need to contact an admin to get your Press Papers.
User: Messedrocker should have them. Jason Safoutin 21:49, 17 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

The bot

Can your bot do something for trying a slightly compact version of the front page? I'd need the same as on the Latest news2 I created for Sept. 17, it gives us 7 days on the main page with only 2 fully expanded. Cuts a lot of the length when combined with my other "compressions". --Brian McNeil / talk 20:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Needn't bother with that, with some help from Doldrums, I think you might want to look at my alt design again, I've done away with the need for the Year/Month/Day/Latest news via use of the {{#time:}} Parser function. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Very cool --Cspurrier 17:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)Reply


You have revealed here that you used Checkuser on two suspected sockpuppets (User:Amgines and User:Abba). What is anomalous, however, is the fact that there has (apparently) been no request for Checkuser to be used on these accounts. I understand that your actions were devoid of malicious intent, but please keep in mind the fact using Checkuser against a user with whom you are involved in a dispute is not encouraged as per policy. I suggest you apologise to Neutralizer for your actions. Thanks. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written)   05:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

A RFCU is not required according to m:CheckUser. RFCU is the place for checkusers to be requested not the place to log checkuser requests. I ran the checkuser myself because I do not consider myself in dispute with Neutralizer. My interactions with Neutralizer have been minimal for the past few months. I honestly have no idea why he decided to start a DR.P.S. Sorry about the late reply school and work have been keeping me busy--Cspurrier 16:27, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Let's use your bot instead

Hey Craig, I've decided to withdraw my bot's RFA because your bot is already equipped with the necessary doodads, so once User:Messedrocker/pagelinks is a blue link, it'll contain a list of archived articles. —this is messedrocker (talk) 11:33, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Okay, the list should be complete by now. Anyways, what I'd like is for your bot to tag the bottom of articles with {{archive}}. —this is messedrocker (talk) 12:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
The bottom? Hmmm, I've tagged Category:September 25, 2006 to see what Category:Archived looks like, and assumed the template would go at the top. That would be a bit more tricky for the bot as it has to go after the date template and any infobox template, but before pictures. I can't guarantee that the older ones are well enough formatted to allow a bot to fix them. I'll do Category:September 26, 2006 with the tag at the bottom then we can see what people prefer. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:12, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
I tagged about 200 and it looks as if everythign went ok. I will run the bot on the rest over the next few weeks. --Cspurrier 20:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Print eddition and mediterainian food article

Theres an anon who wants to add something to it or something like that - see Post-scriptorium on mediterain diet (or something like that, I'm using lynx so I proabblly got the name slightly worng). Happy editing. 05:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC) - user:BawolffReply

It's me the anon ;-))) but I don't want to add anything on the actual article because it won't be printed again since the date is yesterday's one. 05:20, 15 October 2006 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for the message and for the reply about the RfA page. :) Now Steven became an admin, so I'm satisfied. :) NCurse 20:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

My RfA

Thank you! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Northern Ireland

Thanks, Craig! It's funny with a quality article coming from an Irish Republican like me...--TUFKAAP 22:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Blocked for Open Poxy Use

I'm sorry for using an open proxy. But I'm currentally living in SaudiArabia (moved from India 4 months ago) and the only way to acess Wikinews is through proxy. What should I do? 19:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

P.S. I'm the user with he arabic name.
Our (Wikimedia) policy prohibits the use of open proxies and we block them on site. However if you can find an open proxy that is not blocked, you are welcome to use it provided you behave in a productive manor and avoid sock puppeting. --Cspurrier 20:39, 24 October 2006 (UTC)Reply


I have decided to leave the project in view of the increasing support for my being de-sysoped. I wish you all the best, and thank you for your support and encouragement. Best regards. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written)   10:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Have problem need help

I am webmaster of [] and also recently created an account User:RAWA in Wikinews to share some of the news items here. But the news item 11-year-old girl is abducted and raped by Afghan criminals has been tagged for copyrights violations. Don't know how to go so in future could solve the issue. I use the email address is official address of RAWA also posted on our web site and it has already been verified. Please help. RAWA 09:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

It looks like you have been confirmed to be webmaster of, so there is nothing else you need to do --Cspurrier 15:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

My RfA

  Cspurrier, Thank you for participating in and supporting my recent RfA, which passed with a final tally of 6/2/2. This is a great achievement for me - and I cannot express what it means to me to become an administrator. If you need a helping hand with anything, don't hesitate to contact me! --Skenmy(tcwi) 16:22, 4 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Re: Edit Summary

I reverted because it (imo) looks better on the top. Next time I will try to explain why in my edit summary, especially when editing the main page :) FellowWikiNews (W) 19:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Craig's bot blocked

The bot displayed some weird behaviour and was blocked to prevent further damage, discussed at WN:AAA.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 01:24, 12 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Specificly it has problems with some (I'm presumbing unicode) characters. it seems to be escaping them as ? marks instead of using %hh in url/using unicode in url, or whatever its supposed to do to escape them. Bawolff 01:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
As you guessed it is a unicode issue. I think I have the bug fixed. I was logging them as they happened and fixing them by hand. I would like to apologize to everyone for leaving the bot running unattended, I got called away and forgot about it. Blocking it was definitely the best thing to do in a case like this. I am going to run it a bit more, now that the bug is fixed and I am back at my pc. --Cspurrier 03:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Talk-page protection

I wasn't too keen on protecting my talk either, but it seems that's the only way to stop trolls like this one from wasting our time. Zeest(Talk)(Newpages)   16:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

The best way to deal with true trolls is to ignore them. However there is no reason to believe is the same user as the one who you protected your talk page for. Talk pages should never be fully protected and only very rarely semiprotected. --Cspurrier 18:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
That vandal wasn't me. I didn't troll, I didn't vandalize and I didn't engage in a personal attack - I talked about User:PVJ59's behavior and his extemist POV that harms the project - not his persona. The talk pages are here for constructive talk, and as an admin you should invite and facilitate that in order to improve content quality. If you are unable to engage in constructive talk, or take responsibility for your actions, you are unfit to be an admin. ←Humus sapiens ну? 21:21, 17 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Adminship thanks

Hi there! I'd like to thank you for your support to become an admin, it's greatly appreciated! -- Zanimum 14:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Shail Patel article

Why would you delete that article? I hadn't even put my sources on it yet! --Jtaillon 19:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

CheckUser Question

Hey, Cspurrier. I've been reading around on Meta, and I came across the CheckUser policy. Wikinews currently has 3 users with Checkuser status. How is this possible? Checkuser policy says that two must be elected per consensus? Sorry about the tech question, Thunderhead - (talk) Congrajulations to Kat! 07:59, 22 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merry Christmas!

  Merry Christmas, Cspurrier/Archive2! I have really enjoyed working with you this year, and I am honestly looking forward to another year just like it. Wikinews is a great community, and I am really excited to be a part of it. Again, Merry Christmas! Thunderhead  

Merry Christmas!

File:Santa arrest.JPG
HO HO HO! These people got no presents from me this year.
FellowWikiNews is whishing thou a Merry very pegan Christmas , Seasons Greetings, Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah, or whatever thou calls it, and
realised they had purposefully forgotten about thou. This user is completely thoughtless, doesn't care about Season's Greetings,
and therefore DEMANDS you have yourself a Merry Christmas... NOW!

Failure to comply will result in going to jail with Santa. (Note: Santa is Satan spelt backwards)!

Christmas Story (Children Friendly):

So kids, is Santa Democrat or Republican??!

Often depicted as an obese man wearing a tasteless red, ermine trimmed suit, Santa Claus is a self-employed Caucasian male who's been married to the same woman for several centuries. It appears likely that he is a churchgoer, insofar as he is a Catholic saint and a former bishop. It has to be assumed here that Claus was released from his vows, or else he would not have been married.

Frequent arguments have erupted over the political affiliation of Claus. Ten years ago, Dick Cheney inadvertently dealt a savage blow to the morale of the Republican Party when he misidentified the political affiliation of Santa Claus in his best-selling book, Parliament of Whores. "Santa Claus," he said, "is a Democrat." However it is perfectly obvious from his demographic profile alone that Santa is in fact a Republican.

This assessment is often rebutted by Democrats with Anne-McCaffery counter-analysis: Santa Claus has no children. High-achieving professionals without children trend Democratic. While the Clausian canon does not specifically address the issue of Santa's children, numerous extra-canonical sources suggest that Claus did, in fact, reproduce. Numerous Christmas TV movie specials alone support this point.

Santa is renowned for an aggressive adherence to a binary naughty/nice list, which suggests an impatience for nuanced moral positions that betrays his Republican preferences. Santa's mere willingness to define individuals along a naughty/nice axis demonstrates his indifference to the philosophical stance of, say, The New York Times. And note that no canonical or extra-canonical Clausian text indicates that Santa ever attended college or, God forbid, graduate school.


FellowWikiNews approves of this story.

Merry Christmas!


Merry Christmas! Wishing you all the best for the forthcoming year. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC) Reply

dit-dit-dit-ditto...Sj 21:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

User page, creds

Dear Craig, two things: you should update your user page to note the year of the first paragraph :-), and I could use another image of a press badge. I'll be attending the chaos communication congress next week, and would like to attend their press conference and give them due coverage in English. Sj 21:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I am visting family right now so I only have my laptop. I do not have any copies of the press badge templates with me, but Messedrocker might be able to make you one. --Cspurrier 09:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
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