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Human Rights Watch: concern for exploited children in Senegal remains
editWith deep regret, I have to say, this one seems to have gotten away from us. Unless there's something you can do to freshen it, of course, but I'm not sure how that would happen, here. See my review comments, and detailed history of edits during review.
I'm really hoping you can get a whole lot of experience out of this article, because really, the most effective way to avoid long review processes on en.wn is to submit clean copy that passes its first review, and to do that, there's no substitute for experience. --Pi zero (talk) 16:10, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
I put deep thought into this review. Please see my review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 12:43, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi there!
Thanks for your article! Unfortunately, it's not ready to be published. I've left some comments on the talk page, but I thought I'd also give you some tips:
- Articles on Wikinews need to be at least three paragraphs in length.
- The page also needs some categories. These can be added to a page by adding [[Category:Australia]], for example. You can also use "HotCat", which adds a easy interface for adding categories. You can enable it in your preferences. Generally, we try to add, at a minimum, a category for "where" (e.g. Australia), and "who" (e.g. Category:Westboro Baptist Church). We also add at least one top-level category from the list at Category:News_articles_by_section.
- The headline is too vague — you can see our guidelines here. A good headline tells you who, what, and where the news headline happened -- so maybe "Westboro Baptist Church no show at Australian high school play" would be better. You can rename articles using the drop-down next to the edit button; this might not work if your account is too young (if I recall correctly, four days). If this is the case, just drop someone a note and they'll move it for you. Microchip08 (talk) 07:04, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
I've marked this article not ready on the grounds of it being effectively {{single source}}, as both sources share an author. Thinking about this, it seems a great chance to grab some original reporting. The school has contact details here, both general and specicifcally for the principal. Westboro take media requests via an email listed here.
I'm not sure exactly how your Wikinews articles tie in with your course grades, but I suspect Crtew (talk · contribs) would be very pleased to see some OR done on your own initiative. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 20:37, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- (Remark: Crtew is the other class we've got submitting articles here lately. :-) --Pi zero (talk) 21:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- <blinks> That he is. And on the other side of the world. I'm confusing myself :P BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 21:55, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm on it. I've got a short statement from the principle confirming that the photograph tweeted by WBC is a student and was part of the performance. He also confirmed Westboro did not attend the school production at all. I'm also trying to get in touch with WBC by email. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kad388UOW (talk • contribs)
- Cool! For an example of how I tend to deal with this kind of OR (getting statements), see here. Basically, I cut out the email headers and supply the full body of the messages on talk, and forward to scoop as well [scoop AT wikinewsie DOT org]. Good luck :) BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 16:29, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! I emailed WBC last night, I didn't get a response but the tweets from last week appear to have been removed since last night - I have been trawling back and forth on their twitter feed looking for them - and they had tweeted that they would picket the school tomorrow. So I emailed again with further questions about why they would picket the school on a Saturday and if they were aware that according to the school's calendar, the performance was a one-off as well as a question about the photograph they had tweeted on the 2nd, but although it looks like I have had an effect on them, I haven't received any response to my questions. Kad388UOW (talk) 01:46, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- If they still haven't replied they probably won't ever. I'd say the material you have is good enough. The OR statement from the principal is sufficient corroborative evidence for sourcing and lets us get a quote in, and the additional observation that stuff has vanished from the WBC Twitter is a nice exclusive touch to add too. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 16:40, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- Email correspondence with Margaret River Senior High School Principle:
Sent Thursday April 3 2014
I am a journalism student from the University of Wollongong, and I have recently published an article on wikinews about Westboro's threats to picket your school's performance of the Laramie Project. I am preparing a second article to report on their failure to appear and wanted to give you the opportunity to comment on the lack of follow through.
Also, could you please confirm for me that the attached image is a student performing and not a WBC member? The image was tweeted by the group with text to the effect of 'westboro pickets Margaret River High School'.
I am also contacting WBC for comment and would greatly appreciate your input.
Thank you,
Received Thursday April 3 2013
Hi
I can confirm that this is an image from the play and not a protest by the WBC. The WBC did not attend the school at anytime during the Play production
- What we need is explained here. (At least, I don't think I left anything out.) --Pi zero (talk) 13:32, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you, I thought I had sent it to scoop, but I went back and checked and it turns out I had mistyped the email address. I'll fix all that up straight away. Thank you all for all your help, I'm really learning a lot Kad388UOW (talk) 02:33, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- I see the emails on scoop now. Hopefully, if someone else doesn't review the article sooner, I may be able to review it in the morning (which probably means after you go to bed tonight; the timezone difference between here and Australia is brutal). I've learned never to promise to review an article, because, well, stuff happens. I do hope, though. :-) --Pi zero (talk) 03:06, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'll understand if you don't get to it. Honestly, I'm just excited about doing a little original reporting. Kad388UOW (talk) 03:12, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- Published. Cool. review comments. I see that also made three published articles related to The Laramie Project, and BRS created a category for it. (Three published articles is our usual threshold for creating a cat.) --Pi zero (talk) 14:14, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you! I've read the review comments and taken note. Thanks again for all the guidance. Kad388UOW (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- Published. Cool. review comments. I see that also made three published articles related to The Laramie Project, and BRS created a category for it. (Three published articles is our usual threshold for creating a cat.) --Pi zero (talk) 14:14, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'll understand if you don't get to it. Honestly, I'm just excited about doing a little original reporting. Kad388UOW (talk) 03:12, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- I see the emails on scoop now. Hopefully, if someone else doesn't review the article sooner, I may be able to review it in the morning (which probably means after you go to bed tonight; the timezone difference between here and Australia is brutal). I've learned never to promise to review an article, because, well, stuff happens. I do hope, though. :-) --Pi zero (talk) 03:06, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
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editHi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikinews pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four w:tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the w:Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! Microchip08 (talk) 08:19, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! I didn't know that! Kad388UOW (talk) 01:47, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- You can also indent lines using
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, which makes things easier to read on talk pages (as everything has a thread). :-) Microchip08 (talk) 01:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- You can also indent lines using
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