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The Link To Japanese Version is IncorrectEdit

It should link to "メインページ" instead of "ソースを表示".

Fixed. FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 23:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Four not fourth!Edit

Glaring mistake on Alan Johnston's section.

Done, thanks for pointing this out. Thunderhead 08:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Title misleads a littleEdit

Should have said "Iran: We will also take 'illegal actions' if UN imposes sanctions". At least that's what says in the content.-- 17:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Why is MuslimWikipedia on the front pageEdit

On the main page, just before the "March 25" heading, there is the text:

[ WikiNews]

Just like that. It's not a link, and those square brackets are visible. I guess this is a glitch. Bill3 15:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

It was vandalism on the page Wikinews:2007/March/26. We should watch out for such vandalism hiding on transcluded pages like that. Bill3 15:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

April FoolsEdit

Sad. The April Fools stuff needs to go.- -- Davodd | Talk 09:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Mouse image on main pageEdit

File:Mus Musculus-huismuis.jpg

Cute but evil... LOL. FellowWikiNewsie 19:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

And a featured picture from commons... but not harmless, according to the story.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Layout and whitespaceEdit

I'm no wikicode expert, but with the addition of the Wackynews section I see an even bigger area of whitespace under the daily article list.

Is it possible to make the old news (2005/2006) stuff span the full page width as two columns and eat up this space? --Brian McNeil / talk 20:41, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

See: User:Doldrums/Sandbox and Wikinews:Water_cooler#Wackynews_section_on_main_page. FellowWikiNewsie 20:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I've collapsed the wackynews section, might want to change the bgcolor on the headline though. :) --Brian McNeil / talk 21:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
talking about whitespace, do we really need fourteen stories from last year and the previous year on the main page? –Doldrums(talk) 08:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Not really but sometimes they are interesting. FellowWikiNewsie 17:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


For the mouse item currently on the main page (think it's on Template:Third lead), should it be "made its nest" instead of "made it's nest"? Pilchard 20:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Fixed... And thanks for highlighting it. Some of us are busy watching the recent changes and not looking at the main page. If you ever want to update any of the leads that appear on the main page look for the Newsroom link in the navigation box. The three main page leads are down the right side of that page with update links. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


Where is the story about the hijacked airplane in Turkey? Baristarim 16:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

this?  Thunderhead  ►  16:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Thunderhead, I believe he is referring to a hijacking that happened today. [1]
Baristarim, an article hasn't been written yet. Actually, I'm trying to find more information about it, but all of the news reports are pretty short; it could end up being one of today's Wikinews Shorts. —Zachary talk 17:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

2007 NHL Stanley Cup PlayoffsEdit

Hey, can someone put the NHL Playoffs on the main page? I think it deserves a spot. --wjmoore 15:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Sure. Do you have a template for it? Bawolff 17:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
  Done Bawolff 17:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I really have to object. Does the whole world really care about hockey or cricket? No, it should be off the main page. Soccer on the other hand should be. 14:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

One, it's football. Two, the only worldwide football tournament is the World Cup, which isn't on again for 3 years. Now, to be honest, I don't care for, or see the need for Ice Hockey. But Cricket, now that is a worldwide tournament, and it is a current one, and a damn lot more people in the world care for Cricket than Ice Hockey, and probably more than for football as well. -- 17:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC).
If you don't like sports, don't read it. Wikinews is for everyone, we don't restrict people from writing about what they like. On the other hand, I do understand what you mean...2007 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs is North American but at the same time Wikinews does allow local reporting. I am in the middle on this one. FellowWikiNewsie 18:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
There's no US team in the Cricket World Cup, so technically it's not a worldwide tournament. —Zachary talk 18:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
No the tournemount is open to everyone its just your not good enough to be in it ;-)--MarkTalk 18:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I think what means is that the Cricket World Cup is international because it has many countries in it. It's not just in one continent. FellowWikiNewsie 18:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I think what ment was that it (hockey) isn't worldwide (that I know of) however Football (soccer) and Cricket are. 23:06, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

How about this, if you have something better to put there, and have a series of articles written on it, we'll put it up there. Seeing as to my knowledge we don't, then we can't put anything else up there. Bawolff 23:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Bawolff's fine judgement. However, (you knew that one was coming!) I don't quite see how a sport that all of North America cares about is considered "local." Given, most of the regular season hockey games I write about deal with the Pittsburgh Penguins (Pennsylvania, USA). Yeah, that's local, (though I hear Sidney Crosby is an idol in Canada) but the playoffs includes teams from all around the United States and Canada, making it continental news.
By the way, I don't even think the United States has a cricket team

and we don't want one! I don't even know what cricket is, other than some odd form of baseball using a long paddle and balls... or something sort of like that. I bet 95% of the population of North America couldn't tell you any more than I just did. But just because I/North America doesn't follow it doesn't mean that it should exist on the main page. Same with soccer.. I mean "Football". --wjmoore 03:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Well they obviously do, just like Australia has a lacrosse team, they just are not very popular  . I still don't see the issue with it, even if it is semi-local. so what if its Canada and USA only, we have the space and there is nothing better (more international) to put there. otherwise it'd just be less content on the main page, and that's not good. Bawolff 06:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
  • We have good coverage of the tournament and, as Bawolff says, we don't have anything else that is more international. Use the space, and hopefully we'll end up with more people reading because we have good coverage of a sport they like. I believe the guys writing sports need encouragement and I kinda miss MrM being about as he got accredited and access to games. There's probably a lot of good knowledge he could have imparted to them. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I remember, (long time ago), he used to be the only one who'd ever report via the wiki-phone, (calling in on cell phone at end of game), but no one here knew anything about sports, so we couldn't make heads or tails about what he was talking about, so we'd have to wait for him to come online anyway. </back in the good ole' days> Bawolff 02:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
At what Bawolff said on the 17th: someone once said quality over quantity. 23:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I thought it was going to be off now its going to be spam on the front page that only some canadians care about.
Cricket is NOT international. If we have only "international" sports there, then we would only cover the Olympics. DragonFire1024 03:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually its way more international than hockey. 15:21, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
"Cricket is NOT international." Of course, how could any sport not known in the USA and or Canada, be really international. Besides, ... Offensive comment removed.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:22, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
That's rude. Australia, New Zealand and Great Britain aren't third world. duh! 23:08, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Proof, if any were needed, that North American's don't get irony. Just noticed, it was possibly a Belgian who deleted the ironic comment. It get's better.
Yes, we are a small but fantastic country.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 07:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

That's SpiffyEdit

What's with the newspaper print look at the top of the page? I like it. Gives the site more of a newspaper-ey feel. --wjmoore 02:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank stickeylabel. We;ve been discussing it at the water cooler for a while now. If you thought that was cool, also consider the Datrio+MrM skin. (If you're using firefox or Opera (or any other browser supporting alt stylesheets), you can preview with View→Page Style→<seleect skin>. To make permenet, or if you're using Internet explorer (aka the browser of all badness in this world, go to), Goto Wikinews:skins, and follow instructions there. Bawolff 06:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Stickylabel, I like it: from a constructive criticism standpoint, maybe the news column print backdrop could start off slightly lighter at the head of it, and run more deeply in length, all the while fading in shorter steps. -Edbrown05 06:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree, it still needs a little work. It's almost too much. Clean is good. -- Zanimum 19:29, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
The last version was much lighter. Bawolff 02:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

The new version is absolutely awesome. Neebs 00:15, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Can someone add this Molten steel killed 32 workers in Liaoning,China to the portal?Edit

--Ksyrie 06:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Can someone explain why this news Bible publishing firm attacked; 3 killed in Latest news,and this one Molten steel killed 32 workers in Liaoning,China was removed ?Edit

--Ksyrie 09:16, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Because the first one is more than one sentence and the second one isn't. It should be developed more before publishing. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I had added another sources.--Ksyrie 09:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

New dynamic nav boxes for portal section of template:Latest newsEdit

I have changed the Nav boxes in the portal section of the latest news template to auto-close one you open another one. (credit goes to BrianMc for this idea). Feel free to revert if you don't like. Bawolff 02:12, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

The newsEdit

The news keeps getting better and better! They eventually had to find a sort-of-earth-like planet! --Remi0o 06:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Stanley Cup 2007Edit

If the Stanley Cup Playoffs cannot be on the front page, neither should Cricket. Its not played in the US so I don't care about it. If it has to be international, then the only sport ever up would be the Olympics...and cricket is NOT international. DragonFire1024 03:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

This is the Cricket world cup, it is international. The Stanley Cup Playoffs is not international nor a world cup. I talked about this on IRC when it was first added a couple of weeks ago and the consensus there was to remove, also it not been updated a lot. Cricket is a international in this case, of the world cup. If the Stanley Cup Playoffs are added, I'll add all NZ sports to the mainpage as well, and lets add every country to the mainpage Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 04:07, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
International = is NOT in the US, therefore its not international...and I couls care less what WP considers international. Hockey is in the US, Canada, and a lopt of Europe... DragonFire1024 04:10, 28 April 2007 (UTC) is an Olympic sport....with i don't know how many countries. DragonFire1024 04:27, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
So is Hockey. Gosh, that could get confusing, couldn't it.
On that subject, a quick search finds the Wikipedia article w:International field hockey tournaments, which shows the most recent (international) field hockey tournament as being the 2007 Women's Champions Trophy (field hockey), in January. A quick look at that article shows it is apparently a tournament "for the world's leading national women's teams"; that's national teams, not clubs. Field hockey is a game that, in my experience, is as popular as ice hockey. So why was that tournament of national teams not on the front page, if a North American club tournament should be. -- 12:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC). example used only due to similarity in sport, I'm not suggesting that the tournament was more widely publicised than the Ice Hockey one (though to be honest, where I live, they were/are publicised the same - as in not at all) or anything else about it
  • For our sports coverage we have to rely on what contributors are interested in covering. Yes, that is likely to bias us towards some sports and away from others. Where we have a reliable source of coverage for a tournament I don't see why we should be too critical about the participants not being international enough to merit the front page. I personally don't go looking for either the cricket or hockey, but I know both are linked to from the main page. I commented on this to a friend who follows cricket and he was delighted to get ongoing match scores whenever he wanted.
Given time, and a - hopefully - increasing contribution base more sports will be covered and we'll have to start taking tough decisions on what sporting events get main page mentions. The Olympics would be a no-brainer as front page material, but baseball is something that might just get a single link to a portal instead of lists of game results. As to DragonFire1024's comment on cricket... That's one of the most international sports around. Only parts of the Americas ignore it, there are teams from Europe, Asia, Africa, Australasia, and the Carribean in the World Cup. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
In all fairness, pretty much every country apart from the remnants of the British empire ignores cricket. But it's certainly more widely followed than American ice hockey. --+Deprifry+ 15:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
ITS NOT JUST AMERICAN!. DragonFire1024 18:06, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
As with most unamerican things, that's one of it's few endearing points.

I reverted and readded. Why? 1) the writers, who looks to me only contribute to sports, deserve the recognition. 2) Does not matter how little or how many countries play the sport, it IS international. Although the US has a cricket team, its not covered anywhere in the US. If that still makes cricket international, then so is hockey. 3) No one has yet to provide actionable objections to have it removed. "I don't like it there" is not actionable, and International is not en excuse. See #2. DragonFire1024 18:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Reverted. This Stanley Cup is a North American Cup it is not a international world cup, the cricket is a world cup thus is more international. Even if you try to say Ice Hockey is a international sport, there is only 65 members in the IIHF. However, the reason why I oppose this been on the mainpage, is because one, it shows a North American bias, and 2 it is not internationally noteworthy, international teams do not seek it, only Canada and US teams play for it. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Also, the Final of the 2007 Cricket World Cup is been played now, so we can just be done with it, and remove everything Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:16, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Your POV that its North american BIAS is BS, and a personal POV. We may as well not allow sports at all whatsoever. If someone does not "like the way it looks" or does "not watch hockey"then so what.Those are NOT actionable objections. If you don't like the article, then don't read it. DragonFire1024 05:15, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
We need to amend the NPOV policy. “If the US does not play a sport, it's not a worldwide sport. If, and even if only the US plays a Sport, it is a worldwide sport” Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 07:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
"If the US does not play a sport, it's not a worldwide sport."That's why American's invented such dull sports like roboball, men's rounders and men's netball. As to the merkin arguing that this site isn't biased towards North America, try reading it first. Then come back and we'll be glad to hear your unbiased arguments pointing out how and where it isn't.

Supermassive Star ExplosionEdit

-I just discovered this article on the nytimes homepage: It's very recent and I'd like to request that an article be written about it. I'll be on that later, although for several hours I'll be occupied beforehand, so if somebody else could get a head start that would be awesome.

Date and timeEdit

Date and time don´t appear in the standard form 2007-05-08 T 10:30 UTC --Mac 08:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Personally we should have a little calendar on the main page, like I have in my userpage. DragonFire1024 18:22, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Jerry Falwell - dead or killed?Edit

The current byline for the Jerry Falwell story reads a little oddly - it gives the impression that he died because he was found unresponsive by Ron Godwin. "Found unresponsive" has a lot of different possible meanings - when I first read it, I thought maybe Ron had murdered him because he failed to respond to an email or something(!) 06:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. 21:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Latest news is kinda slowEdit

How long does it take for a new article to show up? It's kinda slow...

Users write articles, and much of them, like me, usually write on what they think is interesting. Since we are not obligated or required to write, we do it when we see news that interests ourselves. If you want to see a specific report on an event you can request an article or you can write your own :) DragonFire1024 03:34, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
hi Ihafez, welcome to Wikinews. i guess you're asking about the article Senator who voted for anti-cellphone driving law crashes her car while on her cell phone that you wrote. it's now up on the main page. once you've checked that an article is ready to be published, you can replace the {{develop}} tag with a {{publish}} tag to get the article on to the main page. –Doldrums(talk) 04:34, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Just a Minor Error in the "About Wikinews" boxEdit

In the third row, "Unbiased" is spelled "Unbaised".

  Done. Thanks for noticing. --SVTCobra 14:21, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


Should we mention the Wikinews blog ( ) somewhere on the front page? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:29, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Main page changesEdit

Should we use the Wikia idea and hide the main page on a {{home}}-template? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 08:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I changed the order of the "things you can do" at the top, think we don't need the newsroom there as it's also on the left navigation bar, and RSS needs to be more prominent because it's important for readership.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
So is the Print Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 19:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Age limit?Edit


Is there an age limit for the date of events that one writes articles on? Yesterday? Last week? Last month? Last year? What is the Wikinews policy on 'old news'? (BTW, I'm reasonably familiar with wiki mark-up, I'm a reasonably experienced editor over on Wikipedia). Blood Red Sandman 22:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

About 2-3 days, in place that EN media can be slow on (like Africa) about a week. --Cspurrier 22:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:33, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
It also depends on what the subject matter is, some subjects obviously don't really have time frames, such as interviews etc. Welcome to wikinews Bawolff 22:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Therefore this is just too old. Damn. Oh, well. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Why is the article "More than 100 demonstrate against data retention in Vienna, Austria" shown as "In development"?Edit

My article More than 100 demonstrate against data retention in Vienna, Austria is shown as "In development" on the main page, even though the Develop-template has been removed very shortly after I created it - in fact, it already showed up on the main page under the current articles and was already in the RSS feed. --Florian Prischl 21:19, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


"Questions arrise about health of North Korean Dictator" - first headline for today

Already fixed - before I saw your comment. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Leads on main pageEdit

I'm beginning to think that maintaining leads on the Main Page is something that maybe should go away, meaning no leads placements at all. Maintenance of these leads has always been been something that requires a high amount of personal, rather than community, judgement. Since space on any web page is a premium thing, perhaps the real estate granted to these leads can be better utilized for other purposes. -Edbrown05 06:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that since most websites use leads, we should too. I don't understand why there is suddenly such a delay in updating them. There is definitely community input in the decision which lead should be on the main page: if the choice is poor or controversial, it will likely be removed. Until now I think we have managed perfectly to agree on the choice of leads. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I can see both points of view here, and would advise flexibility to allow for the placement of leads when stories warrant. If after a couple days, there are no decent leads, maybe dump the modules and allow other elements to move up. When news breaks, re-insert the leads.
As the situation is now, the leads have remained the same for three days in a row, and have likely remained so because there have been few subsequent stories that could top a kidnapped reporter or a pedophile ring being busted. I would, however, vote for a caterpillar infestation, stinky fruit or toy recall over a black box being found as a featured article. I would become more active in updating the leads, but am mainly interested in writing stories, and am loath to promote any stories I've written myself. Wisekwai 15:34, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I too hate promoting stories that I've written myself; I can only watch and hope. I must say, pleased though I was to see my article on the retrieval of the CVR, I was a bit surprised it was a) put on as a lead and b) stayed so long. I mean, it's big news to me, but I'd have thought it to be of interest only to a limited audience. Probably went on due to a lack of Cameroon or Kenya news stories. I wonder if we should introduce voting or similar for the lead? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:29, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
pls do feel free to update leads, including to articles you've contributed. Wikinews usually has a small number of contributors active at a given time, so there isn't much scope (or time) for a "community determined" promotion. get well written articles get their place in the sun. i wouldn't mind getting rid of leads in portals, many of which are hopelessly unmaintained and out of date. but the main page shld have leads, if nothing else, to highlight the better articles WN produces. i have no problems with trying to come up with a more community-oriented process for selecting leads, i just don't think its going to matter much given how small the community is. –Doldrums(talk) 21:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Title ChangeEdit

The title of the article Creationism and intelligent design have no place in the UK science curriculum has been changed to "Creationism and intelligent design have no place in the UK science curriculum" says UK Government to clarify the article, but this needs to be changed on the main page. JQF 13:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Just hit the refresh link to clear your cache. -- 13:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks JQF 13:57, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Updating Breaking NewsEdit

I think the Alan Johnston story should be removed from the breaking News section. Replace it, if you wish, with something a bit more current?

You're probably right. But keep in mind that this is Wikinews and anybody can do this, including you! --SVTCobra 23:48, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


The main page is all wonky. I'm not sure what the problem is, though, so could someone who knows what's wrong please fix it?-- 18:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

looks fine to me, and it hasn't been adited for ages. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
It's fixed now, but about forty minutes ago there was some sort of glitch where it wasn't displaying any stories, just lines of code.-- 19:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I saw it too - something 'bout DynamicPageLinks or Lists. But as soon as I hit reload it was fine again. -- 19:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Page errorsEdit

I have firebug installed, it currently lists one error for the main page, main page talk, and the edit window I'm typing this in. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC) Details:

wgAjaxWatch.watchLinks has no properties
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--Brian McNeil / talk 11:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

some dev was playing with the js without testing would be my geuss (only a geuss). Only devs can touch that js file. Did the same error appear on 'pedia? Bawolff 05:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Bulgarian medics/Hungarian presidentEdit

On the main page it says that the medics were pardoned by the Hungarian president, while in fact (ant id's stated in the article) it was done by the Bulgarian president (as they're Bulgarian :) ). 08:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

oops! thanks for catching that! it's fixed now. –Doldrums(talk) 08:51, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


Is there any chance of integrating audio into the main page, instead of segregating into an "audio edition" tab that, currently, imo, is rather messy and confusing (and not very up to date) I'd be willing to record stories, but I really think you should have links on the main page with each story saying "listen to this article" for items already recorded, and "record this article" to solicit volunteers. Just wondering. 04:43, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Article title vandalismEdit

The following articles have had their titles vandalized:


Perseids_cum_shower_visible_in_northern_brothel (seems to have been fixed)



'Cock'_found_in_vagina_of_Space_Shuttle_Endeavour (seems to have been fixed)





Iranian_sex_police_raid_concert_cockslapping_230 (seems to have been fixed)


Giant_Lego_penis_found_in_slut 02:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

All except for one seem to have been fixed now (or, at least, aren't visible on the Main Page). 02:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Got the last one. I just followed a link to the previously-titled page from the new page's history, cut-and-pasted the text from new- to old-titled page, and saved the old-titled one with the article text and the new-titled one as a blank page. I hope the vandal grows up enough so that he/she doesn't disrupt news services to get off. 03:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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