User talk:Chaetodipus/Archive 1

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Latest comment: 5 years ago by Mikemoral in topic 2018 ArbCom elections


You seem to be active at the moment. Could you take a look at Philippines and US hold naval drills in South China Sea amid territorial dispute? It's been long overdue for a review. Thanks.--William S. Saturn (talk) 06:09, 2 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

I'm sorry, but it's rather late here now and I don't think I'm alert enough to review. If it's unreviewed when I get on in the morning in around 9-10 hours, I should be able to review it. —Mikemoral♪♫ 06:12, 2 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Re: Hi!

Thx for info. I'll remember it :) I need some time to learn rules. I'll do my best to make it fast. --Ixtlilto (talk) 08:13, 14 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thanks and another question

How do the elections work? How many votes are needed to get elected, or is it the top x vote getters who are chosen for arbcom?Is there any place where discussions take place about the people who are running or any place where questions can be asked of them? Mattisse (talk) 14:19, 27 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Please see Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/2011 election/Nominations and voting. Voting takes place there and questions can be placed on the page. —Mikemoral♪♫ 00:58, 28 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Re: Indentification (sic)

No. I have not, but... I'm confused. The vote has been closed with less than 25 votes, so what's the point in providing it if the oversight vote failed? --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 04:35, 8 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

While I happily pretend I spelled it right :P, I commented before BRS closed the Oversight vote. —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:36, 8 August 2011 (UTC)Reply


I've applied WN:PeP to this account. --Pi zero (talk) 13:46, 17 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I guess it's to be expected having not made an edit in over a year or having looked through this site in a while. —Mikemoral♪♫ 00:01, 10 December 2012 (UTC)Reply
Shame. I always hate losing contributors. I hope some day you come back. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:09, 10 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Wikinews Writing contest 2013 is here. :) Please sign up to participate?

We've created the Wikinews:Writing contest 2013, which will start on April 1 and end on June 1. It is modeled on the successful 2010 contest. It would be a really great time for you, as an inactive Wikinews accredited reporter, to renew your credentials by doing some original reporting or conducting interviews. People should be around to interview to prevent a backlog, and several reviewers have access to scoop to make it easier to review any original reporting you do. If you are interested in signing up, please do so on Wikinews:Writing contest 2013/entrants. There is at least one prize on offer for the winner along with the opportunity to earn some barn stars as a way of thanking you for your participation. :D --LauraHale (talk) 10:26, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

It seems that I've received this invitation a bit late and the contest is already on-going. Thanks for the invite though. —Mikemoral♪♫ 09:45, 11 April 2013 (UTC)Reply


I left a note at the request. (Oh, and I'm about to add it to {{votings}}; I like that this has to be done by hand for most things, because the act of editing it is itself a way of drawing attention to the thing being registered there.)

I'm somewhat amused to note that, technically, you should have been de-sysop'd at the same time I was de-reviewering inactives in December. The only reason you weren't, afaics, was that at that time I was not yet a crat, so I couldn't do so; someone else did the de-sysopings, and for whatever reason didn't do you. Now of course, you deleted a file earlier today so you're technically no longer eligible for de-sysop under the policy. Not that I'm worried; that was one thing I didn't worry about even at the height of the fork, because although one or two non-admin reviewers did come back and abuse their privs to rubber-stamp articles (and were summarily de-reviewered for it), I always figured admins were a cut above, too mature for such antics.)

:-) --Pi zero (talk) 14:30, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

It didn't really occur to me that my admin priv should have been removed until after I had deleted that page. It was somewhat funny for me to realize that. I had only seen that the page was a spam page and used the delete button that I'm rather familiar with. I'm sure though, Wikinews could always use an extra hand patrolling RC, archiving, etc. :) —Mikemoral♪♫ 20:46, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Reply


Seems to me you jumped the gun on that FAC. Only three votes? And two of them just cast in the past few hours, which makes the discussion clearly still volatile. FAC isn't a race; we leave them open a great deal longer as appropriate, and I think the community was clearly still engaged in its collective deliberations. Just saying. --Pi zero (talk) 22:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

The FAC was open for a month and I saw no opposition to it becoming a featured article during the entire month the FAC discussion was open. Though, I must admit I did not notice that there had been two votes were cast before I closed the discussion. I did notice the newly listed candidate and it drew my attention to the then-open FAC. If you feel that the FAC should be re-opened for further discussion, then re-open it if you find it necessary. —Mikemoral♪♫ 07:04, 24 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
I see no reason to re-open that particular FAC at this time; I might eventually have decided to vote for it.
We're in agreement perhaps that the recent volatility would have been a fair reason to leave it open for a while; I recall not closing one for a few more days, a while ago, because it had enough votes but someone had just added an oppose.
I maintain that the small number of votes would also be a reason to leave it open. I doubt I would ever (famous last words) promote a FAC if fewer than five people had voted. --Pi zero (talk) 11:36, 24 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
In the future, I will make sure that there was ample time for any opposition or other comments since the last votes before closing again. —Mikemoral♪♫ 22:44, 24 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

'Django Unchained' returns to Chinese cinemas

Hi. Can you check 'Django Unchained' returns to Chinese cinemas to make sure all the sources are used? Four sources seems excessive and I do not mind checking... but if all are not used, would like the ones not used eliminated so I can do the review. --LauraHale (talk) 06:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

I took a look and the sources check out. The Xinhua source might be excessive since the other sources contain the same information. I made a few more changes as well. —Mikemoral♪♫ 07:10, 13 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
And on a side note, none of the sources mention the original US release date, though I think it's fine to confirm that with IMDb. The lead actors are mentioned in sources, however. —Mikemoral♪♫ 07:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thank you

Thank you for the administrative and clean up assistance with articles that need some help that you are providing. :)

Glad to be at least somewhat of a help. :) —Mikemoral♪♫ 15:34, 23 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Audio files

Just as a heads up, the audio files were added based on comments where Brian suggested the reporter read the lead out loud to see how it sounds. That was my contribution to that to give an idea as to exactly how that sounds. The audio files shouldn't be in any final version of the article, and can probably be deleted shortly. --LauraHale (talk) 01:17, 24 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks again

Just wanted to say thank you again for the administrative work you are doing. :) Much appreciated. :) Would love to see you writing more and would be happy to review your work. :) --LauraHale (talk) 23:14, 7 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Haven't quite had the time to write, soon perhaps though. Admin work requires a little less effort and goes quickly though it's sometimes tedious. :) —Mikemoral♪♫ 03:07, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Reply


I wrote the article Nearly 500,000 people protest Mohammed Morsi in Egypt's cities, and I'm wondering when I should put it up for review. I know others should probably input to it, but I don't want it to get "old". I'm new here from Wikipedia. Surfer43 (talk) 03:57, 1 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Well, I was bold and submitted for breaking review. Surfer43 (talk) 04:07, 1 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
(edit conflict) You can put up the article for {{review}} if you want and a reviewer will take a look (soon hopefully) and either pass it or leave feedback and not pass it. The main concern I see now is the paragraph style. On Wikinews we generally use shorter paragraphs, often 1-2 sentences in length. A quick look at our style guide maybe be helpful. Your lead does seem to answer the 5 Ws and the H (who, what, where, when, why, and how). We use the "inverted pyramid" structure for ordering information, meaning the most important facts come first (the 5 Ws and the H), then the important details of the event, and then the less important background information. Hope that helps, and welcome to Wikinews! :) —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:08, 1 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'll try to fix it up. Thanks. Surfer43 (talk) 04:11, 1 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
I put it up for review after implementing what you wrote above. I think I will like it here. Thanks a lot, Surfer43 (talk) 04:31, 1 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your article! And again, welcome to Wikinews. :) —Mikemoral♪♫ 04:33, 1 July 2013 (UTC)Reply


Mike, can you undelete the edit history for the kickstarter page for an hour or so? I need to see who made some of the recent edits. -- (talk) 05:57, 2 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

And if there is anything on it, please undelete the associated Talk page too. -- (talk) 05:59, 2 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Nice catch!

By whic, I refer to this. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. I'd also noticed it was in the newsroom. —Mikemoral♪♫ 01:11, 3 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Probošt's mechanical Christmas crib has found a new home in the new museum building

Go ahead! Delete it! Thanks. --Gampe (talk) 07:23, 12 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

  DoneMikemoral♪♫ 01:00, 13 July 2013 (UTC)Reply


Sorry, I'm not really good with writing these types of articles. I was just editing the article because very few other people were. --Thebirdlover (talk) 21:33, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Incidentally, I remember you from that really short mentorship thing we had going a few years ago. I'm glad that you're running for Wikinews Arbcom. I think you'll do great. :D --Thebirdlover (talk) 21:34, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply


Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/2013 election/Results. --Pi zero (talk) 15:25, 4 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Got regex-fu ?

and willingness to be mentored on AbuseFilter improvements? actually, the regex-fu can be taught. - Amgine | t 15:27, 18 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

  • I'm not terribly interesting in learning regex, mainly that it's always confused me quite a bit. Though certainly learning it would be useful for the wiki in curbing the amount of spam that we get here. I'll look for a useful primer so I could try to help improve our abuse filters. —Mikemoral♪♫ 05:07, 21 November 2013 (UTC)Reply


My article was news! I put in alot of work! Can you undelete my article? Can we talk about it? TheofficialUD (talk) 02:16, 23 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Your article did not appear to be news. Reading Wikinews:Newsworthiness will help give you an idea as to what news is and how the Wikinews community defines newsworthiness. The Wikinews introduction gives an overview of this project. —Mikemoral♪♫ 05:41, 23 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Arbcom election 2014

Reminder (as you're on the current ArbCom). Nominations are open for the 2014 selection. You may nominate yourself, or I'd be pleased to nominate you. --Pi zero (talk) 21:44, 5 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

I've not been very active lately, though I do try to check in once or twice a week. I'll nominate myself so there's plenty of candidates for this year. Thanks for the reminder! —Mikemoral♪♫ 03:04, 8 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Lawsuits over metal on mental hip implants go to court

I tend to think this won't be rescued from staleness, so it probably isn't worth fixing your hilarious typo. ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 08:20, 9 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Ha! I can't believe I didn't notice that. :p —Mikemoral♪♫ 19:14, 9 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Being bothered by User:Pi zero

He is bothering me with rubbish each edit. He is never contributing. He deletes articles comments sites here, although the article is existing. Articles under development are clean up articles. I might not write about RB Leipzig. My started articles have interest and he says that other archived articles are which from amateur clubs, university clubs or something else. He wants to rename my name here and is not rename me. My articles are written after the style such as about other proven football match reports. He is psychic unable to name reasons. Please remove him from the board! He neither productive nor socially competent or educated, for a globally representative on public free sites. --Nikebrand (talk) 21:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Nikebrand: I would suggest you discuss this at the water cooler or AAA, though it seems you've brought it up on the later already. Also, see Wikinews:Dispute resolution. —Mikemoral♪♫ 03:29, 7 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

bot error

Hi, bot saved the archive on other than your userpage because I have set -force this time. This won't happen again, but you need to set archive target page inside your userspace (It must be subpage of User talk:Mikemoral). I have fixed the bot, but can you nuke my bot's addition? Thanks. — revi 16:13, 13 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

I was just about to nuke the pages, but it seems Pi zero got to it first. —Mikemoral♪♫ 00:24, 14 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

A remark on archiving

Just a reminder, that we've had a 'usual practice' during slow times of keeping ten articles on the main page DPL, so as to offer a ready showcase of the sort of articles we publish — always important, and especially important in slow times. Why ten? Well, it's about the right size to perform that function. I've discussed it with others from time to time and most are amenable. BRS encouraged me to add a note about it to WN:ARCHIVE when he was neatifying that page in June 2012. --Pi zero (talk) 12:14, 30 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

ArbCom election 2015

As a current Arb, are you interested to nominate yourself, or may I nominate you, this year? --Pi zero (talk) 17:05, 7 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

I'd gladly accept a nomination if would like to nominate me, thank you. —Mikemoral♪♫ 05:29, 10 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
Congratulations on your election. Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:56, 2 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
(late reply) But thank you! —Mikemoral♪♫ 19:14, 16 August 2015 (UTC)Reply article

Sorry if I stepped on your toes. --Pi zero (talk) 10:47, 16 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

No problem at all, I was just popping in and make a couple fixes. —Mikemoral♪♫ 05:30, 19 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

ArbCom selection 2016

As a current Arb, would you be willing to stand for ArbCom again this year? If you don't wish to nominate yourself, I would be happy to nominate you. --Pi zero (talk) 01:33, 1 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

A pretty late response now, but yes, I'd gladly stand for ArbCom again, thanks. —mikemoral (talk) 06:39, 18 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
Alas, we missed the deadline for nomination by about ten hours. I should have been more diligent in asking you; sorry about that. --Pi zero (talk) 19:49, 19 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Delete my css Page

Hello Mikemoral, Please delete the page User:Labant/common.css also. Thanks. --Labant (talk) 18:04, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Donemikemoral (talk) 18:07, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

ArbCom election 2017

Would you be willing to stand for ArbCom this year? I recall you were willing last year (when you were a current Arb) but we slightly missed the deadline. I'd be happy to nominate you, or, obviously, you're most welcome to self-nom. --Pi zero (talk) 13:34, 9 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the reminder, I won't forget the deadline again. —mikemoral (talk) 00:45, 11 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

New bits!

Congratulations, you have shiny new IRC bits!

Just wanted to thank you again for taking on the tasks; you have +Ff for #wikinews and #wikinews-en. You will probably want to add #wikimedia-ops to your standard channels. You will also have +o there and in #wikimedia-overflow. There are a few other things we can chat about on IRC next time you are on. I can be found in #wiktionary pretty regularly. - Amgine | t 04:55, 24 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, Amgine! I'm sure you've spotting me lurking about in #wiktionary —mikemoral (talk) 05:23, 26 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Ottawahitech's abandoned articles

Please do not move them. They are yet to be checked for copyvio -- moving them to user space might end up in missing out to check for copyvio.
acagastya PING ME! 09:52, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'm working on this one thing at a time here. —mikemoral (talk) 09:55, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
Pi zero did not delete it till now so that they could check for copyvio before doing anything to it. If it is moved to user space -- they can remove the tags and we might forget to check for copyvio and end up allowing copyrighted material on Wikinews. If it is in main space, we would get to it sooner or later.
acagastya PING ME! 09:57, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
It's been lingering around in the mainspace long enough so it's not much difference for it to be in the userspace where we can still check the material for copyvio content sometime. —mikemoral (talk) 10:05, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
Once it moves to userspace, it would be very difficult to track it.
acagastya PING ME! 10:13, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Have a look at...

Talk:American poker player Chip Reese dies at age 56. No offense but, let pi zero decide because he commented about it in recent past. Besides, it is not okay to keep unused fair use images -- in this case, and what pi zero has said, visually similar images can be substituted.
acagastya PING ME! 09:46, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Are you not connected to IRC, atm?
acagastya PING ME! 09:48, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
Not at the moment. I'm just working on some of the backlogs here. —mikemoral (talk) 09:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
How am I supposed to inform you about cases of some backlogs in real time? Some of the things are tricky.
acagastya PING ME! 09:58, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Acagastya: That situation is a bit different in that the image was going to be deleted. As it turned out, it never got deleted anyway. Since these images would be effectively identical it's probably okay, although there's something that doesn't feel quite right with changing the image postarchive regardless. It's generally best to not change any content after archiving. —mikemoral (talk) 18:39, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Pi zero is yet to see those DRs, and new images are better at scaling - the mime type difference is the only difference. I asked you about IRC so that I could tell you about Ottawahitech's articles, just because the message was placed in this section.
acagastya PING ME! 18:45, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
Well, those logos are replaced with their newer version.
acagastya PING ME! 03:50, 4 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
Similar changes have occasionally happened on Commons (thus, outside our sphere of control), and I reconciled myself to allow the replacement was, after all, not really changing anything about the basic identity of the image, so having allowed those I figured I could allow these. I do take a hard line on not replacing archived images with an image that's different in any fundamental way (such as cropping or the like), but when the only difference is something like .jpg vs .svg or such, and not a photograph, it seems as if any claim that they aren't the same image is rather abstract. --Pi zero (talk) 04:23, 4 November 2017 (UTC)Reply


Adding file 24 hours after publication is considered substantial change. Better to add it as an external link. So I reverted it.
acagastya PING ME! 09:34, 8 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Though I expect I'd have looked for a way to handle it without a direct revert, the point about an image versus an external link does seem cogent. --Pi zero (talk) 13:26, 8 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

The Trump Networ Review: Find Out Why I Didn t Join

You can just straight up delete junk like that. There are plenty of justifications in the drop-down menu. Hiding revisions, tagging for speedy. It just creates more work, imho. Cheers, --SVTCobra 04:00, 28 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Now that I think about it, "blatant copyvio" is probably a good enough reason, —mikemoral (talk) 08:49, 28 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

United States: Four injured in Los Angeles school shooting

Alas, that it took soon long to get to. Published, though. --Pi zero (talk) 20:06, 4 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! —mikemoral (talk) 03:22, 5 February 2018 (UTC)Reply


Recently remarked to acagastya that while wikis generally have the metaphor of mop-and-bucket for admin privs, we don't have a similar tradition for the review bit. I wondered about "red sharpie", which brianmc sometimes talked about in connection with review; but apparently it didn't resonate for acagastya. Too era-dependent a technology, perhaps.

At any rate, bit restored. --Pi zero (talk) 20:27, 19 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Pi zero: I'd be inclined to call it the "red pen" myself. Throughout my entire education K-12 and university, red pens were used for marking things. Not so much with a sharpie marker, but the metaphor works that way too. Thanks for restoring the bit, —mikemoral (talk · contribs) 07:52, 20 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
I was busy with the articles that time that I did not even realise what "red sharpie" actually was. Sharpie -- our teachers do not use it; and since I am self taught calligrapher, the first thing that comes to my mind hearing "sharpie" is lettering. Now that mikemoral said "red pen", I could picturise a "F" grade written with sharpie; it makes sense now. However, a red sharpie would still make me feel as if it is more not-ready inclined than not; and also how the current education system is a complete mess.
•–• 08:10, 20 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Acagastya: I can specifically remember it was these kinds of pens. "Red pen" sounds corrective to me, as they were often use to mark corrections in math and science courses. —mikemoral (talk · contribs) 09:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
Now that you mention, my teachers used those red pens too (and I owned a blue one). Though I remember they used a red pen for positive messages as well as negative ones; though positive messages were generally much shorter (same goes for Wikinews review comments, of course). That's a negative association for that metaphor, though, yes. Hm. --Pi zero (talk) 12:06, 20 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Why is the story not tagged with {{review}}? Is that intentional? --Gryllida (talk) 19:44, 7 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Gryllida: I've not quite yet finished. I wanted to add some information about the laws themselves. —mikemoral (talk · contribs) 20:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)Reply


Hi, someone else here already created Florida school shooting suspect faces death penalty, appears silent in Court which contains more info. Cheers, De Wikischim (talk) 09:19, 15 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

2018 ArbCom elections

I'd like to nominate you for ArbCom this year. Are you willing to accept the nomination?
•–• 03:31, 6 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Acagastya: Sorry for a late response, I'd be glad to take run for Arbcom again. Although I realize now that I've missed the deadline, something I think I've done before. —mikemoral (talk · contribs) 21:09, 21 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
Pi zero waves to Mikemoral. Thanks for checking in. Alas, yes, missed this year; but, these things happen. --Pi zero (talk) 21:31, 21 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
I think you also missed an email, as well as how to see the court filings (Pending since March 27 --- almost four months.)
•–• 06:55, 22 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
I've checked and I don't see any mail that's been missed. Remind me though, I can do an explanation of accessing U.S. federal court records when I'm on IRC. Life is the unexpected, but hopefully soon I'll have more time to help out again. —mikemoral (talk · contribs) 06:34, 23 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
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