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Hi. Glad you're interested in contributing to Wikinews. I felt the article needed to explain itself more clearly before in-depth review; see the review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 23:07, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
- I've left some remarks on the talk page. --Pi zero (talk) 12:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- I've tried to help a bit with this; you should see it's a little more-structured as a news report. But it was only towards the end of what I've done that I spotted the cited AP source was October 20, not November 20.
- That probably explains a good-deal of the conflicting information/confusion present; unfortuantely, it also renders some of how the article is reporting/flowing as quite inaccurate.
- I'm pretty sure there will be sources from today, or yesterday, that can give additional information. You'll see I've sorted the sources newst->oldest; the general idea behind that is "what's newest is 'most newsworthy'", so generally facts in the story tie up with the sources (as-opposed to using encyclopedit reference/footnotes style - people go "click, click" and have left Wikinews before reading the article).
- I'll see about fixing up the use of references by converting them to sources. To help whoever is reviewing, we often use HTML comments for stuff like that. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:20, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi again. Unfortunately, my earnest attempt to review the article, in its latest form (I've renamed this section to fix the link), has fallen through. I've written extensive review comments, and see also the detailed history of edits during review. --Pi zero (talk) 21:07, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
- I've left another set of review comments.
- I notice you edited the article a little before I submitted my review. Er. The {{under review}} tag that I put on when I started reviewing asks to please not edit the article, but instead say stuff on the article talk page. I haven't looked at what you did; my review was based on the version as of my previous edit. --Pi zero (talk) 20:32, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. I made minor modifications, removing extra punctuation and changed the description of Mugunga to indicate that it was established prior to the current conflict.--Brylie Oxley (talk) 20:44, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- I figured I should mention it; it's generally just a matter of either overlooking the template, or not noticing what it says. :-) --Pi zero (talk) 21:20, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. I made minor modifications, removing extra punctuation and changed the description of Mugunga to indicate that it was established prior to the current conflict.--Brylie Oxley (talk) 20:44, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your contributions towards getting this published. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:32, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Oil pipeline spills diesel in Utah nature preserve
editI reviewed Oil pipeline spills diesel in Utah nature preserve. The lead suggests the oil spill is the focal event, but the sources say that happened last week (which the article does not make clear), and the court order happened recently. The article needs a rename and the focal point, the court order, changed. As the sources are two days old, it is getting harder to show newsworthiness so this need to be fixed really soon for it to potentially be published. --LauraHale (talk) 21:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi! The headline says "Chevron ordered to clean up oil spill in Utah nature preserve": would you happen to have a source for this statement? I can see sources about cleaning up near Willard Bay State Park but I can't even find a website or a map of an Utah nature preserve. Thanks. Gryllida✎✍ 03:54, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, Wikinews requires that there is recent detail about the news within last two-three days. The second source says the order was made on Friday at 8:01am local time. At Monday, 25 March 2013 at 14:01 (UTC), three days passed. However you created your article at 17:17 March 25 UTC. I regret to admit that I had to not-ready the article after your latest review request. Gryllida✎✍ 04:16, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
[[Utah Governor Gary Herbert criticises the recent Chevron over oil spill
Can you go through Utah Governor Gary Herbert criticises the recent Chevron over oil spill and remove any sources that are not used? This will make the review process go much, much faster. --LauraHale (talk) 09:25, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
I wanted you to know what's going on with this right now.
I'm in process of reviewing it. Given the way you've been struggling to get this into shape (and I remember you've had problems with previous articles, too), I mean to do a complete source-check, so that there are no unknown problems with the current text.
That said, there's a basic problem that will likely (not certainly, I'm giving myself time to mull it over) — likely cause me to not-ready it. I believe one of the previous reviews advised starting from scratch when refocusing; the current problem may be related to that. Anyway, I didn't want you to be blindsided if the current review comes out not-ready, and I wanted to let you know I am putting in a comprehensive effort here so I can provide maximum feedback either way. --Pi zero (talk) 17:22, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- One point to clarify: I want to give this article a clear path to publication. That's why I'm doing a complete source-check: Right now, the article looks scary to reviewers, because the source-check seems sure to be a lot of work. Even if I not-ready it on some specific problems, a later review will be way easier if all the text that's there now is already know to be verified. So, hopefully, once I'd done this, a modify-and-resubmit can get re-reviewed quickly because it doesn't look scary to reviewers. --Pi zero (talk) 17:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- I still plan to complete the source-check, but since it became clear the problems were really too much for passing, I've not-ready'd the article to get it out of the {{under review}} state. --Pi zero (talk) 18:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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Perhaps I was over-optimistic; I found more problems in the source-check than I'd anticipated. Fwiw, though, I did complete it, and commented on the article talk. --Pi zero (talk) 22:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC)