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Riots break out in France after 2018 World Cup victory

Hi. This seems a credible first submission; there's always an initial learning curve, of course, in getting down the basics. Please see my review comments, and detailed history of edits during review. (I didn't attempt an in-depth source-check —the most labor- and time-intensive part of a review— this time around since there were other problems that would prevent publication.) --Pi zero (talk) 04:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Hello 1Kwords. Just to clarify to the above: please consider implementing each of the changes suggested by the reviewer within several hours at most and re-submitting for review -- this would allow the story to be re-reviewed while it is still fresh. (Alas, occasionally people write articles and do not re-submit, or do so when it is already too late. That's something I am trying to avoid, here, by encouraging timely re-submission.) --Gryllida (talk) 06:12, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Gryllida (t · c · b) thanks for your encouragement, but unfortunately the article I submitted represents the maximum commitment of time+effort I can dedicate towards wikinews. Also I agree with Pi zero (t · c · b) that in-depth source checking is the most time-consuming, this goes in particular for the effort to write the article. 1Kwords (talk) 07:50, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, my submission lived up to the 5 items posted at the top of my talk page, but it was still not publbished. Best of luck with the en.Wikinews project. The threshhold for the publication is clearly a lot higher than those 5 items suggest. 1Kwords (talk) 07:55, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Actually, the article was below the minimal length -- that is three medium-sized paragraphs, not counting the one-line paragraphs.
•–• 08:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

The article was factually correct and based on credible sources. If that goes unpublished, that may well be according to wikinews policy. The strangest criticism is that a reviewer who reviews an article about an event in France does not comfortably read French. 1Kwords (talk) 14:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles below the minimal length fails in the style criteria. And you can not blame English Wikinews reviewer for not knowing French. It is English Wikinews, not French Wikinews.
•–• 19:00, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Corner case: are editors are banned from writing about topics for which there are no English sources? 1Kwords (talk) 07:15, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

I'd fix it, but I'm deeply unfamiliar with the topic. :-/

If this is the most you can do this time, perhaps good luck allocating a larger time slot for revisions on the next go. Gryllida (talk) 21:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Style is equally important. You are not banned from writing about any news, but it would be better to use English sources (as mentioned in the Source policy), or if not, provide a translation (like how I provided for this article Indian Supreme Court orders transfer of Asifa Bano gang rape and murder case to Pathankot See the talk page, which helps with the translation). IN any case, we do not solely rely on machine translation -- it has failed many times.
•–• 07:38, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

[deleted irrelevant items]

This is a news item I thought I would find on en.Wikinews, but it seems that en.Wikipedia.org was first. 1Kwords (talk) 20:36, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't produce news articles. It can't, structurally. --Pi zero (talk) 21:34, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

In this case, neither can Wikinews. Someone at Wikipedia has produced an article which is new, that's not the same thing as a news article. Best of luck with the enWN project. 1Kwords (talk) 22:04, 9 November 2018 (UTC)