User:DragonFire1024/archiveJuly-August 2007

NASA says water found on exoplanet edit

I had already made a draft of this at Spitzer Telescope finds water on extrasolar gas giant. I'll leave it to you to decide how to merge and which to make a redirect since I'm headed to bed and you've got a lot more experience on wikinews than I do. JoshuaZ 03:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

ok done...sorry I didn't se the other article. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 03:34, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Its ok, also if you are going to make that one a delete, you should delete the existing redirect of NASA finds water on extrasolar gas giant or make ir a redirect to the new article. JoshuaZ 03:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Your msg edit

I did remove nothing, I just overwrote since I was still editing the piece. --G.dallorto 11:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)--G.dallorto 11:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Stebic case edit

Now there is no geographic reference at all in the title for this case--SVTCobra 10:58, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

If it had been a murder case and I said "Illinois murder" would you really have thought that the whole state had been murdererd? or would you have thought that it was a murder that took place in Illinois? --SVTCobra 11:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I renamed in what I hope is a viable compromise. I dropped the suspect's name from the title since he is not a public figure, so there is no reason to expect people to know it, and replaced it with "Illinois man named ..." --SVTCobra 15:26, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Reply edit

If you haven't been on Wikipedia a lot, there are open proxys editing this site by a banned editor named JB196, as indicated by the link this editor is leaving that links to the name Jonathan Barber. These IP's are open proxies, and need to be blocked (a list of them can be found in the history of the talk I'm editing). This person is a disruptive editor whose sole intent (at least here on wikinews) is trying to take credit for something when they clearly did not (on wikipedia his sole intent is vandalizing articles by removing text via supposed policy violations). If you could block these open proxys, that would be great, and would probably benefit wikinews. Cheers! (P.S. if you want to reply, you're probably better off by reaching me at Wikipedia; same username) Moe Epsilon 05:54, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Well that's your alternative, but don't say I didn't warn you. If Jonathan Barber is editing Wikinews he shows no good intentions, as shown everywhere else on the internet. And yes, a checkuser by w:User:Jpgordan has confirmed again and again he's just using open proxies, really no checkuser is needed. If you look at what he's posting he posts a URL that directs straight to the name Jonathan Barber. Moe Epsilon 06:04, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Czechoslovakia ceased to exist 15 years ago edit

could you be more verbous Talk:Czechoslovakia ceased to exist 15 years ago- I have not got the point -- Alexandr Snajdar 10:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm really confused. edit

I still am not understanding this. I don't understand how you can be telling me that it is a "hoax" because I lived through it, it is as simple as my best friend is not here. And since I can't find any articles anymore on her, I just wanted to do this in honor of her. I did not want it to be such a problem.

It was in the LA Times and on the OC Register that's why I put links to those sites, but now the site that I had saved to link to the article right after it happened says File Cannot Be Found, I am guessing that is because of it not being current news, I don't know.

P.S. I do have her myspace, it has a pitcure of an article about the whole incident and everything since it seems to be that there you want more proof kind of thing if that would help at all. I don't know whether that makes a difference or not, just trying to get this settled.

SoCal News Reports

17 US troops killed in bombing on Afghanistan-Pakistan border; Separate bombing kills dozens of civilians edit

There's a major problem with this article. --SVTCobra 16:44, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Bulletin Delivery edit

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Thunderhead - (talk) 22:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Delete? edit

Could you please delete [1]? Thanks. ChampCarGuy 03:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

  Done Thunderhead - (talk) 03:59, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Sprint story edit

I did some c/e work and made a factual change. I hope you review and make it right if I made it wrong. regards -Edbrown05 06:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

You removed my post from the presidential candidate questions page on wikinews. edit

Hi Dragonfire,

  That was not a test.  I wanted Nicholas to ask that question of Frank Moore, independent candidate for President. Could you put it back?  Thanks!
                --Linda 07:19, 24 July 2007 (UTC)-- Linda

Your journey edit

To be fair, the intrepid journalist theme is valid. Don't miss Philadelphia, and get a South Philly cheesesteak. Like a NYC bagel, it's to die for. And the sand at Virginia Beach is the finest granularly and most white I've ever seen on the eastern seaboard. -Edbrown05 08:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

You will have to excuse me for misinterpreting the word intrepid. I thought it had to do with travel, which it does, but it is not something that dictionary definitions have the nuance to report... evidently. -Edbrown05 08:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks edit

Thank you for your kind welcome, I have been around on wikipedia for a while, so I will know the basis of how the wiki works :). However I can see this place is a bit different, and at the moment I am having a problem sourcing the news on the pages I created.

  • Everytime I add the news source for the football results, my edits are being blocked by the spamfilter, and the website I want to use is not a bad website. Just a football club website (so I can't use the proper sources). The sunder king 21:11, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I will need a link or name of the site you are trying to use.
I will email at to you, because I cannot add it onto any page without the backlist blocking the edit. The sunder king 12:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Bulletin Delivery edit

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Thunderhead - (talk) 16:42, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

yer no fun edit

cut it out. -Edbrown05 10:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC) Yeah, i know, but it's a fun page. -Edbrown05 10:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC) Policy of having some fun somehow got buried underneath an attitude such as yours. Fun and pasttime is why I am here. Don't beleager me , or however you spell that.... you are getting oppressive. -Edbrown05 10:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

When you do get to the vicinity of Virginia, stop by and see me, after your stay, I will take you the rest of the way to Virginia Beach. -Edbrown05 10:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I-35 Bridge Collapse edit

This wikipedia user Tomruen was at the scene of the collapse since he works only 1/2 mile away. He took the first picture of the accident that made it to the front page. I tried to confirm the picture was his, and it turns out he jogged to the scene with a camera. He has other pictures on flickr. (

Did you know about him? It would be prudent to get an interview. I would if I had enough time. -- Jay H 12:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

See your Commons talk, I have some nits about that awesome map you found and cropped... any help appreciated because I think the image isn't correctly attributed as it stands and I can't find the link you found on the MN DOT site that had the map (your link points to the license)... Please reply there if you would, this is just a notice. ++Lar: t/c 13:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The attribution on the image is now sorted, thanks for straightening that out! We do not (yet) have a MN PD license tag, I'm working on fixing that as we speak :) ... and I'll retag the image when I have the tag done so don't worry about that. Thanks again for your efforts, happy editing! ++Lar: t/c 14:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Well... so much for that. You may want to seek a different map source as analysis (see commons:Commons talk:Licensing#Minnesota Public Domain seems to be that the acts cited do not abrogate the copyright that the state asserts for their works. The map, the seal of the state, and the template I created to tag them are all up for deletion. My apologies for the inconvenience. I believe I led you astray and wasted your time a bit, and I'm sorry. ++Lar: t/c 20:56, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The wikipedia page has this map Image:I 35W Bridge.svg. I replaced the one in the article with it. --SVTCobra 21:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate... edit

I really appreciate your work on Highway bridge in Minneapolis, Minnesota, collapses. It's a big deal to me that you guys are covering this really well. That bridge is less than a mile from my home. Thanks a lot. irid:t 21:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

earthquake and pr edit

Maybe I am way off base here, but in my opinion anything that is not released by a news agency, yet released to the public for dissemination by the press, is pr. Not pr as in public relations but pr as in press release. I therefore include any releases by governments, companies, religious groups, NGOs, and educational institutions in my use of the {{source-pr}} template. Anyway, I am not even supposed to be here, but I will bring this up again in a proper forum in some distant future. --SVTCobra 01:34, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I understand your view, and I am not even thinking about reverting what you did. Eventually, I'll bring it up in some policy issue. But my view is that when an entity or agency that is not in the business of reporting news, they should be cited differently than the BBC or Reuters, at the very least. While the USGS is not usually under political pressure, you must admit that other agencies of the US government may be.--SVTCobra 01:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Coordinates edit

Kindly don't remove coordinates from articles; at least until the community - including you - have had the chance to debate how they should best be displayed and linked, and to appreciate their numerous uses. Andy Mabbett 14:51, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

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Issue VI - August 12, 2007
Administrators and Accredidations

This week, no users recieved admin status from the community. There are no ongoing RFAs or RFBs.

Featured Articles and Images
Exclusive Interview with Tony Benn

This week, Wikinews editor Brianmc got an interview with British politican, Tony Benn. Benn, 82, was also formerly the Secretary for Energy under UK PM James Callahan and Harold Wilson. The interview, which is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution License 2.5, can be found here. There is also an audio interview available at this image page in .OGG format.

Blog Activity

This week, several new articles appeared on the Wikinews Reports blog: "Home video catches alleged UFOs in Haiti", "Encyclopædia Britannica reaches Wikipedia's main page", and two articles under the heading "Wikinews reports from Wikimania 2007".

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Welcome to the latest edition of the Wikinews Bulletin! This week, you may have noticed a slight change in the design. This was because I felt that as a different project, Wikinews should not copy the Wikipedia Signpost. If you disagree, be bold and make your opinion known on the talk page.
Thunderhead - (talk) 00:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

IRC Discussion
  • This fortnight, not much happened on IRC. There was a debate among DragonFire1024 and Wikimedia Foundaton intern Mike H., but that was about it.
Wikimedia News (From Meta)
  • The Polish Wikipedia on DVD has finally been released and is available for purchase in shops in Poland as well as online. The release contains 239 000 articles, 59 000 images and the dedicated Java software WikiMiner. The DVD costs 39 PLN (~ 10 EUR, $14). Soon the 8 GB image of the DVD will be available for download as well.

Jihad Shaar edit

Why was the article deleted? // Liftarn

Old news. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 07:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
What it the cut-off date when an article gets deleted? For instance American cyclist Floyd Landis tested positive for excessive levels of testosterone in second test seems to have escaped deletion. // Liftarn

Yasser Arafat article... edit

Hi! I'm new to editing or contributing articles.

On this one, I seem to be able to create a footnote to the information I'm posting, but don't know how to complete the footnote to the bottom of the page to the source: Aaron Klein "Ex-aide: Israeli assassin poisoned Arafat in ear". World Net Daily News, 11-17-2005.

it would be great if you can assist. Thanks! 04:15, 17 August 2007 (UTC)AcemanJones

Yasser Arafat article...part two edit

Shouldn't this article make it to the front page of Wikipedia? It seems relevant, especially with HIV/AIDS and its privacy issuse coming to the front of the 2008 USA elections and China's controversial hosting of the Olympics despite recent oppressions of AIDS Service Organizations.

How do I help make that happen? I can be emailed at Thanks again. 04:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC) AcemanJones

Chinese Airliner edit

MSNBC's website specifically said the plane was heading to Naha.Chinese airliner catches fire at Japanese airport Golfdude8000 02:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

You are correct :) I misread that. Thanks! :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

There is a notable difference between scientific journals and news articles. edit

Just for a little reading: Uxorion 22:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, another site may be useful: Uxorion 22:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

New fossils from 10 million year old ape found in Ethiopia edit

Please don't copy articles directly into Wikinews as you did with New fossils from 10 million year old ape found in Ethiopia. 09:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If you scroll down a bit you will see the credit goes to Wikinews - ie the story was replicated FROM wikinews to that site and therfore not a copyvio. --MarkTalk to me 10:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry my mistake. 20:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: edit

Hey Dragon. I'm looking forward to start editing with you again too :) FellowWiki Newsie 20:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

RE: Images edit

Those images are bits of logos and not the whole thing and some are not part of the Wikimedia foundation, thus none of them are in commons. Please restore all my lost images. Eric Wester 21:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Could you please show me where is policy guidelines it says that you cannot upload an image for use in your user page please? If these are guidelines please go ahead and delete this and this as they are only on user pages. None of those images are on commons. Eric Wester 21:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible you could move them to commons for me? I have never used commons and do not fully understand how it all works there. :? Eric Wester 21:43, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Eric, you will have to register an account on commons and speak with someone there about images for use on User Pages. That is the only wiki that accepts them and they are fairly strict about how they are licensed. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I got it figured out now. Sorry if I came off as rude at first. I was just a little frustrated when I made my user page and without warning everything was deleted. I hope this doesn't set apart our editing relationship. Eric Wester 22:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Football edit

So I gotta do what?! Just explain... If i can't use them could i possibly use football shirts? Celticfan383 04:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Logos removed. Hope you like. I think that Orange should be used. Celticfan383 04:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to go do my paper round i'll be back in 2hours cause i gotta eat and etc too. Then more work on the Portal i think... Celticfan383 04:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

fast for freedom edit

Hey, Thanks for the now I am stuck. Jcart said that article needed work..I been working hard to be informational and more like news(I see that you werent impressed since I rewrote the whole thing)...TheFearow come through today 8/30 and marked it as ready...Last nite when I went to bed it was develop....Jcart also suggested to get an interview with a local journalist or wikinews journalist....So there fore I must wait....but Jcart said all is fair, I have a year before the event takes place. But you think that article is old already....I am glad that you commented..I need the feed back. Should I just forget it??Niacey 13:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)Niacey

Just to add, I don't think this should be abandoned. The date can be bumped and depending on the day's coverage the story could perhaps spend 24 hours on 3rd lead. That spot should be used for stuff like that which nobody else is covering. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

editing 2x edit

Sorry you had to edit my latest story two times. My fault. You guys were just really on the ball there. :) Herb 20:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I hope I can jump in here and say, "Hey! It's a wiki! :)" Don't worry about everybody dogpiling on an article. That's the point! irid:t 20:20, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Bulletin: September 1, 2007 edit

Issue VII - September 1, 2007
Administrators and Accredidations
Featured Articles and News In Pictures
Ségolène Royal during her meeting in Toulouse on April 19, 2007 for the 2007 French presidential elections.
Original reporting

Since our last edition, 18 articles have claimed original reporting. Some highlights:

Several others wrote stories based on television sources. The Wikinews Reports blog activity was mostly related to some of these stories. You can ask any of the blog authors if you want to help out on the blog.

Editor's note

Summer's over, and contributions seem to have increased a bit lately. I'd like to thank and welcome some of our newest community members for that: be sure to make Eric Wester, TheFearow, Theory, LaraLove, ISD and others feel most welcome! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Site activity
  • Wikinews is approaching 10'000 articles. Spread the word!
  • A Wikinews:World News Quiz has been set up after the Quiz extension was added to our MediaWiki repertoire. Users who take the quiz are invited to post their scores on the talk page.
  • Substantial changes have been made to the main page recently. TheFearow has implemented a dynamic news ticker - see Wikinews:Ticker for information and the template at Template:Ticker. Currently only available for almost every browser that isn't IE. IlyaHaykinson added the Template:Lead article with large image to the main page, which is currently the subject of a poll. A complete main page redesign is also being discussed.
  • User:Cspurrier has kicked off an ongoing mailing list discussion on the topic of setting up some kind of official organisation to issue press cards and support our off-site activities, like a Wikinews Chapter.
IRC activity
  • Some of the IRC topics include slow server activity, tinyurl's, the nearing of the 10'000th article on Wikinews, ... (add more here if you know more...)
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--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

RE: Related News edit

Aww, thanks for the pointer. Eric Wester 13:18, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Osama bin Laden to release message to US on six year anniversary of 9/11 edit

An IP posted this link on your article. Is it the new Osama video? Please see Talk:Osama bin Laden to release message to US on six year anniversary of 9/11. Please also see [2]. FellowWiki Newsie 02:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)