Template talk:Translated Wikinews

Links, images

Why do you want to link to the language?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Should we add an image, such as Image:WikiNews-Logo.svg?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 01:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Well perhaps something more along the lines of Image:Wikinews Developing.png. I'd say no, unless we have a specific logo which represents translation. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 01:50, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Broken?

Amgime, Your 'testing' has broken linked articles. Can you test in a sandbox? --InfantGorilla (talk) 19:47, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Usage

I am missing an explanation how to use this template. Could you add it?--Juandev (talk) 20:17, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Getlang

The image mouseover had a call to template getlang, which does not and never has existed here. From edit descriptions, it seems to have gotten inadvertently introduced from the corresponding template at Spanish Wikinews in 2010. I've replaced that code with something else that behaves plausibly. --Pi zero (talk) 18:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Edit request

{{Editprotected}}

As part of the project to upgrade the copyright license used by en.wn, pages that mention the specific license version will need to be updated. To make the process easier in the future, we are trying to consolidate the places where we mention the specific version used. We are doing this in part by using {{Current CC Version}}, as discussed here.

Below is the edit we need:

The change we are implementing now involves replacing any occurrences of the following text:

[http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license]

..with {{Current CC Version}}, which will transclude our current version.

The template currently renders the following; Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License. Therefore this change can be implemented now.

Once we are ready to do the license upgrade, we can then change the text in that template to reflect the current version and that will in-turn update all pages that include {{Current CC Version}}.

In addition to this page, we have a list of edit-protected pages that need to be changed. It can be found here: Wikinews_talk:Copyright#Pages_to_update_when_license_is_updated_from_2.5_to_4.0

You can see the full discussion about the upgrade here: Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Conclusion_and_implementation_of_upgrade_to_cc-by-4.0

We would like to have these changes in place before August 1, which is our tentative cut-over date.

Thanks in advance!

—Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 14:02, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Done Gryllida (talk) 09:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. The changes need to be sighted. I can't, unfortunately. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 14:28, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

@Bddpaux @RockerballAustralia @George Ho please sight the edit at your earliest convenience. Gryllida (talk) 22:49, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Nvm, I already sighted it just now, as it was editprotected anyway. Gryllida (talk) 22:51, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

{{editprotected}}

I apologize for the confusion. It was decided after I made the previous edit request that this template should not reference a specific CC license, as it could be applied to articles of any number of different CC versions in use by the original article. (Aside; I also misread the template. It is not written to state the CC license of the translated article, but the original, non-English article.)

Therefore we should remove the following from the template:

, published under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License

So that it reads simply:

This is a complete or partial translation of the article <title>, from the <language> language Wikinews.

Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 15:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Done Leaderboard (talk) 16:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

@Leaderboard @Michael.C.Wright @MGA73 Hello,

I am concerned about the removal of the explicit Creative Commons license mention from the template. CC licenses require not only proper attribution but also a link to the applicable license. Omitting this link risks non-compliance with the license terms and could create confusion about the terms of reuse.

On the French Wikinews, we updated the equivalent template to include a default license mention (CC BY 2.5 for now) while allowing flexibility for other licenses through optional parameters (for exemple 4.0=yes). This ensures compliance with CC requirements while maintaining adaptability. I believe a similar approach could be implemented here to balance flexibility with proper attribution and transparency.

Thank you for considering this! SleaY (talk) 18:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Sounds easy enough. Or simply make a new template so there are one for 2.5 and one for 4.0? According to Category:Translated news there are 268 articles so a bot should be able to change that to "Translated Wikinews 2.5" in a few minutes. --MGA73 (talk) 18:38, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

@MGA73 Of course! If all wikinews langages eventually transition to 4.0, having the default template display the 4.0 license without requiring users to input a parameter makes perfect sense. However, until the transition is complete, there might still be value in having a single flexible template that can handle both 2.5 and 4.0. SleaY (talk) 18:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

I have added a third parameter to the template to define the CC license. It currently defaults to CC-BY-2.5. Once all other languages upgrade, we can upgrade the default but leave the ability to change it, making it forward and backward compatible.

You can see and test the third parameter in Template:Translated Wikinews/sandbox. You can test it using the following syntax (test with and without defining the license parameter):

{{Translated Wikinews/sandbox
| language = German
| wiki = de
| title = Airplane crash in South Korea: 179 of 181 passengers dead
| license=[https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ CC-BY-4.0]
}}

If this is an acceptable approach, I will request an admin update the live template and then once the template is changed, I will update the documentation. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 17:24, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

The French template is made so you can add "4.0" instead of the full link "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ CC-BY-4.0]". I think both ways work and if English Wikinews does not translate articles very often then it does not really matter which version is used. The important is that it states 2.5 on all the existing articles. --MGA73 (talk) 08:49, 30 December 2024 (UTC)