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Latest comment: 1 month ago by Michael.C.Wright in topic Pages to update when license is updated from 2.5 to 4.0

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Brujula.net is mirroring Wikinews articles with the notice "Wikinews content is not copyrighted but licensed under Creative Commons Attribition 2.5 Licence Brujula.Net © 1995 - 2007". There is no link to the license text. See for instance http://www.brujula.net/english/noticias/wiki/Arsenal_defeat_Manchester_United_at_Emirates_Stadium.html . I don't know how this is generally dealt with here. Superm401 | Talk 04:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

I've just managed to convince the site owner to mention the licence, he was also using Wikipedia content without a GFDL-licence and decided to take the content down. I'll send him a short email about it.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

GFDL

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I think the text on the project page should explicitly state that GFDL, the licence Wikipedia is using, is incompatible. Otherwise I am sure it will happen again that users copy text from wikipedia in here.--Grace E. Dougle 15:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

triviality

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Is there a lower bound on complexity for copyrighted material? for example, I copied the template for sic from wikipedia, the full contents of which are: <sup class="noprint">[sic]</sup> which in my opinion is uncopyrightable, but an editor warned me that I needed to get permission from all editors on wikipedia before I do this. Is this true? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Demiquave (talk • contribs) 22:35, 22 June 2007

Why not upgrade to CC BY 4.0?

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Which issue holds up such a potential upgrade? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:46, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Have you seen the conversation happening at the water cooler? Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 13:41, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Pages to update when license is updated from 2.5 to 4.0

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This discussion has been moved to the following project page: Wikinews talk:2024 Copyright license upgrade#Pages to update when license is updated from 2.5 to 4.0 —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 16:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Per Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Update_of_license it has been decided that Wikinews should update to 4.0 but that it would be good if all Wikinews update so it is still possible to share/translate in the future.

Once Wikinews is ready to do the change the pages below should be updated: (for a list of other language versions see User:MGA73/Licenseupgrade)

Note for admins: To help streamline future license version updates, we are implementing a template {{Current CC Version}} to reduce the number of places we have to change text. We have done this on pages that aren't edit-protected. However, many are protected and need an admin to update.

The change we are implementing now involves replacing any occurrences of the following text:

[http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license]

..with {{Current CC Version}}, which will transclude our current version.

The template currently renders the following; Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License. Therefore this change can be implemented now.

Once we are ready to do the license upgrade, we can then change the text in that template to reflect the current version and that will in-turn update all pages that include {{Current CC Version}}.

Below is a list of edit-protected pages that need changed. The list includes pages already changed, so you can reference their edit history as examples of what we are doing.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

– Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published)

  1. MediaWiki:Copyright   Not done (elevated privs needed)
  2. MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning   Not done (elevated privs needed)
  3. MediaWiki:Gadget-UTCLiveClock.js   Not done (elevated privs needed)
  4. Wikinews:Social media   Not done (elevated privs needed)
  5. Template:Translated Wikinews   Not done (elevated privs needed)
  6. MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-footer-license   Not done (elevated privs needed)
  7. mediawiki-config   Not done (make a request in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/)
  8. Template:Main about   Not done (elevated privs needed. Should likely point to WN:COPYRIGHT)
  9. Wikinews:Copyright   Not done (See comment below re: articles created before XXX)
  10. Template:Printedition   Not done (See comment below re: articles created before XXX)
  11. Template:PD-Article   Not done (See comment below re: articles created before XXX)
  12. Category:Public_domain_articles   Not done (See comment below re: articles created before XXX)
  13. Wikinews:Global Networking/All   Done (see notes below re:Poland)
  14. Template:PrinteditionLicense   Done (Needs sighted. Uses {{cc-by-2.5}})
  15. Template:Copyvio   Done (needs sighted)
  16. Template:Imagevio   Done (Needs sighted)
  17. Wikinews:Template messages/Image namespace   Done (No addtnl change needed.)
  18. Wikinews:Audio guide   Done
  19. Wikinews:Audio Wikinews/About   Done
  20. Wikinews:Audio Wikinews/Template/Full Report   Done
  21. Wikinews:Audio Wikinews   Done
  22. Wikinews:Audio_Wikinews/Cheat_Sheet   Done (audio pages often use {{cc-by-2.5}}. Must change to {{Cc-by-4.0}} post-update)
  23. Wikinews:Audio Wikinews/News Briefs/Show/Templates   Done
  24. Wikinews:What Wikinews is not   Done
  25. Wikinews:Spread_Wikinews   Done

Also

  1. MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning says cc-by-sa-4.0   Not done (elevated privs needed)
  2. MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright says cc-by-sa-3.0.   Not done (elevated privs needed)

So it should be clarified if they should be changed or if that apply to all non-article edits.

You are very welcome to add more pages if you find any. --MGA73 (talk) 15:53, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Some of those pages will require elevated privileges to edit (all of the MediaWiki links). When the time comes, I can modify as many of the others as possible. —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 16:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think we should create a {{Current CC Version}} or similar template that we use to replace all existing mentions of the current version. That way in future upgrades of the license, we can change one location rather than repeating this exercise. —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 16:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC); edited 16:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Michael.C.Wright: I think that it is a super good idea. If that page is protected you can edit all the other pages now. And using that template it is very easy to see where the current version is listed.
But I think some places need to mention that "Articles created before <date> is licensed 2.5 and articles after that is 4.0.
If the change is done August 1, 2024 for example then that date could be published on all other language versions of Wikinews and then all that want can change at the same date. And chosing a date a bit out in the future gives all wikis a chance to prepare (find out where to change). --MGA73 (talk) 18:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
In the article Wikinews:Global_Networking/All, the section for Poland mentions a specific license and links to a page on the Poland wikinews that is no longer there. Given that we're hoping all other language wikinews sites upgrade, how should we hand the Poland section of that page? Just remove all that verbiage like the other languages? Is the Networking page still useful? The last meaningful edit was seventeen years ago. I just removed spam from it that was eleven years old, so I doubt anyone has paid much attention to it recently. —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 19:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello again Michael.C.Wright! I found one more page:

  1. MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-footer-license

As for the page you mentioned above related to Poland it does seem to me the page is out of date. I wonder if Marek Mazurkiewicz knows the correct link. --MGA73 (talk) 12:25, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I added it to the list as not done. We'll need someone with elevated privileges for that one. Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 14:19, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Great Michael.C.Wright! Template:Main about should be fixed too. --MGA73 (talk) 16:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Added and help requested for protected pages. Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 17:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
What are You looking for on pl.wikinews? How I can help You? :) Kajtus von Rzywiec (talk) 23:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the help @Kajtus von Rzywiec!
We have a page here, Wikinews:Global_Networking/All#Poland, with a broken (?) link to the following pl.wn page: [1]. Is there a better page at pl.wn we should link to on our side (maybe a generic copyright page) that clarifies your copyright license? Alternately, we could remove the link entirely on our side so that neither of us needs to worry about maintaining it in future upgrades. —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 19:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
[1] this page is here. As You said, it's just lists web resources for reporters.
This is about our licences: Warunki użycia (Terms of use). Kajtus von Rzywiec (talk) 12:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Actually, I just thought to translate the link to English and I see now it isn't meant to point to a clarification of the license. It's meant to point to a page on pl.wn that lists web resources for reporters. If that is correct, and if you have a new page for that, we can update the text on our side. 👍 —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 19:24, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Kajtus von Rzywiec thank you for the clarification. It turns out we had the right page title, but wrong linking syntax. I've corrected it. Thanks again for the assist. I also meant to post this last week but forgot, sorry. —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 14:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
No problem. :) If I can help in any way, just tag me. Kajtus von Rzywiec (talk) 16:43, 16 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I created User:MGA73/Licenseupgrade to make it easier for other languages to upgrade too. Everyone are welcome to update/expand it. --MGA73 (talk) 12:52, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

it will require a configuration change in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php$10828 too. --MGA73 (talk) 07:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I made a new heading below for the to do list. --MGA73 (talk) 15:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

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To do per November 2024

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This discussion has been moved to the following project page: Wikinews talk:2024 Copyright license upgrade#To do per November 2024 —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 16:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Below is an update about what still needs to be done (or is fixed allready):

Table moved to: Wikinews:2024 Copyright license upgrade#pages-table

Note: Articles created before XXX: The current footer say that "All text created after September 25, 2005 available under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License, unless otherwise specified." We need to update the date. The question is if how we should tell about older licenses.

Feel free to update the table with specific text about what to update and the status for the change (or move to sub page).

In addition to that we should probably inform the other versions of Wikinews and maybe even try to help implement the change there. A separate page for that can be seen at User:MGA73/Licenseupgrade. Feel free to move to a different name outside my user space or copy relevant info. --MGA73 (talk) 15:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

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