Wikinews talk:Accreditation requests/Archive 1

Should be handled by national chapters

This is just silly. Wikinews is not an organization in any legal sense and thus can't grant accreditation or anything else for that matter. Accreditation needs to be handled by real organizations like national Wikimedia chapters; they will be more familiar with their nation's laws and practices concerning this type of thing. --Maveric149 04:47, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

It depends on your definition of accreditation, I suppose. I think, as a community, we can recognize those wikinews editors who the community feels are capable of representing us as citizen journalists. --Chiacomo (talk) 04:50, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

The only one that matters; the definition that let's people have real passes that work. Part of the process we use can and should involve community help in vetting requestees. --Maveric149 04:53, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

The intention is that an accredited citizen journalist will more easily obtain a press pass or event credentials (the "real pass that works" that you refer to, I think) from a municipality/organization. --Chiacomo (talk) 04:56, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Organizations either recognize us or don't. National Chapters cannot change who recognizes us. Ex: No one will ever be granted a congressional press pass because in order to get one, a journalist's income must primarily come from their news organization and WN doesn't pay anyone. But Apple already gave NGerda free front row tickets to the WWD Conference and he recieved full press treatment (questions, catering, etc) --RossKoepke^Talk 04:59, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Having the weight of an actual organization vouching for the authenticity of the press passes will be *much* better than saying the pass is supported by a group of people on the Internet.

Nobody here has the right to use the Wikinews or Wikimedia trademarks in a way that would suggest any official status to the passes. Thus those names and logos can not be used on the passes without either Foundation or a local chapter approval and oversight.

The most logical thing to do is for national chapters to manage this and for the Foundation to set up a framework for doing so, which would include giving local chapters the permission to use Wikimedia/Wikinews trademarks in this way. --Maveric149 12:36, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Just a note, not all countries with Wikinewsies have local chapters. That would prevent even more great contributions from Wikinews. -- user:zanimum

Archive?

Doesn't this page merit an archive?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

No. Although there should be one created. —FellowWikiNews (W) (sign here!) 21:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I, too, think an archive should be created. However, I do think it is merited. --SVTCobra 01:02, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Does wikinews have an archive bot like the bots at w:User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo? --Jeremyb 10:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Nope, but one of those wouldnt work for this page. It needs to be manually archived upon closing, if we want to archive it. Matt | ^userpage | ^contribs 20:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I shall set one up. The index should be Wikinews:Accreditation requests/Archives and the first archive... Wikinews:Accreditation requests/Archive 1. Auroranorth 03:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Removed from scoop

Sorry, not going to look up corresponding usernames - but the following people have now been removed from the scoop distribution list:

• wolfgang.g.wettach
• gregory.maxwell
• nicholas.moreau
• frankie.roberto
• kat.walsh
• joshua.ainslie
• gary.kirk
• robert.lehrer

--Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Er, this was done because their mailboxes were full and thus causing bounces when anyone emailed scoop. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 12:08, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Also removed due to full mailboxes:

• eddie.ortiz
• sandy.ordonez

--Brian McNeil / ^talk 07:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Missing out on Wikinewsie emails

I've been remiss (but now in remission) on email addresses. Anyone missing one - contact me on my talk. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 21:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

About the coordinates

Do you have to give your exact coordnates, or can you give a rough coordinate so people know roughly where you are, but can't actually go to your house?--216.118.68.193 02:01, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You mailing address will not be published, if that is what your concern is. --SVTCobra 02:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Other Languages

How can i get for Accreditation request for other languages 19:15, 3 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.128.42 (talk)

Grand Wikinewsie Email Cleanup

The above-listed people's email addresses will be deleted; as will those that just bounced for me:

• Mike Halterman
• Joseph Ford
• Steve Callaway

Then Iĺl start going through the emails I just received. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /^{alt-talk • main talk'} 21:17, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

:-O! --Diego Grez ^{return fire} 22:01, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

• You should already have changed your password too! -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /^{alt-talk • main talk'} 22:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

How do I get on the wikinews scoop list? How do I contact a scoop editor? I have a copyright scoop for wikinews. It is hot now, not much later. Send me email <janwikifoto@cameraman.se> or <cameraman@cameraman.se>. I am in Sweden

Restoration of Accreditation

Could you please restore my Wikinews accreditation? The IPC requires that you be affiliated with an organisation.[1] It is not possible to raise a new request, because the mechanism does not allow this, so I am posting my request here. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:27, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

It would require a reapplication. As I remarked where you first asked about this, the concerns haven't changed. And as I also mentioned there, I don't think en.wn accreditation would help you with the IPC... if you could get it. --Pi zero (talk) 19:47, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

And I've remarked that reapplication is not possible. You get an error, presumably because a successful entry already exists. Try it yourself. And the rules explicitly permit speedy reaccreditation. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:14, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

You'd have to do it manually, I imagine. --Pi zero (talk) 20:17, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

I think the admin tools would be required. The accepted procedure is speedy reaccreditation. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:19, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with that procedure (speedy reaccreditation). Example? The only similar thing I recall is fast-track restoration of privs under WN:PeP, and that falls back into the full process if anyone wants it to; in this case, I believe there's more than one person around who would want a full process.

I don't see why there'd be any need for admin tools since afaik we're just talking about creating a page and editing another, unprotected page.

No, it has to have the same name as the old one. So start by renaming the old page. But without the tools, this always leaves a redirect behind, which then prevents a new page from being created. Hawkeye7 (talk) 07:12, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

It's (now) my understanding that what the IPC wants depends on the event; what IPC event are you concerned about? --Pi zero (talk) 20:30, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

The IPC link above is to the Institute for Printed Circuits. [2] Orderinchaos (talk) 23:56, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

[3]. --Pi zero (talk) 02:42, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

• The sub-page is renamed (moved without leaving a redirect). --Brian McNeil / ^talk 10:24, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Accreditation for Wikimedia contributors

{{flag}} At Wikinews:Accreditation requests/Dennis Bratland I asked for clarification on who can be accredited. This policy seems to suggest that accreditation is for Wikimedia community members, but some people seem to be saying that accreditation is for people who intend to contribute to the English Wikinews platform (this site). To what extent is there ambiguity here?

Accreditation is a valuable resource which costs little to provide but can give great benefits. There should be some controls on giving it out, and right now so far as I know, English Wikinews has the most developed system for managing the issuance of press accreditation. Does English Wikinews want to be the project for managing press accreditation for English Wikinews, or for the Wikimedia movement? Right now I think either option is open, and I would like clarity about what the members here want.

If English Wikinews does not want to manage press accreditation more broadly than this project, then everything here should be copied to Meta-wiki or Commons to serve everyone else in the Wikimedia movement and issue broader passes, right?

Here is an example of how press accreditation can be useful outside the context of news reporting. Arguably contributions to Wikimedia Commons are of comparable impact to news reporting, and an equally valid reason for seeking press passes. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:31, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

I think my words are being misrepresented. I hope this is because they've been misconstrued.

I'm trying now to compose a remark at the accreditation request, regarding the issues as they bear on that particular request. For the general issue, I believe the policy water cooler, where Bluerasberry has also raised the issue, is the place to discuss it. --Pi zero (talk) 14:41, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Sure. It posted also at Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Seeking_clarification_on_issuance_of_press_accreditation and directed people to come here. Any comment anywhere is fine with me. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:47, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Error when applying for credentials

I'm trying to apply for credentials but it says "error - go back and try again." I tried several times with the same result. How can I apply? Bubba73 (talk) 18:24, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

@Bubba73: Is that the "request accreditation" button that is giving you that message? --Pi zero (talk) 20:01, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes, that is right. Bubba73 (talk) 21:26, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

@Bubba73: It seems to work for me, although I haven't yet taken it as far as actually saving. Was this using the desktop view, or mobile view? Did it immediately give this error on clicking the button, or did it offer an edit panel and then produce the error when you tried to save, or some other variant behavior? --Pi zero (talk) 22:38, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

The problem was caused by not putting in my user name. Bubba73 (talk) 05:22, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Resolved.