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-- 16:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Joseph P Kennedy III - Becomes Standard Bearer for Family Political Dynasty

Hi. I've left comments in a {{cleanup}} template on the article page (representative of some of the problems the article would have to overcome before it could pass review to be published). I don't see that the statement is under terms of copyright that would allow it to be reproduced in its entirety like that (do you know differently?); I'm not sure what Michael Steenbergen's relation to the article is; and in any case it's evidently three-day-old news, which means it's already "stale" for our purposes — there would have to be new information come to light, or a new focal news event; see WN:fresh.

If you've questions — about our review practices, house style, wiki markup — just ask. There's also a lot of good information pointed to by the {{howdy}} template at the top of this user talk page. --Pi zero (talk) 20:11, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Correctly formatted Source entries use the {{source}} template; it doesn't involve creating a template for the particular source. Please take a look at the edits I've made to the article, including the edit summary-descriptions, here. --Pi zero (talk) 21:19, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I've learned a lot from those changes and am reformatting. I can not change title of article? I wanted to eliminate the bias. Also I've added a fuller bio source form just 2 day ago. I understand news cycles but thee is very little information in public about this person. I am a Democratic activist and want to be factual, and eliminate any bias that comes through in my phrases. - --SpaceRocker

Edits Complete

Pi Zero, I tried to address all of your concerns. Three issues remain: The Title is possibly biased, Freshness is in the last 12 to 24 hours, and is there enoug info in the article to justify publication. Thanks SpaceRocker (talk) 22:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC) SpaceRocker

THANK YOU Pi Zero

Thanks for the efforts on fixing the article. You taught me a lot very quickly. Even if this is not news any longer and does not publish, or is too sparce, I now see how the system works. Taking time to fix my sources format and teach me what to do, and then fix title nd external links. Wow, I appreciate your time and am humbled.

As you may have observed, I reviewed it as not ready. I gather you've seen the history of edits during review. My review comments are on the article talk page.

Regarding activism: Wikinewsies have political opinions too. :-)  Occasionally one may have to disqualify oneself from a story due to WN:COI, but just feeling strongly about a story needn't disqualify; one can get quite skilled at writing a neutral story regardless of personal feelings (a valuable skill for any citizen of the world, imo :-). Indeed, activist contributors seem to me to have a vested interest in the neutrality, accuracy, and all-around journalistic integrity of Wikinews, as those things make the project a stronger venue in which to publish stories one wants to be taken seriously.

I'm glad I was available and could be of help. --Pi zero (talk) 23:46, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Agree Article Not Ready - Do I Kill It Somehow

Dear Pi Zero, there will be another round of "freshness" in about two to four weeks when/if he officially enters the race. Can I keep writing on drafts for this time period or should I kill this story/article and recreate a new one at the appropriate time? I understand I need to focus in on the actual news event this next time, which is the Congressional seat.

If you'd like, I can move the article to your user space, and you can work on it there until you're ready to move it back into mainspace and submit it for review. (I believe you should be able to rename the article yourself once your user account has been registered for more than four days.) --Pi zero (talk) 00:05, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Pi Zero if you would move the article to my space that would be good.

BTW I really appreciate your killing those faulty source pages I created. Thanks.

Done: User:SpaceRocker/Joseph P Kennedy III considers run for US Congress

--Pi zero (talk) 01:12, 9 January 2012 (UTC)