Talk:Holocaust survivor and Nobel Laureate Elie Wiesel dies aged 87

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@Keithman3: Just to inform you, NYTimes is paywalled and we avoid them for the sources. You should find an alternative for it soon. It has to be replaced (or delised). Unverified material would be removed.
acagastya 16:18, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

@Acagastya: Although it's preferable to avoid NYT since they clearly want people to not be able to access their site, I recently discovered an almost-trivial way to disable their paywall (under certain plausible circumstances one might be entirely unaware they had a paywall). So there's no technical problem, and I'm not inclined to do more than warn folks they should avoid NYT. Besides NYT's desire to paywall their material, there's also the possibility they could at any time impose a paywall that actually works. --Pi zero (talk) 17:49, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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Revision 4230345 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 18:03, 5 July 2016 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: There were two well-defined bits clearly non-neutral, which I simply cut. Other than those, the dominant class of problems (that I recall atm) were passages too close to source. Don't start with source passages and modify them, as this is apt to produce something that won't trigger a verbatim-copying detection tool but might still draw accusations of plagiary if there's enough of it. There's a bit of advice on the subject at WN:PILLARS#own. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 4230345 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 18:03, 5 July 2016 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: There were two well-defined bits clearly non-neutral, which I simply cut. Other than those, the dominant class of problems (that I recall atm) were passages too close to source. Don't start with source passages and modify them, as this is apt to produce something that won't trigger a verbatim-copying detection tool but might still draw accusations of plagiary if there's enough of it. There's a bit of advice on the subject at WN:PILLARS#own. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

"He was freed in 1945, only to realize his mother and sister died in death chambers and his father from disease and starvation"

{{editprotected}} It's a nit, but he wasn't only made aware of his father's death (which occurred in January 1945) after his liberation from Buchenwald (in April 1945), as I think this implies. He was, in fact, in the bunk above his dying father (he said in Night — I'm looking at the relevant page right now — he was unsure whether his father died in the bunk or when the Nazis cremated him, but the fact remains he became aware of his father's death well before the camp's liberation). Heavy Water (talk) 02:53, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't think we can add Night as a source at this stage. Can it be fixed with punctuation? Do our listed sources have the correct order of events, and if so, which? SVTCobra 13:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

No, certainly not; I was thinking of a {{correction}} as what was in order if it was agreed what I said was accurate and that this was a problem. I can't think of any way to fix it with punctuation or something similarly of minimal intrusiveness. I checked CNN, BBC, and CTV, and I don't see any mention of when he became aware of his father's death, so it's probably in the NYT — which I don't have an account with, so I don't know whether it got this right. Heavy Water (talk) 15:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

The NYT was archived, and no, it doesn't even mention his family. SVTCobra 19:59, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

I have perused all of the sources. Not one seems to talk about when he became aware of the deaths of his family members. SVTCobra 20:22, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

I have written a correction, but not sighted it. Please review the wording of my correction notice and the slight changes to the article before sighting. Thank you. SVTCobra 22:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

@Heavy Water:. I rewrote the correction per our chat at your talk page. Please give an all-clear so I can sight it. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:11, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Should it mention the number-of-sisters problem (cf. previous discussion), too? Other than that it looks good to me. Heavy Water (talk) 00:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Done --SVTCobra 01:40, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps "These have been corrected" instead of "This has" to clarify it refers to both items? (Also the date wasn't updated.) Heavy Water (talk) 03:45, 24 January 2024 (UTC)