Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Ryan524 2
- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a request for adminship that did not succeed. Please do not modify it.
Well as some of you may have known awhile ago I was verry active on Wikinews, I fought alot of vandalism and was an admin. There was at one point an issue that arose on Wikipedia at the conclusion of which I did leave for a decent amount of time >1 year, since I have come back again as I figured I most definatley would some day, though I can't promise the amount of activity I had before I took a wikibreak, I can check by daily, or at least almost daily, and I will continue to fight vandalism here, with or without community approval to be an admin again, it just makes things so much easier to be able to block the vandals myself I found. I do expect to be sticking around for some time and look foward to making Wikinews a bad wiki to vandalise.--RyanB88 - (talk) 01:59, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry it seems I logged in under a diffrent account, this account was the one I was an admin with, I created the other one when I forgot the password to this one which I have since remembered. Sorry for the confusion there.--Ryan524 - (talk) 02:16, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Questions / Comments
edit- What is the meaning of life? Thunderhead 02:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- 4, the answer to everything is 4. 1000000*1=One Million=Ten=Three=Five=Four=Four... see, lol. ;) On a serious note though if you want my honest views, I was created by God, for a purpose here on earth, well so was everyone else. Not thats it should matter but I am a born again Christian so my plan is to censor out any anti-christian material with my admin powers, well maybe not quite, I still respect others opinions even if they do call them facts and respect each persons freedom of speech, especially since some countries don't even have such a thing.--Ryan524 - (talk) 03:14, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Will you help with archiving? A101 - (talk) 15:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, and would also help fulfil {{editprotected}} requests.--Ryan524 - (talk) 16:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Comment Your total edit count, counting your past as well, is very low. In fact, I believe that if you are reinstated, you'd have the lowest edit count of any active Admin. Since your return, your have fairly few edits in "mainspace" and as of this writing only had one edit at all in the last three days. I'd like to see more of a commitment on your part, even though I respect the right-to-return. Your comment that your "plan is to censor out any anti-christian material with my admin powers, well maybe not quite" is disconcerting, even if made jokingly. Also, I suggest that you go to Wikinews:Changing username and get the User:RyanB88 account merged, before sockpuppetry is alleged. --SVTCobra 23:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Votings
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Support No objections. Thunderhead 02:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Oppose It would be nice to see a reasonable level of contributions before granting admin rights again for a number of reasons. It is a while since you've last edited, I'd like to see that you still understand our policies and guidelines and are able to apply this appropriately. It would also be nice to be fairly confident that you're not simply going to disappear again and for this I'd need an impression of how you handle different situations. I'd like to see a period in which you can demonstrate your efforts to fight vandalism as can of course be done without the admin rights. I also note from looking through your contributions that you seem to contribute in bursts, making many edits in one day and then not editing for weeks. I'm not sure this is what we want from an admin. We surely want people who are keeping themselves familiar with Wikinews affairs and are around to explain their actions. It is great that you're back and I look forward to working with you but I think it is a little much to expect it is appropriate to step back into your previous admin role. Adambro - (talk) 05:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)- Oppose currently, as Wikinews has probably changed a lot since 2006 --A101 - (talk) 05:59, 29 April 2008 (UTC) Support as I have now seen that he understand policy. A101 - (talk) 16:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Comment To address both your concerns, the fact is Wikinews actually hasn't changed that much since December of 06, its got more users, more artivles, but the underying principal is there, and alot of the main policies still exist saying mostly the same thing, I have been going over and reading over each and every policy to ensure I know what it is currently and I am finding that. To address the concern of just stepping back into a previsous admin role, officially it says here, "Former administrators who resigned their adminship in good standing may be reinstated at the discretion of any bureaucrat" I think thats this is exactly my case I resigned as admin as noted in the dif you linked to, I was not removed for doing anything wrong, but nonetheless I think the community should be behind me if I become an admin again. I hope this helps you understand the specifics of this situation and whatever the outcome I respect the decision of the community.--Ryan524 - (talk) 18:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- I understand your reasoning but I would like to see you edit for about a month first. --A101 - (talk) 05:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Comment I am almost tempted to close this as a pass under the past admins may reply for status rule Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 15:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'd suggest considering the opposition that would be inappropriate. I'm close to feeling that such actions would be inappropriate in all circumstances. Letting an RfA run and giving everyone a chance to raise any issues is hardly going to cause too much hassle or disruption, especially if the request is uncontroversial. I think in all instances like this we should have the opportunity to discuss it. If a user has previously disappeared and requested their rights be removed we should consider whether this is likely to happen again. It wouldn't be fair on our stewards for us to allow people to return and give them back their admin rights straight away for them to only disappear after a short while again, creating unnecessary work for the stewards. Adambro - (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- I am aware of this rule but have specificallly chose to go though a community vote again because I personally feel it's important to have the backing of the community, which i'm glad to see their is not alot of opposition and this has served a purpose in giving Anonymous101 a chance to voice his concerns and I am glad to see his concerns have been delt with and he supports me, I do hope to aliviate Adambro's concerns as well. The only thing I can really say to Adambro though at this point it while I agree such would be unfair to stewards to have to keep removing admin rights for someone who keeps leaving their is hardly any history of such being a problem, leaving once is something that could hapen to anyone, between RL and my need for a wikibreak I just had to leave for an extended time, nothing else is comming up that would cause an extended leave to come up again which is why I am requesting to be reinstated as an admin. I hope this gives you some understanding into my situation Adambro, and the reasoning behind me going though the Rfa again Brian.--Ryan524 - (talk) 16:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'd suggest considering the opposition that would be inappropriate. I'm close to feeling that such actions would be inappropriate in all circumstances. Letting an RfA run and giving everyone a chance to raise any issues is hardly going to cause too much hassle or disruption, especially if the request is uncontroversial. I think in all instances like this we should have the opportunity to discuss it. If a user has previously disappeared and requested their rights be removed we should consider whether this is likely to happen again. It wouldn't be fair on our stewards for us to allow people to return and give them back their admin rights straight away for them to only disappear after a short while again, creating unnecessary work for the stewards. Adambro - (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Support If the user is back, and is regularly contributing, I see no reason why a former admin, who was NOT de-admined for breaking policy etc, should not be an admin again. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 15:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose, but weak oppose. In a couple of months, you'll got my vote :) Jacques Divol - (talk) 17:17, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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