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Blood Red Sandman

After being de-sysopped, this person is still a reviewer. More than two years have passed, and he's been twice notified about his remaining tools and inactivity. However, not one review log has been made for two years, and I'm unsure how tracked his use of Easy Peer Review Tool has been. I doubt he has used the Tool, but I can stand corrected. Per WN:PEP, he shall no longer be a reviewer. --George Ho (talk) 19:38, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: I moved this from being a subpage of RfP to being a subpage of FR/RfP and changed where it was transcluded accordingly. This one does trip people up a lot. I don't know what we're to do with the redirect, though. Heavy Water (talk) 20:47, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Although this has been open for several months, I don't see a consensus to remove the tools. Thus far it is two in favour of removal and one against removal. I think we should leave this open for another month before closing it. [24Cr][talk] 15:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Votes

  • Oppose: I agree it's highly unlikely they've used EzPR since. But as I stated at the request for TUFKAAP's desysopping: PeP is both something the community can choose to apply, with discretion and common sense, and a measure to prevent compromised admin accounts or admins unaware of now-significantly changed policy, not a punitive one for simple inactivity. It shouldn't be taken as "better revoke any permissions as soon as the letter of these requirements is met." (Well, compromised reviewer accounts are also something of concern but I've mainly heard Wikinewsies talk about compromised admin accounts when speaking of PeP's security dimension). I believe my comment is even more applicable here, as BRS was heavily active and at the cutting-edge of policy formulation years more recently and has, a few times, vanished off the face of the earth only to return and resume working productively. I didn't know this during the desysopping (which I didn't partake in as I was too inexperienced with Wikinews), but per this it seems they configured Special:EmailUser to send to their wikinewsie [dot] org email address (wikinewsie being defunct, of course), so they're not getting email notifications from talk page messages. Heavy Water (talk) 16:17, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support He has essentially gone away. That does not demean past contributions -- far from it. But this week is this week -- know what I mean?--Bddpaux (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Since you voted and no other bureaucrats have been active at this point, is a steward instead needed to decide on this? George Ho (talk) 07:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Any admin or crat can action a reviewer-related request. Heavy Water (talk) 13:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You mean an involved bureaucrat is allowed to review the whole discussion for closure? George Ho (talk) 02:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Bddpaux isn't a crat, but is an admin. Again, any admin can action this request; there are some admins who could easily be retrieved from inactivity to do so. An involved admin might be able to close it, depending on the circumstances. That isn't ideal, but it's a small project. Heavy Water (talk) 18:24, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, Bddpaux is, according to WN:A. George Ho (talk) 23:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC) My bad. Just found out Paul's no longer a crat. --George Ho (talk) 00:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • As a former steward, I have to highlight that this is not an area where stewards should be involved under any circumstances. The reviewer permission is part of the content work. Asking a steward to close this is like asking a steward to get involved in an ordinary deletion debate. I understand the need to apply PeP but please let's keep a sense of perspective. [24Cr][talk] 15:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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