User:DragonFire1024/archiveApril2007

Music edit

Yup, you tell me what you want done and i will rustle it up for you as soon as poss (will probs be tommorrow though). -- MarkTalk 22:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah sorry about this, havent managed to do it yet, got a lot going on and it takes quite a long time. I should be able to do it this week but if not it will be top of the list next week. Sorry bout this. --MarkTalk 09:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


kk (i couldn't get on the irc) srry :( --Symode09 01:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

No Problem :) If you click on the left side of the Wikinews navigation bar, you can log in VIA the web. DragonFire1024 01:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Did you see the graphics eventually? If you did, did you like the video..... nice to see fox maintains its reputation! --Symode09 08:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

What should I add to the graphics to make them more impressive? Should I change direction? It doesn't look quite right yet.

I know about the image - I tile stickeylabel about the project lol --Symode09 08:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Much like Mark, it takes a long time, so I will try to see what I can get together, I've got the start done already. Trisreed 09:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Ticker edit

Could i ask you to look at Wikinews_talk:Bots and give your views please whilst your online. SOrry for the spam but want to get a consensus today. Thanks --MarkTalk 10:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, i miss it too (never seen it working here, but other places) and we can get one over on that *%^"!*(&$$()!"$)& Commons delinker (grrrrrrr!!)--MarkTalk 11:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Video sent edit

I have sent the email with an AVI version of the intro that works with WMP, and should also work with Winamp. If you don't get it, lemme know and I'll re-send. :) —Zachary talk 12:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, can you email to the video_wikinews@hotmail.com account the opener so I can put it on the soap box along with the other openers? --Symode09 13:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey Dragonfire!

I'm just putting together a collection of pics of the contributing video wikinews team to be posted on the blog. If you want your pic to be added to the collection, email it to; video_wikinews@hotmail.com (no pressure)

--Symode09 15:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

HEAPS GOOD!!!!!! What program do you use? Can u email me the vid in another format so I can put it on the soapbox... also, see above message --Symode09 16:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

AWB edit

I see that you've granted AWB requests in the past. I'd like to ask you to begin watching this page, which is where new AWB requests should go. Thanks!  Thunderhead  ►  20:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Wikinews on YouTube edit

It's really cool. But mabie we could use the music from Wikinews:Broadcast/Soundtrack instead. FellowWikiNewsie 23:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree it's pretty awesome - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 01:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey dragonfire!


Can you change the header at the top of the page so the trailer link goes to the blog and not youtube?I've put your video on the blog

--Symode09 02:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

The graphics links have been fixed. Visit the wow starts now page and you can see all the new graphics (3.0, 4.0, 5.0 --Symode09 03:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Can you change the header? I have added your video to the blog... can you make the header link to the blog?--Symode09 03:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

How goes the Wikinews channel?  Thunderhead  ►  03:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
No one really comes in but Zachary and i use it to communicate the images for the promos. DragonFire1024 04:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou for unblocking elmo! You are the first person to be awarded with the lucky elmo to hold onto for the night! Elmo now loves you! Thanks for forgiving elmo!File:Elmo.JPG

--Elmo 16:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

BEHOLD THE FLV PLAYER! edit

Hey Dragonfire!

I've uploaded the video player, it works perfectly. I'm just uploading a test vid - one that I think shows what many people think of americans as (even though it is unfair)

The video is off an australian comedy show (they like to poke fun at every country) so, don't take it too seriously.


Oh, and take a look at the player lol

It is located at http://members.iinet.com.au/~symode09/flv/stupidamericans.html

note how fast it loads... on a sluggish server!

--Symode09 16:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you hover over the video, the controlls will appear. It is pixelated because I stretched the video

--Symode09 16:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

blocking dynamic IPs edit

as Special:Block user says, dynamically allocated IP addresses shld not be blocked for long period, certainly not for a week, as the users who they get allotted to changes quickly. –Doldrums(talk) 17:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:20070219 1118236758001.jpg (Iran guy) edit

Please add anything you know about the copyright of commons:Image:20070219 1118236758001.jpg. thanks. Bawolff 19:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I added a message to the images talk page on commons. DragonFire1024 19:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Thankyou. Bawolff 19:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Is there any reason why you uploaded it and called it Image:Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei,.jpg with a comma?--MarkTalk 19:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Typo :) DragonFire1024 20:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
K, we all make mistakes - some more than others though ;-)--MarkTalk 20:18, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

cool video edit

A more sorted thing of cool videos on commons is avalible at commons:Commons:Media of the day Bawolff 21:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Why were my edits reverted? edit

Hi Dragonfire1024. Why were my edits to http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Shooting_at_Virginia_Tech%3B_at_least_31_dead reverted? I used information from wikipedia with sources. Sifaka 20:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a news source...and also, refrence'sare not used on Wikinews. Also, Wikipedia is and will likely be using the same sources as we are. DragonFire1024 20:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
My sources came from news articles, not wikipedia. It was merely copied from Wikipedia, which is not copyrighted, since this article is lacking information about the said topics. I think my edits should be restored. Furthermore that article on wikipedia is not going to be up for speedy deletion at all. I am not sure how you came to that conclusion. Sifaka 20:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
We do not copy and paste info from Wikipedia...if they have sources that are on Wikipedia that can be found on google news eetc...then we can use those sources. Wikipedia is not a news source. DragonFire1024 20:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I think you may have misunderstood. I used the actual news sources, not wikipedia as a source. I only copied what was on Wikipedia. User:Ycanneh said "please refrain (from copying wikipedia), it makes us look like a mirror." However, the information of Wikipedia concerning the description of the shooter is valid and ought to be in the article is some form or another because it has been discussed in multiple news outlets. Wikinews ought to be kept current with the latest information, after all it is news. Why should new information hit Wikipedia first and not be available here? I believe that the shooter's description is an important part of the unfolding story and one people will want to know. Sifaka 20:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
It can be available here with proper news sources and edits NOT copied and pasted from Wikipedia. If you can find the info in separate sources, then it can be added. Sorry...not trying to be a hard-ass...but copying and pasting from WP and other news sources is not allowed. WP Info, if properly sourced on Wikinews, can be rewritten to fit into the article. DragonFire1024 20:53, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I put a paraphrased non copy of the info on the talk page of the article with sources. If you want to rewrite it, it's there. Sifaka 21:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Death numbers edit

Please see here where it clearly states 33 dead. If you accept this in confirmation i will move the page again. (Grr going to keep me busy on the double redir fixes ;-) --MarkTalk 21:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

LOL ok...I just did not see a source...is that source in the article?? DragonFire1024 21:31, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Yup was in the article with an old title but it forwaded to a new article. You have chaged it to the new title though. God dont want to see the amount of moves and redirects this has racked up!!!--MarkTalk 21:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
LOL sorry :) I won't change it anymore :) DragonFire1024 21:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Le Monde report on 9/11 knowledge edit

Hi. May I draw your attention to Talk:France knew of al-Qaeda hijack plans prior to 9/11#Inaccuracies?? Tomos 06:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Video edit

Hi, did you get my e-mail re: "Wikinews Video Images and Audio"? --Nzgabriel | Talk 06:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks edit

Thank you for merging ... I tried but you are faster than me :) --Aphaia 20:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

No Problem :) DragonFire1024 20:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Welcomes edit

Why do you send welcomes to users who are not yet registered? How do you know they are not vandals? See: (Welcomes). --SVTCobra 02:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I send welcomes to registerred users only and to anon users who test...Where do you get I was sending them to non-registered users? DragonFire1024 06:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Is this the "welcome" or the "test" message: User talk:71.103.67.189? --SVTCobra 20:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
So I made one mistake...su me...besides the user was already editing and I made the message the same time I warned them about posting rewards. DragonFire1024 20:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
One of these days you're going to welcome a WoW username that goes and does lots of vandalism. It is best to wait until newly registered users have made an edit that doesn't merit the test template or a vandalism warning. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
We have our welcome committee which is supposed to send new users welcome messages...we did this before...and i am just doing what we are supposed to do as the welcome committee. DragonFire1024 20:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I was advised - after starting like you're doing - not to welcome people with zero contributions because they are an unknown. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

can u go onto the IRC, thanks

Then why have a welcome committee? I have always done it like this...personally a welcome message shows them that we are already watching them and are aware of their account and the edits they may make right after creating the user name...IMO. DragonFire1024 20:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Symode09 05:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


Actually, I've never understood the hesitantcy of welcoming users who havn't contrbiuted (weather it is useful or not is a debate for another time). If they are WoW, or some other vandal, so what. WoW is still going to vandalize regardless, the welcome message didn't hurt. Bawolff 22:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dragon, you seem to putting the welcome (or some kind of subst welcome) on user talk pages for which there is no user. (User talk:Saikano). --SVTCobra 19:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Well any welcome message I send to a new user...is from the User Creation Log. DragonFire1024 19:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Were they deleted already? All the ones in red have no user page and no contributions. --SVTCobra 19:50, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Users don't need to have a userpage or contributions to be a user...the creation log is those users who have made an account with Wikinews, but that does not mean they have done anything more than create an account. DragonFire1024 19:54, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes they do. All users have the "User contributions" botton on the bottom left side of the page. User:Saikano is a user as he does have the "User contributions" botton. If a user doesn't, they are not a user and cannot edit with their account; they simply created the page. FellowWikiNewsie 20:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Symode edit

Hey dragonfire, because my mum's work buys the rights to republish ANY work written or bought by reuters, when say reuters receives images from NBC, see http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts for more—Symode09 09:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks edit

Thank you for the welcome. --Wpktsfs 20:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

reverting edit

the rollback button provided for administrators is meant to be used in case of obvious vandalism and disruption and shld'nt be used as a shortcut for reverting good faith edits. "Rollbacks should be used with caution and restraint, in part because they leave no explanation for the revert in the edit summary. Reverting a good-faith edit may therefore send the message that "I think your edit was no better than vandalism and doesn't deserve even the courtesy of an explanation." It is a slap in the face to a good-faith editor. If you use the rollback feature for anything other than vandalism or for reverting yourself, it's polite to leave an explanation on the article talk page, or on the talk page of the user whose edit(s) you reverted." (WP on rollback). –Doldrums(talk) 09:05, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

cut it out dragonfire edit

you remind me of messedrocker that couldn't get used to those buttons you have -Edbrown05 06:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok...I will unblock him and everyone else who wants to act like that...So how about WoW? The user was left messages...he/she was warned...it merited a block and we don't need trolls mongering around on Wikinews. DragonFire1024 06:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
If I have it right, you are calling me a troll. -Edbrown05 06:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
No...you have it wrong :-) The user I blocked is the troll. We just cannot let all of the users like that anonymous one do that...if we let one do it, then others will follow and get away with it... DragonFire1024 06:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, the IP you blocked is me. I know I run up against "standard thinking". Therefore I am glad you blocked me, it only re-enforces the point, whatever that was since you wiped it out (cleanly and completely you censorship SOB). Have a nice day, or night :) -Edbrown05 07:10, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
So ED...using anon IPS to evade a block? I could as well block you for that But I won't as I am now considering myself to be in a dispute with you. What you did was deceiving and evading block. It actually goes more to show what some users will do to evade blocks and cause trouble. Why act in a manner that IMO does not reflect your age? DragonFire1024 07:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Earthlike... edit

How is that a better image? It is tiny and subject to all kinds of restrictions. I will revert to the previous image in 15 minutes if you do not reply. --SVTCobra 03:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

One: The image listed previously is on commons with no sources, and is not "free" to use on commons as the ESO's image policy states. I know its small, but unless those images can be sourced on Commons they will be deleted, and I have informed them of it. WHo are we to know who created tose images.
Also, none of the observations of this planet were made by NASA. In fact, NASA had nothing to do with this discovery. Those images are also falsely representing the license. DragonFire1024 03:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, well I just go by Commons. I don't use anything that's not on Commons and I'll use anything on Commons (as long as it's not already tagged) and as long as it is on there it is not Wikinews' problem, it's Commons' problem.
But the fact that NASA didn't discover or have anything to do with the discovery is totally irrelevant to the discussion of images (all of which are artists impressions since it is so far away).
Moving on... How do you know that that little picture is ok by ESO standards? Their statement is about 300dpi and above images. Shouldn't you find the image on ESO.org instead of space.com? You're adding an extra level of implied trust in space.com that they didn't alter or do anything to violate ESO's copyright. I'd rather trust Commons, there are lots of dillegent people who will take down copyrighted material as it is discovered. With your upload, I not sure if enough qualified people will review it. (I am certainly not qualified)
--SVTCobra 03:59, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Space.com only uses images from 3rd party sites unless otherwise noted. Those Commons images had over a to be reviewed. They were uploaded in 2006. DragonFire1024 04:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Hopefully the free one's copyright will be sorted out soon, as i too like commons better. However at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if the commons image was deleted rather soon by those diligent people. Bawolff 04:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
The commons images have been up since 2006. DragonFire1024 04:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes i know. However it will be a candidate for speedy deletion in two weeks. Bawolff 05:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
OK, but how did you know that the Commons image is not properly licensed? Are there tell-tale signs? I would like to know for future reference. Also, if you are aware that the image on Commons is a copy-vio, aren't you obligated in some why to tag it as such over there? --SVTCobra 13:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

New redirect from move edit

I think it's safe to delete the US Deputy Secretary of State Randall L. Tobias resigns redirect created by the move. Anybody who comes across it would find it to be a bit misleading. —Zachary talk 05:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)