Talk:Wikinews attends Animeleague's summer 2023 Birmingham, UK Anime & Gaming Con

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All photos I took of the event can be found here. I have approached LELE for an email interview as I was a touch short on time. I'll TRY and parse the Q&A segment I recorded with D.C. Douglas, but you really cannot hear the questions. I believe he repeated a few of the questions before answering, so I will at least be able to paraphrase the question and then provide the full answer. All cosplay photos were correctly asked for. I arrived on the Sunday at 11:00, and the event at about 14:00, as I am disabled and seating wasn't the most plentiful when things started to busy up. Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 13:23, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

I have now approached both LELE and Meowgical Rosie via email. @Heavy Water would I be OK to forward the emails to you once I've received responses? Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 19:48, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Sure. Heavy Water (talk) 20:00, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

All proof that isn't email is now in the Photos album. Most "proof" photos also worked nicely as article photos, so you can find a lot of the proof directly there. Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 21:08, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Review timeframe

Hi @Heavy Water, just wondering when you'll get around to reviewing this? I'm just worried about it going stale is all. Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 11:15, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

No need to worry about staleness. OR can easily retain freshness for a month after the focal event — it's not uncommon for reputable news organizations to publish two to four weeks after (at least, here in the US). I may be able to start this weekend. This looks to me like it's solid FA material. Heavy Water (talk) 14:12, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Alright! One thing I'm a tiny bit disappointed by is how few people I managed to actually interact with at the event. It was only LELE and the cosplayers who I really spoke to. I think the extensive post-event interviewing has managed to keep it on a high level, but I hope at Insomnia next week I can get some more in-person stuff! I ended up getting quite sick from this event, which is a risk you just have to take with this style of thing, eg. Comic-Con is infamous for it. I unfortunately had to throw away a good interview I got with someone about Manchester Pride because I'm just not up to researching and writing an article before it's no longer relevant. I'll be well for i71! Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 22:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Ah, yeah. It is your first field reporting, after all. I hope you're feeling better. Heavy Water (talk) 17:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, doing much better! All geared up for Insomnia tomorrow, which should be good to report on too! It's a huge event so I'll get a lot of content out of it. Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 21:56, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Ah. Can you please confirm, in your notes above, the day you attended and your arrival time? While Commons' metadata makes clear the images were taken during that time, I would prefer if you explicitly stated this. (It's rather crucial information, so I can't just cut it as unverified.) Heavy Water (talk) 22:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Asheiou? Heavy Water (talk) 15:55, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

How would you prefer I do this? I'm not sure how to handle it. Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 17:21, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

I meant just commit it to writing here like you did "I left the event at about 14:00". Heavy Water (talk) 18:27, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I gotcha. Done! Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 18:49, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Hey Ash, I've started in on this (finally). Could you clarify here about Lovelock's presence at the August 27 Q&A? The schedules say it was a "Q&A w/ D.C. Douglas & Elsie Lovelock", which seems to imply she was also there taking questions, but she's not mentioned in the article and I didn't see her in the video. Did she take over after you left? Whatever the answer, I think we should make some mention of her participation in the article. I've just got the Gallery section left to review, BTW, after which I plan to briefly look the whole article over once more. Heavy Water (talk) 04:05, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

I didn't see her at the event. The schedule mentions her, so I assume she probably started taking questions after I'd gone, but she wasn't anywhere near the panels stage while I was there. Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 15:51, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

It actually appears she couldn't make it. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0aXpKj8FL1xP7X6S3rUknDfkMNyPVXftuxsjU3YYtNJUd8ixz3yRbW1TruxYRenFel&id=100064946610082&sfnsn=scwspmo Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 15:52, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Oh, OK. Can you add the Facebook post as a source, please, and remove mention of her from the "Other events" section (and add explanation of her absence, if desired). I was also meaning to ask you about when that Q&A began: Schedule said 13:00, article said 13:15, so I brought the article into agreement. Was 13:15 correct? I ask because you were there when it actually happened and the metadata dates it to 13:30, which seems most likely to be the end of the video, placing the start of the Q&A about 13:18. Heavy Water (talk) 21:12, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

13:15 was correct. There was a 15 minute delay due to D C Douglas misremembering the panel time. Ash Thawley (talk) (calendar) 21:38, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Review of revision 4745275 [Passed]

Revision 4745275 of this article has been reviewed by Heavy Water (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 08:13, 18 September 2023 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: This was a large undertaking that produced some very fine OR. Thanks. I've never reviewed anything of this magnitude before, and it's 3 AM here, so I apologize for any mistakes I may have made here. Please provide more extensive notes in the future. The rule of thumb is to provide more than could possibly be necessary in the review. I cut a lot likely accurate but not documented by sources, your photos and videos, or the minimalistic notes above. One of these items was D. C. Douglas' "sizzle reel", as I was unable to identify from your video the reel's name or really anything besides "there was a video played", preventing me from verifying what was played was the same video as the one listed in sources, which left the source video unnecessary. If possible, it would be great to provide documentation in notes (or otherwise) for at least some of that stuff and restore it within the 24-hour deadline set by WN:ARCHIVE. I think it could improve the copy. (On that note, it would be neat to get some video in here.) I reworded the "we interviewed them" statements for LELE and Meowgical Rosie somewhat, as at least one of the queries themselves (LELE's) was sent while the convention was still ongoing and I feel unsure if we should define the time of the interview as the time the responses were sent. Please note WN:TIME and WN:SG#Acronyms. I’m confused as to why the schedule doesn't mention the Anime Opening Quiz and instead seems to imply the Big Gaming Quiz continued until the Q&A began at 13:00. It's possible the Big Gaming Quiz was replaced with the Anime Opening Quiz, but we're now insulated from incorrectly stating the Big Gaming Quiz happened. In general, I think we should avoid expressing opinions during interviews, like "That's really impressive", excluding usual politeness, of course, just as we adhere to neutrality by not asking leading questions. What may be interesting to note, but I certainly don't see as necessary: LELE's nationality (as the other interviewees' are noted) and, for captions, which hall the photos accompanying them were taken. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 4745275 of this article has been reviewed by Heavy Water (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 08:13, 18 September 2023 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: This was a large undertaking that produced some very fine OR. Thanks. I've never reviewed anything of this magnitude before, and it's 3 AM here, so I apologize for any mistakes I may have made here. Please provide more extensive notes in the future. The rule of thumb is to provide more than could possibly be necessary in the review. I cut a lot likely accurate but not documented by sources, your photos and videos, or the minimalistic notes above. One of these items was D. C. Douglas' "sizzle reel", as I was unable to identify from your video the reel's name or really anything besides "there was a video played", preventing me from verifying what was played was the same video as the one listed in sources, which left the source video unnecessary. If possible, it would be great to provide documentation in notes (or otherwise) for at least some of that stuff and restore it within the 24-hour deadline set by WN:ARCHIVE. I think it could improve the copy. (On that note, it would be neat to get some video in here.) I reworded the "we interviewed them" statements for LELE and Meowgical Rosie somewhat, as at least one of the queries themselves (LELE's) was sent while the convention was still ongoing and I feel unsure if we should define the time of the interview as the time the responses were sent. Please note WN:TIME and WN:SG#Acronyms. I’m confused as to why the schedule doesn't mention the Anime Opening Quiz and instead seems to imply the Big Gaming Quiz continued until the Q&A began at 13:00. It's possible the Big Gaming Quiz was replaced with the Anime Opening Quiz, but we're now insulated from incorrectly stating the Big Gaming Quiz happened. In general, I think we should avoid expressing opinions during interviews, like "That's really impressive", excluding usual politeness, of course, just as we adhere to neutrality by not asking leading questions. What may be interesting to note, but I certainly don't see as necessary: LELE's nationality (as the other interviewees' are noted) and, for captions, which hall the photos accompanying them were taken. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.