Talk:US undergraduate commits suicide after 'outing' via webcast

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I'm not touching this for fear of edit conflicts, but:

1. Don't bold subject name
2. Spell numbers of 20 or less
3. Write as now (eg, 'last week' instead of Sept 22)
4. Never write from one source then seek corroboration
5. Active voice

HTH. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 18:51, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

This also seems like an inherently local story; not really nationally relevant, much less internationally. perhaps something in the story about the relevance of this story outside the local community it comes from? ie why should we care more about some freshmen at Rutgers than we do about similar suicides all over the place?

Merpius (talk) 21:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm in England; I picked up on it from BBC News, TV. Chzz (talk) 04:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

This is fairly major for the LGBT community both throughout Amerika and to some extent further afield. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 17:45, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Review of revision 1104962 [Passed]

Revision 1104962 of this article has been reviewed by Diego Grez (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 20:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: None added. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 1104962 of this article has been reviewed by Diego Grez (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 20:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: None added. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

This really shouldn't have been published until its stylistic errors were addressed. Blurpeace 20:19, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

• A number of those I pointed out above are still there. Additionally, there should never be sighted revisions prior to an article passing a full peer review. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 20:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

• I pointed Chzz in the right direction re: FlaggedRevs on IRC. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 20:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
• I, unfortunately, lost a substantial c/e and just settled for the lede. Point 4 above, however, is crucial... I think we've some coverage on the litigeousness of AP. When I saw this and commented there was only a single source. I've not checked how many of those listed are dupes, or regurgitation of AP's, as you well know that's common these days. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 21:11, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

• I didn't use just one source; I've used content from many sources, which contain facts that are not present in AP. And I continue to try to improve it. It was first published with three sources.
• I'll take on-board the stylistic issues noted.
• Sorry for my prior misunderstanding of the sighted revisions issue; I have explained the reasons for my misunderstanding, and apologised, to Blood Red Sandman, and am now clear on the need for independent sighting. I offered to revert to a prior sighted version, but Blood Red Sandman has kindly reviewed the article and now sighted a current version.
• Please do let me know when I fuck things up, always. Thanks, Chzz (talk) 21:20, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Categories

I'm surprised, looking at the list of distinguished editors in the page history, how many people failed to spot that there were no categories, before or after publishing! Bencherlite (talk) 22:23, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Picture

I would like to question the ethics of including the guy's picture in the article. Sure, I know media in the UK, and probably the US, do that all the time, but I don't think Wikinews should stoop to that level. It adds nothing to the story, and only adds more stress to the family and friends of the person in question. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 00:58, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I added the picture. On a personal level, when I saw his picture, the story had a lot more impact on me. I'm quite happy to discuss and hear other views. Yes, indeed, the facebook pics are plastered all over other news articles (and have been broadcast on TV). I'm all in favour of discussion; personally, I think the impact it lends the story is worthwhile, but I do respect your opinions, so I hope others will comment here. Chzz (talk) 01:21, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

What Chzz says holds true. Using the photograph forces you to confront a person, instead of a name, when considering the story. People are not names, numbers or statistics. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 17:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Dharun Ravi

Every single news source referenced gives the perpetrators name as Dharun Ravi. Why does this article give it as Dhraum Ravi? --199.4.27.122 (talk) 10:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Quite simply, it was a typing error, and nobody had noticed the mistake. I've just changed it. Next time, remember, anyone can click 'edit' and help with articles. Thanks for pointing it out. Chzz (talk) 15:33, 1 October 2010 (UTC)