Talk:Over 270 civilians reported killed from shelling in Syria

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Pi zero in topic Review of revision 4222148 [Passed]

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Sources and paywalls/subscriptions edit

Surprisingly, the NYT article is accessible — if opened in an Incognito/Private browsing window. They've been a serious problem in the past as Wikinews does not accept paywalled/subscription sources. Unfortunately, the WSJ article will have to be dropped from sources as it demands a sign-in/subscription.

The rationale behind rejecting paywalled sources is that nobody should need to give away any personal data, or actually pay, to verify the content of a Wikinews article. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:54, 1 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Many sources edit

@Nicholas Preddey: @Nudge:

There is many sources. This means it may easily take an hour and a half to read them all and process the information therein.

Are they all used in the writing of the article? If they're not, they may be removed.

(The sources section is only for listing sources which the information was pulled from into the article, not for listing every possible source about this topic. That makes reviewer's work easier.)

--Gryllida 07:19, 3 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

The first two paragraphs edit

To put the event upfront, would it be better to rewrite the first two paragraphs as following?

On Tuesday in the Syrian city of Idlib, rebels of the Jaysh Al-Fateh fired mortar shells and rockets at the communities of Al-Fou’aa and Kafraya. This was allegedly a retaliatory action for Russian airstrikes on these targets. Later, eight injured civilians were treated at a local field hospital.
Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, said yesterday that United States is requesting Russian airstrikes avoid targeting the al-Qaeda branch in Syria, the Al-Nusra Front. The United States defended its request to Russia, saying it asked Russia to avoid hitting civilians, but Russia denies it has been causing civilian casualties. The situation is fluid, with denial and rebuttal.

That is something I am not sure of -- whether the focal event needs to be the yesterday one or the Tuesday one with further fresh developments in next paragraph.

Verb forms edit

From my understanding the article needs to be rewritten in past tense. --Gryllida 08:21, 4 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

«Russian airstrikes» edit

The allegation that these were Russian airstrikes seems to be a subject of a debate. I have not yet read deeply enough to figure out what evidence there is.

If there is a remaining doubt in the fact, we could just say «Tuesday's airstrikes» instead.

--Gryllida 08:24, 4 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Headline edit

I am not seeing a direct connection from the 'hospitals' in the headline to the lede, or even to the second paragraph.

May we name this "Kurdish militias targeted in northern Syria" instead? (Assuming that fact has been established for sure, with little controversy.) --Gryllida 02:58, 5 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Yes please - can we rename the story.

When viewing the article page (not this collaboration page), on the control bar at the top of the page, on the far right there should be a drop-down menu. "move" or "rename" on that menu changes the name of the article. --Pi zero (talk) 00:50, 6 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
Move link. --Gryllida 00:53, 6 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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