Talk:Belfast
Latest comment: 2 years ago by JJLiu112 in topic April 2022
April 2022 edit
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Why have this page, when we don't have similar ones for Boston, which has a town in England with 35,000 people; Richmond, Virginia, a city in California with 100,000+ people, etc? If we don't have enough articles on Belfast, Maine to make it an article, why keep a disambig for it? Why not just redirect to Belfast, Northern Ireland? --JJLiu112 (talk) 07:26, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- @JJLiu112: Agreed. I’ve redirected to the category. [24Cr][talk] 13:47, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Acagastya: See the above request. I disagree with this disambiguation for those reasons. [24Cr][talk] 19:58, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- I know that Pi zero disliked Wikipedia's practice of having redirects point to the most commonly used target, arguing it was subjective and played favorites. He much preferred disambiguation pages and created {{mainspace disambig}} specifically for that purpose. This is a very useful tool and I used it myself for George Bush; but he and I disagreed on when it should be used. I feel that for geo-cats it is not useful when there is a great disparity in usage. I echo JJ's sentiment above, especially when Wikinews only has one category. It is a veritable Pandora's box where Paris should point to a disambiguation page for Paris, France and Paris, Texas, just to list another example. Where I agreed with Pi zero, are cases like Obama, where Wikipedia points straight to Barack Obama. Cheers, --SVTCobra 20:35, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- When a disambig is added already, one should not be putting the effort removing it -- a little bit of precaution and future-proofing does not hurt as much as when things need to be moved when there wasn't much future-proofing.
•–• 20:59, 10 April 2022 (UTC)- Belfast is currently used in 14 articles, all of which are intending to point to Category:Belfast, Northern Ireland. What is more work? Changing a disambiguation to a redirect or fixing the archive? What if someone suddenly changed Paris to a disambiguation? Would we be obliged to fix the archive or simply undo it? Cheers, --SVTCobra 21:10, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- I completely agree. Obama could be either Barack or Michelle, there are articles on them both. Belfast, Maine has a population under seven thousand, while Belfast, Northern Ireland has many articles categorised under it already. --JJLiu112 (talk) 21:17, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- When a disambig is added already, one should not be putting the effort removing it -- a little bit of precaution and future-proofing does not hurt as much as when things need to be moved when there wasn't much future-proofing.
- I know that Pi zero disliked Wikipedia's practice of having redirects point to the most commonly used target, arguing it was subjective and played favorites. He much preferred disambiguation pages and created {{mainspace disambig}} specifically for that purpose. This is a very useful tool and I used it myself for George Bush; but he and I disagreed on when it should be used. I feel that for geo-cats it is not useful when there is a great disparity in usage. I echo JJ's sentiment above, especially when Wikinews only has one category. It is a veritable Pandora's box where Paris should point to a disambiguation page for Paris, France and Paris, Texas, just to list another example. Where I agreed with Pi zero, are cases like Obama, where Wikipedia points straight to Barack Obama. Cheers, --SVTCobra 20:35, 10 April 2022 (UTC)