User talk:RockerballAustralia/Archive 5

Latest comment: 10 years ago by RockerballAustralia in topic DanielTom e-mail

Talk:Australian Security Intelligence Organisation website hacked, blueprints stolen

I have left a comment at Talk:Australian Security Intelligence Organisation website hacked, blueprints stolen. I have some serious concerns about the article that you passed, especially since your review comments failed to address things from the previous reviews the led to the article not being passed. (There was ZERO discussion about why you published the article under that name despite previous reviewer comments.) If you could drop by and explain your review, how you addressed concerns by previous reviewers, and your rational regarding the name, that would be fantastic. --LauraHale (talk) 03:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

This situation is a horrible mess; I feel awful about it, and I'm sorry to say you should probably feel pretty much the same. It looks to me as if you're disqualified from review at this point, too, though I think we badly need your input to untangle what happened and what can happen going forward, here. It really hurt me to unpublish, but under the circumstances I couldn't see any alternative. Whether it's possible to publish some form of the article later, I have no idea. --Pi zero (talk) 12:31, 29 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

With hindsight, I can think of at least one alternative way I might have handled the situation, rather than unpublishing — I'm not sure the alternative would have been better, but expect I'll be thinking deeply about it. The thing is, of course, we don't really have a standard procedure for handling this sort of situation in our workflow, as it's so rare and our primary emphasis is (and should be) on preventing it from happening the first place. But we all know we mean to scale up as the infrastructure comes on-line to allow us to do so, and how to handle this sort of thing will need to be thrashed out. I think I'll start a water cooler thread. --Pi zero (talk) 15:19, 29 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Wikinews:Water cooler/policy#Australian Security Intelligence Organisation website hacked, blueprints stolen. --Pi zero (talk) 16:03, 29 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter - Edition 1, June 1, 2013

The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter

Sharing news about the group's activities
and things taking place on local Wikinews projects.

Key resources

Issue 1 - June 1/2, 2013

The Wikinewsie Group News

Since mid-April, supporters of The Wikinewsie Group have been quite active, doing a number of activities in support of the organization. These include selecting a provisional board, engaging in research projects, working to support original reporting, discussing setting up off-line events, and promoting our efforts and the broader work being done by Wikinews reporters.

  • On May 4, a meeting was held to select the provisional board. It was decided that the board would be composed of the following people: LauraHale (Chair), Pi zero, Brian McNeil, Bjarki, ProtoplasmaKid. The total number of people and roles was based on the draft bylaws. 18 people, a little under half of all people who were listed as supporters, attended the meeting. aff-comm has been advised of this, and that we are ready to discuss the group's bylaws with them. They have responded back to indicate their review will start shortly.
  • Tentative steps are being taken to have a Wikimedia conference in Iceland with a Wikinews workshop as a component of it. This would likely be in December to coincide with the 10th birthday of Icelandic Wikipedia. Having some discussions about the possibility of having a small Wikinews conference somewhere in Europe sometime in the next year.
  • Wikinews:GLAM was created after writing about previous experiences with GLAM projects on English Wikinews and content related to GLAMs across all projects. Hopefully, with groundwork underway, there should be two announcements about Wikinews and GLAM projects by the end of June that will build upon previous success.
  • It does not look like there is a single presentation about Wikinews at Wikimania in Hong Kong has been approved. Given that, plans are to have some sort of Wikinews meetup while there independent of the official tracks.
  • Efforts are underway to do a better job at translating articles from one language to another, and successfully guide them through any local review processes. This is not a one way street of material from English Wikinews to other languages: We have successfully had two articles start on Spanish Wikinews that were translated to English Wikinews, where they passed the local review process and were successfully published. Comments on this effort are welcome at The Wikinewsie Group/Project planning and User talk:LauraHale: WORTNET.
  • Efforts are underway to develop a matrix to understand key policy, community and content requirement differences between different Wikinews projects. Once complete, this should ease cross Wikinews collaboration by having a starting point to discuss content related issues when translating for review, and trying to standardize any policies across projects.
  • Four pieces of research have been completed. They include Blocks on English Wikinews, Wikinews:GLAM/Coverage, Research:Wikinews Review Analysis and English Wikinews and the Gender Gap. If you are doing any research, formally or informally, about any language Wikinews project, please share it with The Wikinewsie Group as it will help better inform our decisions.
  • The development of a reviewing tool for English Wikinews continues. There are some concerns that the future roll out of Lua may hinder this. Once complete, this tool should make it easier for reviewers to leave feedback and check articles against all criteria.
  • Migration of the server to Iceland should be complete by the end of June. Once funding is secure, one of the first upgrades to the server will be to create a secure server and a dedicated host in order to encourage more investigative reporting and reporting of embargoed news stories. The server could also be used for development of bots, and mobile reporting tools. The planning is being done to give The Wikinewsie Group cloud space to host reporting notes, video and audio to support journalism efforts.
  • Icelandic Wikinews and Malayalam Wikinews are both hosted on incubator. The Icelandic Wikimedia mailing list and Indian editors have been contacted to encourage local editors to get the projects viable to move to the main space.
  • On social media, a few The Wikinewsie Group supporters are answering questions about Wikinews on quora. This is part of an effort to expand awareness about the Wikinews in general.
  • Follow @wikinewsie, The Wikinewsie Group on Twitter. Please tweet us any original reporting you are aware of on any project so we can tweet about it.

Original reporting

This list is May 1 to May 15.

See also: Авторський репортаж.
See also: Wikinoticias:Reportajes originales sin notas, Artículos publicados.
See also: Оригинальные репортажи, Опубликовано.
See also: Førstehand, Publisert.
See also: Reportage original, Article publié.
See also: Notizia originale.
See also: 原创报导, 已发布.
See also: Reportatges originals.
See also: Materiały autorskie.
See also: Original reporting, Published.


Sorry I haven't gotten to your photo essay yet. I'm really hoping to get to it later this evening. --Pi zero (talk) 00:02, 30 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

DanielTom e-mail

Hi. Please be extremely careful with the e-mail. My advice is, you do not open it like I did not. Neither of us have CU privileges. Neither of us have OTRS access as far as I know. There is no indication that the user had permission to share sensitive personal documents about another person before sending. The latter is EXTREMELY troubling to me. Unless permission is given by the other party for a legitimate purpose, you really should not be looking at their personal documents. --LauraHale (talk) 06:01, 1 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Extremely troubling to me too. Luckily for the other party, I don't have a mind to what was sent in any way.
I was considering whether I'd jumped the gun on blocking the relevant user, but considering there is no evidence (provided to us) that the user had permission to send personal ID of another person, I think the block stands. --RockerballAustralia c 06:09, 1 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Neither one of us are subject to meta:Access to nonpublic data policy, which is why the huge concerns on that issue. I was debating an indef block on the sharing of private, personal information to project participants over an onwiki dispute in a way that appears to violate WMF policy because of the hugely troubling nature of the content alleged to have been sent. (And because if one of my siblings did that without my consent, the anger would be huge.) --LauraHale (talk) 06:28, 1 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'm fairly sure if either of us shared such information we'd be breaking Australian law. I've just informed the user that the block stands -- RockerballAustralia c 06:41, 1 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
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