Talk:US National Football League to fine teams if athletes kneel during national anthem

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Recalling what happened in the past -- this article is not abandoned, I am working on it -- just because I have not saved the revision does not mean I am afk.
•–• 02:58, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Crime and law?

Both the category and infobox seem a bit extreme here. The rules established by the league aren't on the level of law. And certainly, nobody is talking about crimes here. Moral crimes, notwithstanding. --SVTCobra 14:25, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Attribution needed

"Though Kaepernick and other athletes have been exercising their constitutional rights" ... says who? That is not at all an objective or even true statement about the First Amendment. --SVTCobra 15:39, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Paragraph with Obama and Trump quotes

Remove "even" or replace it with "also". Since the Obama quote was dated, Trump made those comments in 2017, not after the focal event. --SVTCobra 17:51, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Review of revision 4408867 [Passed]

Revision 4408867 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 20:46, 25 May 2018 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: I hesitated over the term "African-American". We don't, after all, refer in Wikinews's own voice to US citizens in general as "Americans". On the other hand, it's awkward to say "blacks" in this context, because frankly a lot of "African-Americans" don't have particularly dark skin. After some exploration of sources, and consideration, I decided that since it's made quite clear this is about the US, "African-American" was clear enough, and there was no need to worry further about it for this article. I don't, however, wish to set this an exemplar for future articles; I'd like to find a neater solution for this designation. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 4408867 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 20:46, 25 May 2018 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: I hesitated over the term "African-American". We don't, after all, refer in Wikinews's own voice to US citizens in general as "Americans". On the other hand, it's awkward to say "blacks" in this context, because frankly a lot of "African-Americans" don't have particularly dark skin. After some exploration of sources, and consideration, I decided that since it's made quite clear this is about the US, "African-American" was clear enough, and there was no need to worry further about it for this article. I don't, however, wish to set this an exemplar for future articles; I'd like to find a neater solution for this designation. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

I must reiterate my disagreement with the use of category:Crime and law and {{Crime and law}}. There is no crime being discussed. There is no law involved with this, despite people bringing up the First Amendment. This is an article about a corporate policy and the public sentiment surrounding it. category:Economy and business would be more applicable than crime and law. --SVTCobra 21:46, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

My suggestion of Economy and business, was not to say it would be the best. In all seriousness, I think this should be using {{Sports}} or {{Politics and conflicts}}. --SVTCobra 22:01, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

@SVTCobra: Alternative possibility suggested. Sight/revert/revise? --Pi zero (talk) 22:13, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

How about {{United States}}? It does seem to be a uniquely American issue. --SVTCobra 22:17, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Did this come out of the Owners Meeting, Rules and Regulation meeting, or an amendment to the collective bargaining agreement. AZOperator (talk) 02:14, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

The article does say owners. --Pi zero (talk) 02:21, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Just curious, the NFL is a huge bureaucracy. Something of this magnitude must have went through a number of groups. AZOperator (talk) 16:15, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Not really. It was just the owners meeting in Atlanta. They say "unanimous" because nobody voted against the rule change, but some owners abstained apparently. The owners probably negotiated that before voting. As such, the Jets' owner, who abstained, has said he will not make team rules against kneeling. If his team is fined, he will pay that fine and not discipline or make the players pay. --SVTCobra 16:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)