Talk:Israel Defense Forces discover tunnel in child's bedroom in Rafah
Review of revision 4785520 [Not ready]
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Revision 4785520 of this article has been reviewed by Cromium (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 22:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
Comments by reviewer: Although this is news, the majority of the article is about other stories and the October 7 events. Although it is good to have background information, in this case it seems the tunnel story is incidental. There also does not appear to be much more on the story except that the Times of Israel mentions the explosives were in bags with the UN logo (from an article on June 6). Also please be careful about using the word "terrorist". It is sufficient to say that the US designated Hamas as a terror organisation. If you read the last paragraph, it shows a bias towards the Israeli side. There us no mention of the other side of the story e.g. how many deaths on the Palestinian side. Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews. |
Revision 4785520 of this article has been reviewed by Cromium (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 22:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
Comments by reviewer: Although this is news, the majority of the article is about other stories and the October 7 events. Although it is good to have background information, in this case it seems the tunnel story is incidental. There also does not appear to be much more on the story except that the Times of Israel mentions the explosives were in bags with the UN logo (from an article on June 6). Also please be careful about using the word "terrorist". It is sufficient to say that the US designated Hamas as a terror organisation. If you read the last paragraph, it shows a bias towards the Israeli side. There us no mention of the other side of the story e.g. how many deaths on the Palestinian side. Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews. |
Okay. Do you want the last paragraph removed? I see you fixed the terrorist issue, sorry. Last paragraph only focuses on Israeli deaths as what triggered an Israeli declaration of war was the attack on them, not the attackers casulties. Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 22:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC) @Cromium:
- Not the attackers casualties but the Palestinian civilian casualties should also be mentioned. [24Cr][talk] 23:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Were there significant Palestinian civilian (not attacking Israel) casualties during the attack on October 7 in israel that I'm not aware of?@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 23:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- We have published articles saying as many as 36,000 civilians have died since then. In the interests of neutrality, we would report both sets of figures - on the Israeli and Palestinian sides. [24Cr][talk] 01:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay I'll add it but...they didn't die during the October 7 attack (which is what that paragraph is about...the start of the war).@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 10:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is irrelevant unless you are dedicated to distorting the impression of the current situation. Do we only count the assassination that kicked off a world war, or also follow up with the massive death toll and war crimes? An excessive retaliatory backlash is notable. Also consider that articles like this one often contain dubious claims in the first place, and can rarely be verified. 216.67.62.63 (talk) 20:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, no, I like (hopefully) everybody else here, try to follow our neutrality policy. Every paragraph/page/article/sentence exists to state some information or collection of related and useful information. That paragraph exists to explain "theres a war happening that started when X happened", to provide useful background. Also, its not a world war, calm down. Whether or not there is war crimes is disputed, and I will not go into that dispute as it is counterproductive. Also, October 7 can't be reasonably described as an assasination. You don't assasinate 1200 people at once by sending 3000. No one said the remainder of the war isn't notable, it is, and that it what this article covers. We also do have a policy that everything must be verified by trust worthy sources. As far as both me and @Cromium can see, everything is verified.
- As well, looking at your IP ranges contributions, you seem to have a pattern of things like this. Please stop. Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 17:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is irrelevant unless you are dedicated to distorting the impression of the current situation. Do we only count the assassination that kicked off a world war, or also follow up with the massive death toll and war crimes? An excessive retaliatory backlash is notable. Also consider that articles like this one often contain dubious claims in the first place, and can rarely be verified. 216.67.62.63 (talk) 20:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hows it now@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 10:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay I'll add it but...they didn't die during the October 7 attack (which is what that paragraph is about...the start of the war).@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 10:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- We have published articles saying as many as 36,000 civilians have died since then. In the interests of neutrality, we would report both sets of figures - on the Israeli and Palestinian sides. [24Cr][talk] 01:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Were there significant Palestinian civilian (not attacking Israel) casualties during the attack on October 7 in israel that I'm not aware of?@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 23:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Review of revision 4785623 [Passed]
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Revision 4785623 of this article has been reviewed by Cromium (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 16:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC).
Comments by reviewer: All identified issues have been dealt with. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer. |
Revision 4785623 of this article has been reviewed by Cromium (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 16:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC).
Comments by reviewer: All identified issues have been dealt with. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer. |
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editMe Da Wikipedian, Cromium: The headline probably should've also attributed the claim, in hindsight. Heavy Water (talk) 18:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)