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Talk:FC Barcelona defeats Sevilla FC 5-4 to win UEFA Super Cup 2015

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@Pi zero: This link tells that the match started at 22:45 local time. There are 90 minutes. Some extra minutes as well. And then a half-an-hour a.e.t. So in those two hours, it was Wednesday in the match venue. Plus, the half time break and all contributed enough to make the phase change. I don't know what was the time in London, but talking about the location where this match was played, it was Wednesday when Barcelona won.
14.139.242.195 (talk) 12:15, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Now, about that diagram. If you were telling about that rectangle on this page, it is the position of those players. If you just rotate it 90 degrees counter-clockwise, you will see that the image on this article and that on UEFA's website are the same thing. If you hover (place your cursor) over the circles, you will find the name of the player, and their jersey number.
I hope that is what you were actually asking about.
It isn't fresh though I wrote it after the event completed and in the meantime, so many other articles came and found their place on the main page. Now this will be deleted, but I hope we won't have any problem with that diagram. I am adding a link to the hovered image. Hope that helps.
14.139.242.195 (talk) 12:21, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Here is the screenshot of the diagram. Since imgur was bothering me, I uploaded it to twitter.
14.139.242.195 (talk) 12:33, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

The point about when the game ended is an interesting one.
I had seen, yes, how to verify the diagram. What I don't know is what any of it means. Well, I think I understand how the diagram shows who is the goalkeeper; but that's about it. --Pi zero (talk) 12:42, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
I guess you might know much about lineup formation. It just gives the information about how the players in a team are positioned on the ground. It is important for any team to know these informations so they can plan accordingly.
14.139.242.195 (talk) 12:53, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't see how to know that time is when the game started rather than when it ended. The only references I can find in sources are one that calls it "Tuesday's ... win" and another that says it happened on "Tuesday night". --Pi zero (talk) 20:15, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
@Pi zero: here, Boris Paichadze Dinamo Arena - Tbilisi 11/08/2015 - 20:45CET (22:45 local time)

Final is written. Image how it appears to me. this.
14.139.242.195 (talk) 20:43, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

I've spent the past hour doing nothing but trying to figure this out. I saw that page within the first five minutes. It says, final. I could see that time meaning "this is when the game started" or "this is when the game ended". It is right that Tblisi time should differ from central European time by two hours, since CET at this time of year is UTC+2. I've also found this, which is tweets made during the game, and you can see that the game ended at about 4:45pm in whatever timezone the times on the tweets were. The times obviously aren't european time, since the game can't have even started yet at 4:45pm in Europe. It would make sense if they were US west coast time since that's where twitter is based, but those numbers don't work either. I think they have to be US east coast time, in which case there's an eight-hour time difference and the game ended about 45 minutes past midnight on Wednesday morning in Tbilisi. But I really would have thought somebody would have remarked on it in some article about the event, and nobody did so; which make sme uncomfortable, as does using all this time-zone arithmetic as the basis for a definitive statement that the game ended on Wednesday. --Pi zero (talk) 21:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
I take it you're not familiar with the "beautiful game" :) - the official starting time is the one at the foot of the UEFA page because that is the regulatory body overseeing the match. It's like when the Super Bowl takes place, we'd go with whatever time the NFL says. So I'd go with 20:45 Georgia (country) time, 11 August, rather than the Twitter time. As for the diagram, this is a standard way of depicting the approximate positions at the start of the match and each time they restart (after a goal is scored). Starting with the blue shirt at the top, that is Barcelona's goal keeper (the two goalkeepers usually wear a different colour to their own team mates because they need to be identifiable). The top row of four white shirts are the Barcelona defensive players, who will usually stay in their half of the field of play. The second and third rows of white shirts (five of them) are Barcelona's midfield players, who will stay generally in the middle during the match. The final white shirt is the Barcelona striker (the best analogy is probably the running backs in American football). His main job is to try to score a goal by putting the football in the opposing team's goal. The same roles apply for the Seville team, green is their goalkeeper, four defenders, three midfielders and three strikers. The thing with "soccer" is that these roles are very fluid, so the striker could just as easily come to the team's own goal area to help the defenders and equally even the goalkeeper could theoretically go and score at the opposite end of the field. I hope that clears things up a bit. If not, don't worry because you're not alone. Green Giant (talk) 21:39, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
My problem wasn't with whether or not it was the official time, nor with converting it to local time where the game was held. My problem was with whether it was the start time or the end time. Providing evidence for a sanity check on that is what I resorted to tweets for. --Pi zero (talk) 00:09, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Minute by minute infoEdit

@Pi zero: If you are unable to find, here, More section, on being clicked will show minute by minute detail.
Extract: 14 Banega (Sevilla) is penalised for a foul on Rakitić (Barcelona).
14.139.242.195 (talk) 23:31, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

I've been poring over that for hours. Point taken, though; the key word there is "penalised". --Pi zero (talk) 23:36, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Review of revision 3745540 [Passed]Edit

CAT requestEdit

{{editprotected}} Please add the following categories to the article.

  1. A.C. Milan


14.139.242.195 (talk) 13:35, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Declined. It's just an incidental reference. --Pi zero (talk) 19:56, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

updateEdit

{{editprotected}} In the footballbox template, update the stadium parameter. Replace it with

|stadium={{w|Boris Paichadze Dinamo Arena}}, {{w|Tbilisi}}, {{w|Georgia (country)|Georgia}}


Agastya Chandrakant ⚽️ 🏆 🎾 🎬 🎤 📰 04:24, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

  Done --Pi zero (talk) 05:12, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
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