File talk:Venus Express.jpg
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I don't see how this use of the image does not constitute "redistribution" and thus this is a copyright violation. --SVTCobra 18:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'd consider use of this image okay under fair use, it needs a rationale. The image seems to be available as part of a press kit so clearly expected to be used elsewhere. This doesn't make it a free image though so it still needs a fair use rationale explaining why we consider it acceptable to use this copyrighted material. Adambro 18:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps a lower-resolution version would be fair-use, as in whatever size we actually display in the article, but this hi-res one seems to be a violation of what they are saying. It is intended for "personal use" not media. --SVTCobra 18:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- They even say you may not display it without written authorization. --SVTCobra 18:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps a lower-resolution version would be fair-use, as in whatever size we actually display in the article, but this hi-res one seems to be a violation of what they are saying. It is intended for "personal use" not media. --SVTCobra 18:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- The whole point of fair use is that we justify using copyrighted materials so of course this image is going to say it's copyrighted. The image is part of a press kit so is clearly expected to be used by the media. I would agree that a scaled down version might be more appropriate though. Adambro 18:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- I added a fair use rationale (but i havn't removed the big scary template, as i'm not sure if it is ok) as this seems like the perfect example of fair use. Originally this is what {{publicity}} was essentially made for. Its part of a press kit, so its specifically made for journalists, we're jornalists reporting on the event, therfor it is fair use to use it in news reporting (IANAL, that is just my geuss...) Bawolff ☺☻ 01:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- The whole point of fair use is that we justify using copyrighted materials so of course this image is going to say it's copyrighted. The image is part of a press kit so is clearly expected to be used by the media. I would agree that a scaled down version might be more appropriate though. Adambro 18:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
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If an image includes an identifiable person, using that image for commercial purposes may infringe that person‘s right of privacy, and separate permission should be obtained from the individual.Although it doesn't explicitly say so, I believe the Venus Express image is one of the "publicly released ESA images". In the article I credited ESA as the source, so I think it's okay. To make sure, I've emailed ESA and will update you when I get a response. Matt Streeter 02:23, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- They replied today and said it's okay to use the image. Matt Streeter 15:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Use of new template proposed edit
I used this image as an example for the use of Template:Non-free use rationale, which I just added. See Wikinews:Water cooler/policy#Non-free fair-use rationale proposal for discussion. --SVTCobra 17:40, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
