Comments:Pressure mounts against Florida church plans to burn Qur'an

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Ironic420:20, 10 September 2010
Protest by bringing fire extinguishers122:52, 8 September 2010
Bad Behavior410:32, 6 September 2010
I can't believe it!017:40, 26 August 2010
The anger of the offended is wasted020:55, 23 August 2010
Oh012:17, 10 August 2010

What kills me is the name of the church: Dove. World. Outreach. Really? The Dove: a traditional symbol of peace. World: as in, seeing outside of your own backyard. Outreach: as in, NOT burning the sacred objects of someone else's faith. These guys got it all wrong. (talk)19:35, 9 August 2010

"Outreach" in this instance means more that they are trying to spread their message outside the bounds of their congregation, which they are clearly doing. I say burn all algebra books. That is a far more insidious Muslim scheme that is TAUGHT IN EVERY AMERICAN SCHOOL. (talk) 17:20, 9 September 2010 (UTC) (talk)17:20, 9 September 2010

Not only Muslim but Iranian. Iranian engineers today probably use algebra to build nuclear power stations, so right thinking people should close their minds to all algebra.

InfantGorilla (talk)20:11, 9 September 2010

Christian fundamentalists are known for two things: Self-Righteiousness and Hypocricy. So, I'm not surprised that another deluded "Christian" Pastor has gone off the deep end. Muslims have suicide bombers and Jihadists, Christianity has bigots, charlatans and lunatics. (talk)16:06, 10 September 2010

I would like to hope that the bigots, charlatans and lunatics are in the minority of the fundamentalists (and in the rest of society.) I find most fundamentalists to be thoroughly decent and caring human beings.

However, now and again, whole chunks of society can be caught up in bigotry, which is the goal of some of the extremists.

InfantGorilla (talk)20:20, 10 September 2010

Protest by bringing fire extinguishers

Hopefully 10,000 thinking people will show up to the event in Gainsville with fire extinguishers. That's the only response that makes sense. Let this broke, in foreclosure church with fewer than 100 members pile up some books. Let the 10,000 open up with their fire extinguishers. (talk)22:47, 8 September 2010

Yep, the guy behind this is stupid, as far as I'm concerned.

Mikemoral♪♫22:52, 8 September 2010

Bad Behavior

You just don't burn books. There's pretty much nothing I agree with in Mein Kampf, but I would never dream of just burning it. Books aren't meant to be burned. (talk)06:05, 9 August 2010

But they are made of paper, and paper burns so well. Didn't you see The Day After Tomorrow ?

ShakataGaNai ^_^06:57, 9 August 2010

The atheist said he didn't want to burn the Bible. (talk)12:59, 9 August 2010

Ha ha, yeah. But I still like you comment. (talk)13:00, 9 August 2010

Yes dont waste the paper by burning. Use it as toilet paper. (talk)10:32, 6 September 2010

I can't believe it!

I can't believe these people will do this! What does the church call itself again? Dove? that means peace doesnt it? i feel like kicking and screaming and shouting, even though im a christian. i just want to..... kill myself (talk)17:40, 26 August 2010

The anger of the offended is wasted

I don't get it. I understand that, in the USA, the church has rights to engage in this behavior, and other religious organizations have the right to protest this action (with neither of these rights overlapping the other in importance), but I don't get what the others who are offended are supposed to do except say some words in reaction, host a few educational interfaith fora, protest in front of the church and that's it. I mean, that's all that the anti-DWOC religious groups in Gainesville are able to do in response, as, I assume, they are prohibited from whipping up a crowd to rescue the "precious" books from destruction.

In addition, I find the offended folks to be a bit daft, since, with the rise of the Internet, the sort of information contained within multiple revisions and linguistic versions of the Qu'ran can be found (just like the Bible or Mein Kampf). All that the church is doing is burning a symbol, and they are hardly engaging in the sort of interfaith diplomacy which they profess to affect by their actions. It's just like the Iranians chanting "Death to America", burning an Israeli flag or kids stabbing their teddy bears and cooking their sister's Barbie dolls: it's only a slightly-misdirected expression of pent-up or authority-aroused rage and demonization that doesn't do anything (not to mention an epic troll that everyone's biting).

Oh, and for the Christians who are saying "nonono we are not like Dove World (or Westboro) because Christianity is about love and peace", what? All of a sudden, all the Christians and Muslims, subscribers to the two most imperialistic faiths of human history want to turn all "Universalist" and "pluralistic" to the infidels and kuffar? Both religions want to downplay the Hell belief which they possess against the unconverted (but which Christianity possesses more against everyone else)? No, please don't make me laugh. I'm an Afro-American atheist who has lived in the middle of Georgia for most of my life, so I understand the Christianity being described by Dove World as being the Christianity in which I grew up and went to church and school. I understand Dove World's Christianity, even without the signs, t-shirts and book burning, as being the default in this region. I understand this Christianity to be the authoritarian, fear-based, zeal-driven mind virus, of whose deity their tender mercies are cruel, which I'll never be able to remove completely from my worldview.

And yet, I think about Dove World down in Gainesville, and the proposed book burning, and I laugh. Really, it doesn't matter that much, and it's not that big of a deal.


Raynevandunem (talk)20:32, 23 August 2010

you assholes. (talk)12:17, 10 August 2010