Wikinews talk:Print edition

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Comeback?

Is there ever going to be any chance that the Wikinews Print Edition will make a comeback? --Rayboy8 (talk) 20:00, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

No chance (at-least by me) as a manually created document. Eventually I will code up some sort of automated generation, but it will likely be a while. --Cspurrier (talk) 20:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

If it's nothing personal/private, would it be incredible nosy of me to ask what went wrong? (Coz I'm asking!) Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 21:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Time issues mostly. It takes about 20 minutes to create each issue, since I started grad school I stopped being able to dedicate that much time everyday. --Cspurrier (talk) 22:00, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

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Consider it brought back. I am going to try to keep this regular. --Mikemoral♪♫ 04:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Edit protected

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Could someone switch it down to auto-confirmed? I want to update the introduction. I'm using OpenOffic.org 3.2.0 and not 2.3. --Mikemoral♪♫ 04:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Done Don't see why it needed fullprotect at all, tbh. Shifted it down to semi. Tempodivalse [talk] 04:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Include photos?

Many times photos are very useful "accessories" to the online articles, so why not put them in print as well? Benny the mascot (talk) 02:12, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I was talking to Mikemoral about a more graphic-centre print edition. With photos and graphics. In a few words, more goodlooking. We all can help doing this dividing the work in groups or from user to user. Thoughts? --Diego Grez ^{let's talk} 02:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, getting a group of people to complete a task is harder than having only one person do it. That especially applies here, where we publish the print edition every day. Benny the mascot (talk) 02:20, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but in a week period is better. Everyone does his task and the print edition is improved. --Diego Grez ^{let's talk} 02:34, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I like it! A weekly edition allows us to showcase our lead articles on the front page while pushing the less important news into subsequent pages. interesting... Benny the mascot (talk) 02:36, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

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Anyways, back to the photos, I'll try to add maps, flags, etc. to the edition tomorrow and see how well that works out. --Mikemoral♪♫ 02:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps Wikinews Weekly? Somewhat catchy. Released each Sunday and that gives me time to actually put together the crosswords that take long to make. --Mikemoral♪♫ 02:40, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Meh...maps and flags are probably unnecessary in print; I rarely see newspapers show them anyway. Other kinds of images could be beneficial, however. Benny the mascot (talk) 04:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I like it. Just let's form a group and divide tasks. Also maps are boring. --Diego Grez ^{let's talk} 12:08, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

What tasks are you thinking of exactly? Benny the mascot (talk) 14:24, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Someone to check the licenses of the pictures, someone to do the main page, etc, etc. --Diego Grez ^{let's talk} 14:26, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Something to ponder, will the people this is aimed at want to use all that colour ink? Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 14:34, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

They can print it in black and white if they want to. Benny the mascot (talk) 14:53, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

True. Still a lot of ink. My understanding is that this is why this wasn't done before. Anyways, I'll leave it to others, print ed isn't really my area. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 14:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Maybe we can publish two versions of the print edition. Also, I noticed that Wikipedia allows you to easily create books out of the articles. Can we use that same service to create our print edition? Benny the mascot (talk) 15:39, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking on make the print edition look more like this. It maybe is too much work for a little group of people, but I have been told that Scribus is very nice doing this job. --Diego Grez ^{let's talk} 15:53, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. How easy would it be to make such a paper, assuming we do it weekly? Benny the mascot (talk) 16:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia uses an extension filed via bugzilla I think to do the w:WP:BOOKS. Imo, it would look unprofessional for a newspaper-type publication. @Diego: Scribus is a pain to use. OpenOffice works much better and gives better output, I think. @Benny: I would have to change up the template lot to make something like that. And I am rather against ever using fair use images. Sticking FURs in the PE would look stupid. --Mikemoral♪♫ 18:31, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, how do you make the print edition anyway? And I agree with you on FU images. Benny the mascot (talk) 23:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I use an OpenOffice template. If you want one, just email me and I'll send it to you. I tried using images today, see File:29March2010.pdf. --Mikemoral♪♫ 23:59, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I saw...personally I feel that the pictures would look much better if you use the format Diego suggested. Just a thought... (you don't need to send me the template, but thanks!) Benny the mascot (talk) 00:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Well Diego showed a real newspaper-style formatting with articles finishing on random pages. This formatting is a bit more straight forward. --Mikemoral♪♫ 00:50, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

But on the current version the photos are getting squeezed. Benny the mascot (talk) 02:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

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My best bet is to fit the photos to the column. --Mikemoral♪♫ 02:21, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Note: the wikipedia books thingy (mw:Extension:Collection) really is much better suited to printing reference-book type things, not newspapers. I imagine it'd be possible to modify it to make more news paper friendly output, but that would be a lot of work. If you guys are considering alternate formatting, take a look at file:Wikinews_Extra-1.pdf, file:Wikinews_Extra 2-1.pdf and file:Wikinews G8 Coverage.pdf (I personally like the way the G8 one looks). Bawolff ☺☻ 02:29, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Who's Ryan? I'd like to try and get the G8 file before it was a pdf. Hopefully it's a odt or doc file. --Mikemoral♪♫ 02:56, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure. It was a bit before my time of becoming really active. (hopefully someone other then File:Ryan Jenkins mugshot Vegas April 2009.jpg). I Don't even know if he did anything other then create those pdfs. According to the file metadata, it was created in Adobe InDesign [1]. Possibly w:User:LockeShocke, who lists his name as Ryan Jenkins, has an interest in graphic design (consistent with designing something like that) and was active around july 2005 at wikipedia [2], but thats just pure speculation. CSpurrier might know more. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Scribd

Would anyone be in favor of posting all of our print editions to Scribd? See the on I posted with the account name "enwikinews" here. --Mikemoral♪♫ 05:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Automated Daily News

I honestly think we should be focusing more time on creating an automated system to do our daily news, it should not be that hard. Maybe also we could just get the wikilords to give us a modified version of the book extension, which would do the articles in collumns, and look a little different than the rest of the media wikis? ☠  Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea ☠ - (T)(C) 18:41, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Its open source - sofixit as they say. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

The "wikilords" don't give us anything. So either, as Bawolff put it, you write it... or it doesn't happen. --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 21:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

When is the next issue coming?

I've been eagerly waiting for the next print edition. The last one hasn't came out since June 7, which is a month ago. Just wondering when the next print edition is coming out.

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Yeah?! ....what he said.Buddpaul (talk) 16:54, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Not that anyone asked....but I've done a'lot of reading about the Print Edition........it's history.....its recent implosion.......in my opinion......the entire idea should be abandoned. With current technologies, I just can't see something like this, that'd take any average person about 3 hours per week (and that's just putting out about 2 issues per week) to compile into something OK-looking. I just don't think the end-result would be worth it. Now, if someone (not me) has loads of time on their hands....go for it, man.Buddpaul (talk) 23:30, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

A small edition is useful for the purposes of daily reference-- people who download the wiki database would appreciate being able to have daily updates to see what changes from Tuesday to Saturday and the like. As a National Forensics League extemporaneous speaker, sources updated daily in one location would be incredibly convenient. -Unregistered User

Mark as historical

Could someone mark this project as {{Historical}}? Thanks. 67.100.127.226 (talk) 07:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Done Added template for you. Hillcrest98 (talk) 18:31, 14 August 2012 (UTC)