Wikinews:Water cooler/technical/archives/2014/December

Labs is causing me to Grinch out!

I'm griping more than 'asking'.......I read over on WP technical that the whole WMF Labs (and most of its wonderful tools) is royally janked up right now! Grrrrrrrr.......!!! The ability to check peoples' edit counts (and loads of other things) leads to the ability to 'reward' them for their efforts easily. The rewards serve as behavioral reinforcement. Behavioral reinforcement leads to warm fuzzies. Warm fuzzies makes people want to come back here (for free, mind you) and continue their work. I know the whole WMF is expensive but there just has to be a way for them to keep some fundamental tools working!! --Bddpaux (talk) 16:38, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that expensive. They spend lots of money on things that do harm to the projects and the communities. The problem is a severe one; it seems that they not only have wrong priorities, they have some sort of completely wrong-headed notion of the nature of wiki projects. I try sincerely to work with them and give them useful feedback, but all the while I have this strong suspicion that it's simply not possible for them to do anything useful with the kind of organizational structure they've created. They've got an apparently facebook-like model of how wikis work, and they're trying to use centralized top-down programming teams to create software for an inherently bottom-up culture. --Pi zero (talk) 18:08, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

VisualEditor News #10—2014

18:59, 26 December 2014 (UTC)