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Hey, I'm always open to construtive criticizm. I don't know if I spelled criticizm right or not, so feel free to angrily attack that. Anyway, I am rather new here, I suppose, and I'm still learning the ropes. I've finally tackled Wikipedia, and I'm out for a new adventure. Go ahead and tell me what I did wrong and what you fixed. Or, just drop me a line. Just start a new Level 2 Headline with your comment under it. Really, it's okay. I value your feedback, as well as your editing skill. Thanks! --wjmoore 05:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Article titlesEdit

Convention on Wikinews is downstyle for headlines, i.e. only proper nouns capitalised. You also have to remember we can never reuse a headline so for sports it is often a good idea to include the season in the title. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


Hello, and welcome to Wikinews!

I'd like to compliment you on your NHL stories, they turn out quite nicely. Here are some more tips to write even better stories; most of them relate to formatting conventions on Wikinews, which come with experience:

  • First of all, you can use the {{MatchScore}} template to summarize the score at the top of the page.
  • Very important: don't sign your articles! It's a common mistake as I made it on my first story on Wikipedia too  . Anyway, you should always sign talk pages, but never on article pages. Articles are written collaboratively by all contributors, so nobody really 'owns' them. Anyone can come and re-write your text.
  • There are quite some nice images on Commons, which you can retrieve by clicking the images on the Wikipedia articles you link to, and see which of them have a free licence and thus are available on Wikimedia Commons, the free media repository from Wikimedia.
  • We generally don't use tags like MADISON SQUARE GARDEN, NEW YORK, NY. Instead, I've just put that info in a normal sentence.
  • Facts should generally be put in the beginning of the article, and analysis at the bottom: that's why I've changed the order of your paragraphs.
  • Sources should always be formatted using the {{source}} template.
  • External links, which should be put below the sources, should be formatted without a semicolon (= | ). Just compare by clicking both links
  • And, as Brian said above, I've changed the title to downstyle capitalization instead of the camelcase you used. You can change titles by clicking the "rename"-tab at the top of each page, similar to the edit-button.

Might seem like a lot of comments, but newbies are allowed to make mistakes, we don't bite the newbies! And as you probably noted, I haven't changed a word to your article because I think it's pretty neat! Just to warn you that sports writing traditionally is very contradicting with our neutral point of view policy, so watch out that you don't write too much subjectively.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Look forward to see more great sports stories from you!

enjoy Wiki, --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

PS: These comments refer to your story NHL: Shorthand a success in Penguins win over Rangers. I made similar changes to your latest story, but I also had to unpublish you latest story US: Several NFL stars released from their teams. As you can see on the bottom of that page, you should use multiple sources, most importantly because you could get sued by the Associated Press because the clearly forbid their stories to be re-written! So it's kinda for your own protection that you should avoid AP if you can, and at least use multiple sources.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews:Sports coverageEdit

A project page has been added for sports coverage at Wikinews:Sports coverage, as one of our sports contributors please stick some details there and add it to your watchlist. The general idea is that it can be a water cooler for sports writers, and a place to coordinate setting up Portal:Sports. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Accredited reporter templateEdit

Just as an aside on the template, you're probably well on the way to earning it. Stick your nose in on the mainstream news and start participating in the policy discussions. That little extra involvement with the community is likely to see you easily able to gain the accreditation status. And it might get you press passes to local games. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Keep up the good workEdit

I see you're still with us, and still writing great sports articles. I couldn't resist doing a minor edit on your Wikipedia user page... Hope you don't mind. ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 15:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I concur, i enjoy reading your hockey articles especially. I've been really out of touch with hockey since i got into soccer, so its nice to get a little info now and then! Also, I like the Penguins because of Crosby, he's a hero up here in Canada :P—Dark Squall 02:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


Hi there, i changed the links on your user page to internal links. Just use double brackets instead of single and you only have to list the article title. its quicker to do and since theres no need for an external link anyway, its more useful. Hope you dont mind.—Dark Squall 02:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem bud, glad i didnt screw anything up :) —Dark Squall 03:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

RE: Leafs v Pengs articleEdit

No problem with finishing it up, hope i did a good job. Thanks for mentioning it! I've started finishing off other peoples sports articles lately because people have been complaining that sports isnt news, and im shoving it in their faces. I'll continue to help out with your articles any way i can. I simply posted the article on your page because i was bored :/ —Dark_Squall 00:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


Hey there, im glad you liked the table, i was hoping you would! anyways, i don't actually make the tables, i simply copy and paste them from the soccer pages that were already made and then change them to fit the situation. this is the one i used: Template:EPL short, and other ones you might want to look at are: Template:EPL, Template:EPL Scorers and Template:Football results short. Anytime you want to use one, just copy paste, change heading (with the !!) and change info (with the | - , etc.) and you can really spruce up articles. hope it helps! —Dark_Squall 03:28, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:Stanley Cup 2007Edit

Now appears on main page in place of the cricket world cup. Bawolff 17:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Hockey Playoff ArticlesEdit

Hey bud, im glad to see your doing all the game articles, really good job. I just wanted to mention to make sure your putting the sports category on each one, i think there were three you missed. Its not a big deal, i can easily change it, i just have a auto-list on my page using the cat:sports, so it makes it easier for me. So if you remember, i would appreciate it. Again, great job on the articles. —Dark_Squall 02:34, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

My RFAEdit

Your welcome for the thing above ^, but i noticed something else. You voted for me on my RFA, and i do appreciate it, but I am not the one doing cricket articles. I believe its Shyam you are thinking of, i do Football stories for the most part. Just wanting to let you know so that your vote is a fair one. Thanks for the support. —Dark_Squall 02:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, don't feel stupid, its very understandable if you don't follow either, thanks again for the support! —Dark_Squall 03:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Better imageEdit

Hey, I did you a favor, I made the Stanley cup logo transparent and re-uploaded it in PNG, since GIF doesn't handle transparency without showing some sucky artifacts. I hope you don't mind. ;) --TUFKAAP 21:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

No to NHL on Front PageEdit

I really have to object. Does the whole world really care about hockey or cricket? No, it should be off the main page. Soccer (Football) on the other hand should be as it is played around the world. 01:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[hope you don't mind me steping into this conversation] We put tournements which we have a series of articles on on the main page. (in the past we've done olympics and others). Is there a soccer tournament currently ongoing. If so, then perhaps you should write a thing on talk:Main Page about adding soccer. Bawolff 02:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
That's ok, its just that not everyone (or at least a large portion of people) care about hockey, on the otherhand there are many more Soccer fans out there (as an example I don't quite care about it either). I just find it annoying to sift through hockey crud to find some real news. 05:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
That's fine, I really can't say I like to watch Soccer. I guess it's just a difference in opinion. Nothing can be done about that. --wjmoore 03:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
The thing is statistically, not many people watch hockey as opposed to Soccer/Cricket (Neither of which I actually like). 22:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Major events like the Stanley cup and cricket are on the main page because of their significance and they have lots of articles. Unless there is a specific reason, other than personal opinion and POV that these sections should not be on the main page, then they will remain. DragonFire1024 23:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
The thing is statistically, not many people are sheep - or chavs - and therefore think that watching football/soccer is only marginally more interesting than that other version of football played in the USA.

Thank YouEdit

I just want to say thanks for cleaning up my articles and if you see any more problems,please fix them. Thank You.--Sumerset 10:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia PennsylvaniaEdit

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Thanks and I hope you sign up! Cbrown1023 talk 16:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)