Can we stop defending someone who committed a crime? by committing a crime you give up your rights to make up for the rights you violated. I know hes not convicted but the military does not act like such if they lack information. So please stop disrespecting the people who make the hard choices because god knows you can't.

Crazynomad (talk)17:45, 8 March 2011

Perhaps you're forgetting that the universal standard of due process is "innocent until proven guilty". Bradley Manning is Accused of a noble and courageous act: putting his career and his freedom on the line so that Americans can see and hear the sordid truth of US Foreign Policy, which the ever more consolidated corporate mainstream media has failed miserably to deliver to them. Tyrants who would subvert the democratic process by covering up their crimes and misdeeds while misinforming the public are not worthy of mine or anyone else's respect.

67.142.172.22 (talk)10:13, 9 March 2011

I guess standards are always correct, i mean look through history, standards are the greatest. Innocent until proven guilty is a system for the public anyway not where you take a oath and become property of the government. As far as the noble and courageous act goes your a fool to think this information will do anything but give our enemy's information. the public is too stupid to care about the truth to actually change the government, they care to much about Jersey shore. if select few know the truth, which is we all know the government is retarded, it won't change anything. His efferts are a complete waste of time and causes a waste of breath.

Crazynomad (talk)16:23, 9 March 2011

You are deeply confused if you believe that members of the US military "take a oath and become property of the government". "Our enemies" already know that the United States kills civilians and attacks journalists. They already know that there are ulterior motives for US military adventures - They don't need to be convinced of these things, they witness them on a daily basis. The fact is, Islamic terrorism would evaporate if the United States had a foreign policy that respected the economic sovereignty of Petroleum-rich nations, balanced Palestinian rights with those of Israelis, and strove for equitable relations and dialogue rather than imperial hegemony and confrontation. The lack of transparency, collusion with multinational corporations and clandestine dealings which shape the United States's Foreign Policy are the greatest threat to democracy our Republic has faced in its 235 year history.

67.142.172.25 (talk)22:28, 9 March 2011

As for the public caring too much about Jersey Shore, the ignorance and complacency of the American public provide a strong argument for more government transparency, not less. Arguing to the contrary is like a doctor telling a patient with Stage III (or stage N) Lung cancer who is chain-smoker: "You're too busy with those cigarettes to be bothered by quitting smoking or starting chemo.

67.142.172.25 (talk)22:49, 9 March 2011
 

Many people have seemed to forget that along w/ the gunsight stuff there's also reports about the safety of our infrastructure and a list of the top-100-so most vulnerable targets.

Oh, and it lists informants & Al Qaeda has publicly said they're going over all the leaks w/ a fine tooth comb. & Assange has said he would release a "life insurance" leak if he was extradited. -You familiar w/ the term: "Extortion?"

169.139.251.249 (talk)12:57, 14 March 2011
 
 

One, he is innocent until proven guilty, but here is a clue for you, it is not universal. In most Countries he would just get a bullet in the back of the head. Even in Europe, Manning could be held indefinately without being charged. But the truth never holds the interest of simple minded people. The conditions Manning is being held in are pretty much the result of his crybaby pandering and whining. "I am going to hurt myself, that will show you!" Guess he got a lesson in reality.

143.79.13.6 (talk)03:49, 12 March 2011
 

Crazynomad I hope your joking and Im falling in to your trap by biting but "the military does not act like such if they lack information" ....can you not think of ANY examples of poor or fabricated intelligence based on which the US and UK have committed to military envolvement in recent history?!?!?! Think hard - I'll give you a clue; it wasnt Iran, N. Korea, Zimbabwe or currently Libya

Mcchino64 (talk)20:57, 11 March 2011