Talk:Vettel becomes youngest Formula One champion

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Revision 1130054 of this article has been reviewed by Blood Red Sandman (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 22:39, 16 November 2010 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Verifiability: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. NPOV: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Style: Not ready: Articles need a minimum of three paragraphs; this has just one paragraph on the actual event. Comments by reviewer: Why is the same photo up twice? Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Review of revision 1130590 [Failed]

Revision 1130590 of this article has been reviewed by Nascar1996 (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 03:11, 18 November 2010 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Not ready: Couldn't verify pre-race points. NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: I had problems verifying pre-race points, and the amount of days old he was (which I removed). Maybe next time. Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Revision 1130590 of this article has been reviewed by Nascar1996 (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 03:11, 18 November 2010 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Not ready: Couldn't verify pre-race points. NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: I had problems verifying pre-race points, and the amount of days old he was (which I removed). Maybe next time. Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

At least some of the other information may be in the raft of interlinked articles in The Telegraph, which the author seems to have treated as a "single" source. The 135 day figure is in "Sebastian Vettel factfile" — but unfortunately that page also says his birthday is July 3, which by my arithmetic is 133 days before November 13, rather than 135. I don't know exactly what to look for in the way of "pre-race points" (and when I tried, I thought I found something contradicting the WN article, but wasn't sure...). --Pi zero (talk) 13:45, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

• I went investigating. To the right of the main text in the Torygraph, hidden amongst the ads, there is a scrolling table of the final race points. This article mentions how many they won this race; you imply above you can verify those figures, so a bit of math can verify the pre-race numbers. The table gives the final points after this race as: 256 for Vettel, 252 for Alonso, 242 for Webber and 240 for Hamilton. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 20:00, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes Blood Red Sandman, I didn't see all of that, but still the article does not have a source the pre standings prior to the race, unless youe expect the viewers to subtract the 25 from the totoal to get pre-race? Can you do this? I wasn't sure. I though you couldn't, though.Nascar1996 20:12, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
    • The key point is to verify it, and allow people to see how we did that. After all, most people will not double-check our facts; displaying the sources is really a transparency thing. The idea is people can see where it came from, rather than that they should themselves verify the whole piece. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 20:17, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
      • If your're saying it can be published anyways, readd it and I'll publish it. Also, why isn't any of my articles added to the main page? Nascar1996 20:22, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
        • I am, assuming you actually check the numbers against the source. As for adding articles to the main page, feel free to use WN:ML to do it yourself. (All articles appear on the Main Page, but not all are guaranteed to go on a lead). I tend to place sport on leads 3, 4 or 5 (on rare occasions when I actually edit the leads), but it's always a judgement call on what stories have been published and how long things have been there when deciding what goes on which lead. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 20:26, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
          • Do you think that I didn't read them? I think this is interesting so I read it! So will you please add the {{review}} please? Nascar1996 20:30, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
            • Hehe, just making sure in case you thought I was saying I'd checked the maths myself. Template added. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 20:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
              • Okay, I thought you was doubting that I read them. Nascar1996 20:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
                • I added the direct link to pre-race standings as well as to the final standings from one of the sources; ESPN_F1. SputniK 79 (talk) 21:54, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
                  • The thought is appreciated, but the article was verified from the sources at the time or it wouldn't have been published. Keep in mind that the sources section is a record of how the article was verified, rather than a set of external links to "read more about it". It's also too late to make substantive changes; that's only allowed for the first 24 hours after publication. --Pi zero (talk) 22:56, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Review of revision 1130930 [Passed]

Revision 1130930 of this article has been reviewed by Nascar1996 (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 20:36, 18 November 2010 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: After the talkpage discussions, we have decided to pass the article. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 1130930 of this article has been reviewed by Nascar1996 (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 20:36, 18 November 2010 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: After the talkpage discussions, we have decided to pass the article. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.