Talk:Russian traveler presented an unusual textbook at the literary festival

Notes

I will delete some of the sources if necessary. Виктор Пинчук (talk) 05:44, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

@Michael.C.Wright:Does this (Review of revision 4798406) mean I should no longer write news articles for the English section? — Виктор Пинчук (talk) (P.S. Literary festival is not exhibition).

Not articles focused on your own activities, which is all you've written so far. Heavy Water (talk) 15:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

My review pertained to the single article. I welcome more articles written by you. A good litmus test for conflict of interest is to ask: 'Is this article promoting myself, my work, or personal interests, or is it objectively reporting on the findings of my work?' If it’s the former, it constitutes a conflict of interest and is not publishable under our policies and guidelines. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 16:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

The COI is probably too severe for this to be an allowable practice regardless of the actual neutrality of the articles, though as submitted they're usually promotional in tone. At least, that's what Paul and I were saying (which I had thought you were agreeing with based on your review comments). Heavy Water (talk) 17:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

My articles in English, Italian, Chinese and Portuguese not promoting myself, my work, or personal interests, because I don't hold events in countries where people speak the languages listed, and of course people from these countries won't come to my events.
Reasoning in this way, one can come to the conclusion that Wikipedia articles about objects of world tourist attention advertise these objects, which allows the countries where they are located to make a profit. But this is absurd.

It would be logical to assume that advertising oneself is possible in the Russian-language section (where from today I am an editor and can publish my materials independently), but my activity (meaning offline) is selfless: I do not receive profit and no one even compensates me for travel to another city. If this is advertising, then it is positive advertising. It calls on everyone to work (meaning offline) for free. — Виктор Пинчук (talk) 17:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

@Heavy Water The COI is probably too severe for this to be an allowable practice regardless of the actual neutrality of the articles... I'm not sure I follow your point here. COI is not compatible with a neutral article. That's a paraphrase of the opening paragraph of WN:COI. Self-promotion is a type of COI, and therefore its presence is incompatible with a neutral point of view. If that is what you and Paul (Bddpaux) were saying, then I do indeed agree with you. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Published) 17:43, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the point we were making in the earlier discussions. I really should've used a term like "connection", the idea being a connection, which should be disclosed, can pose a risk of conflicting interests or appearance thereof, but not necessarily (calls to mind Talk:Modern radio drama Paranoria, TX releases 100th episode#Reporter's notes). Heavy Water (talk) 18:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

There are people in Russia who can speak English, but this is irrelevant. What we object to is the tone of the articles, and the fact you have a conflict of interest, which applies regardless of whether or not the interest at stake is commercial and whether or not you think these articles would be effective advertising. Also, "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion". Heavy Water (talk) 18:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Review of revision 4798406 [Not ready]

Revision 4798406 of this article has been reviewed by Michael.C.Wright (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 15:03, 24 September 2024 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Verifiability: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. NPOV: Not ready: Conflict of interest, see below. Style: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Comments by reviewer: The author is reporting on an exhibition where they presented a book they wrote. As discussed on the author's talk page, this is not publishable due to a conflict of interest: "...you are THE PERSON GIVING THE PRESENTATION AT THE EVENT, then you WRITE AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE EVENT."[1] Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Revision 4798406 of this article has been reviewed by Michael.C.Wright (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 15:03, 24 September 2024 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Verifiability: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. NPOV: Not ready: Conflict of interest, see below. Style: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Comments by reviewer: The author is reporting on an exhibition where they presented a book they wrote. As discussed on the author's talk page, this is not publishable due to a conflict of interest: "...you are THE PERSON GIVING THE PRESENTATION AT THE EVENT, then you WRITE AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE EVENT."[2] Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

face blurred out

why? BigKrow (talk) 15:11, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

"Conflict of interest".Now it is unclear who the article is about: about a certain faceless author from Russia. — Виктор Пинчук (talk) 16:07, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

You can still make out who he is. BigKrow (talk) 16:23, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Review of revision 4799164 [Not ready]

Revision 4799164 of this article has been reviewed by Michael.C.Wright (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 16:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Verifiability: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. NPOV: Not ready: Still self-promotion, COI Style: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Comments by reviewer: This article is still self-promotion. The self-promotion is only made explicit by making clear the author of the article is also the author of the book and the presenter of the event. Making it explicit that it is all the same person does not remove the self-promotion. en.Wikinews has a clear and long-standing policy strongly discouraging publishing self-promoting articles and other forms of conflict of interest (COI): WN:COI It has been mentioned on the author's talk page that similar articles with apparent self-promotion, that report on events or exhibitions hosted by the author will not be published.[3], [4] Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Revision 4799164 of this article has been reviewed by Michael.C.Wright (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 16:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Verifiability: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. NPOV: Not ready: Still self-promotion, COI Style: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Comments by reviewer: This article is still self-promotion. The self-promotion is only made explicit by making clear the author of the article is also the author of the book and the presenter of the event. Making it explicit that it is all the same person does not remove the self-promotion. en.Wikinews has a clear and long-standing policy strongly discouraging publishing self-promoting articles and other forms of conflict of interest (COI): WN:COI It has been mentioned on the author's talk page that similar articles with apparent self-promotion, that report on events or exhibitions hosted by the author will not be published.[5], [6] Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

• At least this one is an easy decision. Viktor is a smart, creative guy. But we are losing something getting him to understand self promotion and Conflict of interest. This is an article written by Viktor. Viktor is writing an article about a gathering (featuring Viktor as the key speaker, no less) where he talks about a book he has written. That is self promotion. This is not going to work. Viktor needs to take on a different approach on these kinds of articles. I'm sorry.--Bddpaux (talk) 16:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

@Bddpaux: I probably should have signed up under a fake name and told everyone I wasn't me. But I won't do that.
Thanks for the hospitality. It was a lot of fun. Time to go home? — Виктор Пинчук (talk) 18:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)