Talk:Libyan government accuses three Dutch helicopter crew of transporting spies

Latest comment: 13 years ago by Pi zero in topic Review of revision 1190668 [Passed]

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I found no other easy way of describing that. It appears around 0:24 in the YouTube video. I stop short of calling it a medical helicopter. I do not know what a medical chopper in The Netherlands would consist of (RE the apparent machine gun if not for defense in possible hostile territory). But that is the only time I see it. there is no 'giant' cross' on the side of the chopper, and they do not show the bottom of the chopper to make a call. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 14:12, 4 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

The BBC article describes it as a Lynx helicopter (redirected to Westland Lynx). The Wikipedia article says that versions of this helicopter have been employed by the Dutch navy and employed for utility and SAR (search and rescue) roles. Hope this helps. Mattisse (talk) 17:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Who was accused of spying? edit

I'm still working my way into the sources, but so far it's looking doubtful whether the sources will verify the crew were accused of spying. Which might require changing the headline as well as the lede. They accused the Dutch government of spying, and they said the helicopter was bringing or leaving spies, but there seems to have been some concern over the legal fine point of whether the crew themselves were actually being held as spies. --Pi zero (talk) 20:58, 6 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

  • I'm increasingly unhappy with the headline: the RNW source indicates no word on spying charges, and this article acknowledges that at the end of its second paragraph.
  • This article doesn't mention that the two people who were to be picked up have been released; that would seem like a good thing to mention, since it goes to the peculiarity of the spying question (if the crew haven't been accused of spying, but have been accused of bringing or leaving spies, what does it mean that the people they were picking up were released?)
  • Is that Facebook page actually provided by Associated Press? Although the user is clearly claiming to be AP ("http://www.youtube.com/user/AssociatedPress"), the AP site links its Facebook identity as "http://www.facebook.com/APNews", with links from there to other pages none of which are the former.
  • It's looking unlikely I'll be able to do any more on this article today, which means if I get back to it at all it'll probably be at least twelve hours from now.

--Pi zero (talk) 22:52, 6 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

  • Haven't found sourcing that all three crew were necessarily pilots.

--Pi zero (talk) 13:28, 7 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

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