Talk:Israel Defense Forces rescue four hostages in Gaza

Neutrality

@Me Da Wikipedian: same issue here as Israel Defense Forces discover tunnel in child's bedroom in Rafah. Please add the extra sentence and source. [₂₄Cr][talk] 19:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Done...but I still don't see why this is necessary. Hamas fires rockets at Tel Aviv was published without it. Also, as previously stated, the main idea of the paragraph is "this came in the war following the October 7 attack and Israel declaring war" not "a bunch of gazans died"@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 19:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

That article should not have been published without balancing. If you are going to include this paragraph, you should realise it reads as if it is biased towards the Israeli side. Don't get me wrong - on a personal level I was horrified by October 7. However, the Israeli response has caused the deaths of more than ten times as many people. By leaving out that number, we would give the impression of supporting the Israeli side. We shouldn't be on anyone's side but should aim to report objectively. If you are unhappy about including the sentence about Palestinians, I'm equally unhappy about a whole paragraph listing only the suffering on the Israeli side. [₂₄Cr][talk] 19:41, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

"By leaving out that number, we would give the impression of supporting the Israeli side" - We have also excluded virtually infinite amounts of background that could be theoretically provided for this story.@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 19:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

NY Times paywalled??? BigKrow (talk) 21:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Costs money for subscription? BigKrow (talk) 21:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Appartently...or you just clear cookies and reload every so often but...@BigKrow Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Review of revision 4785704 [Not ready]

Revision 4785704 of this article has been reviewed by Cromium (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 21:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Not ready: NPOV: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: One paywall source (NY Times), which should be removed per WN:PAYWALL. The CNN mentions some casualties during the operation. Israel says about 100, the Palestinians say 236. This should be mentioned in our article. Several pieces of information could not be found in the sources. These have been marked in hidden comments. Made some minor changes. Mr Netanyahu is the Prime Minister of Israel. The President is Mr Herzog. I think these two have been mixed up somewhere, because one of the sources (AP) says one of the hostages (Andrey Kozlov) spoke to President Herzog in Hebrew and English. Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Revision 4785704 of this article has been reviewed by Cromium (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 21:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Not ready: NPOV: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: One paywall source (NY Times), which should be removed per WN:PAYWALL. The CNN mentions some casualties during the operation. Israel says about 100, the Palestinians say 236. This should be mentioned in our article. Several pieces of information could not be found in the sources. These have been marked in hidden comments. Made some minor changes. Mr Netanyahu is the Prime Minister of Israel. The President is Mr Herzog. I think these two have been mixed up somewhere, because one of the sources (AP) says one of the hostages (Andrey Kozlov) spoke to President Herzog in Hebrew and English. Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Everything you said was unverified was verified by NYT, found mirror to verify it. Punitive measures will be taken is as clear as it can get that there will be punishment. Added casualties and resumbitted. @Cromium: Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

@Me Da Wikipedian:, mirrors don't work im not sure.... BigKrow (talk) 21:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Why wouldn't they. It's solves the issue (people can't easily get access to verify the article). @Cromium:, thoughts? @BigKrow: Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

All these Israel articles are not being published, so.....

IDK. BigKrow (talk) 21:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

What do you mean?@BigKrow Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:48, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Meaning were not getting the right info. BigKrow (talk) 22:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

What do you mean@BigKrow Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 22:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

I give up, maybe another user can help you understand???? Srry... BigKrow (talk) 22:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Review of revision 4785900 [Passed]

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Revision 4785900 of this article has been reviewed by Cromium (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 23:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: All identified issues have been resolved. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

"Around 11 A.M. on Saturday"

Me Da Wikipedian: In the future, please follow WN:TIME by clarifying which time zone a specific time is in, and the simultaneous time in UTC. Was the IDF's announcement at 11 A.M. or the raid? I did a brief, not-at-all-comprehensive string search for "11" and the only mention I could find was The New York Times reporting Daniel Hagari said the raid took place at 11 a.m. (perhaps by local time). There's also the possibility you altered the time to accommodate some other time zone. Heavy Water (talk) 18:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I honestly don't know where that came from and this was a month ago so I don't really remember what I was thinking. @Heavy Water Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 04:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC)