Talk:High school basketball star dies after making game-winning shot in overtime

Latest comment: 13 years ago by Blood Red Sandman in topic Controversy on testing?

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This is not notable material at all. Nobody around the world would know the location of this highschool. Azcolvin429 (talk) 23:28, 7 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Why does that matter? The article is not about the school, it's about a teenager who died at the climax of a basketball game. That's newsworthy. --Ashershow1talk 00:39, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
It is not notable. It is, however, newsworthy - which is why it is on a news site and not an encyclopedia. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 00:41, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Some 150,000 deaths occur daily. I should get to work then. Azcolvin429 (talk) 01:44, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Most of those 150,000 are not newsworthy. This one, however, is. --Pi zero (talk) 02:58, 8 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Controversy on testing?

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I moved the following sentence to here, because I think the claim that this is controversial needs referencing before reinsertion:

  • Such [defibrillator] testing is controversial, not only because of the cost but because of possible false-positives that may lead to the need for additional testing.

Mikael Häggström (talk) 05:26, 12 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

It is also a copy-paste copyright violation from http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/more/wires/03/04/2080.ap.bkh.michigan.player.dies.7th.ld.0113/. Actually, I do think it is controversial in the United States, where health care costs are not paid for by the government. In that setting these tests would be paid for by the student's family, and due to their cost would limit sports involvement to wealthy families. - Amgine | t 05:34, 12 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Wrong URL? That's not in the URL linked. Or, is part of it simply not going to show for me as a non-Amerikan? For reference, it displays to me as a four-paragraph piece, the last para being single-sentence. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:33, 12 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Google only gives WN and mirrors of our article. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:40, 12 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Yep, wrong url. Here's the right one: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/basketball/2011-03-04-michigan-wes-holland-death_N.htm And here's the source sentence: "But he said the idea has been controversial because the testing is costly and can lead to false-positives that mean unnecessary additional testing."

Wording was not copyvio

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Sports Illustrated.com was not a source for the article, and the link provided here http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/more/wires/03/04/2080.ap.bkh.michigan.player.dies.7th.ld.0113/ does not have that wording. The source for the article was Michigan prep basketball player dies after game-winning shot from USA Today:

"Lahiri said he and other doctors want schools to make heart testing such as electrocardiograms, or EKGs, routine during physicals for school athletes. But he said the idea has been controversial because the testing is costly and can lead to false-positives that mean unnecessary additional testing."

There are only so many ways to word simple information, and my wording was not copyvio. Regards, Mattisse (talk) 18:14, 12 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

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