Talk:Australian media focuses on Olympic prospects against US for women's basketball

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Journalist notes

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I am having some major internet problems. I cannot upload all my notes in PDF format that is readable. I type them from relevant parts of my notes here. --LauraHale (talk) 11:10, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

 

This confirms the female print reporter was probably the Canberra Times. One of the cameras said Fox Sports. Another camera I saw said WIN Television, and there was a guy in a suit talking to the Basketball Australia media guy while the WIN Television Camera was near. --LauraHale (talk) 11:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Bidgee and Tim stayed at the AIS while I went to a meeting. They restarted their training at 3:00pm according to Bidgee and their schedule. I arrived back at 4:20 or so. I asked both Bidgee and Tim if there were any other press while I was there. No, they had not seen anyone. While I was there, I did not see any press myself outside of some one with a video camera who had a shirt on that identified him as being affiliated with the Opals. --LauraHale (talk) 11:20, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

To help support one of the key points regarding the issue of establishing a narrative: The media already has this narrative. It has been covered in several other news pieces prior to this training camp. When you watch television, you get subjected to Australian Olympic coverage is coming up. Count down to the Games. Do you know how many days until the games? When they run clips, they run them of their best sports where the medal chances are there and this includes women's basketball. --LauraHale (talk) 12:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

The press conference ogg files should verify parts of the notes outside media observations as you can listen to the responses. --LauraHale (talk) 11:35, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

From my perspective, the audio of the press conference makes it abundantly clear that the USA and Australia are not in the same pool for the pool round of the Olympic tourney while in contrast, the UK team is in their pool. This can be confirmed here if another source is needed. --LauraHale (talk) 13:01, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

It might be good to add that as a source. It could also be useful to link to wikipedia:2012 FIBA World Olympic Qualifying Tournament for Women so people can see what other countries will be facing Australia in Group B. John Vandenberg (talk) 13:41, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
Except the article says that, and the press conference says that. It isn't necessarily one of the most pertinent details in my opinion. The only matches the media cared about were GB and USA. In the press conference, Lauren Jackson said something about how the Czech Republic would be a challenge as they are quite good... but they aren't necessarily playing the Czechs. --LauraHale (talk) 20:05, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Press conference

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The following are files from the press conference at AIS that started at approximately 10:46am UTC+11 today. Carrie Graf, Lauren Jackson and Jenna O'Hea were in attendance.

Press conference 14-5-12 Lauren Jackson 1
Press conference 14-5-12 Lauren Jackson 2
Press conference 14-5-12 Lauren Jackson 3

These were recorded using my iPhone and memo only allows files so big. :( Erk. :( Bidgee may be able to get video from it uploaded later. --LauraHale (talk) 11:10, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

COI?

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As a general disclaimer, I was attending as a member of Wikimedia Australia and Wikinews accredited reporter. (Talking my way into press coverage comes on the strength of Wikipedia/WM-AU work more than Wikinews sadly.) Thus, references to Wikimedia Australia might be viewed as potentially COI in this context. On the other hand, it wouldn't be accurate to state no media was there when clearly WE WERE there. --LauraHale (talk) 12:23, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

To make this a bit more clear: Two photographers from Wikimedia Australia were present for the afternoon session. One was present for the morning training session and press conference. I was also there, and it is my copy of the sound file and my notes from which the article was written. I did not ask any questions during the press conference. I did not speak to any players. The extent to which I really interacted with people was clarifying media times with the Basketball Australia representative. --LauraHale (talk) 12:37, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

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I think I have addressed the POV issues. Some of the press conference stuff may be more available in my handwritten notes. --LauraHale (talk) 20:07, 14 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Media

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Talked to media person today. The media did indeed get some coverage wrong, like one television report that said there were 22 players at camp. (There are actually 19. Oddly, it says THIS FACT DIRECTLY on the media hand out they gave to the journos, which I finally acquired today.) The players and organisation are aware the media narrative is they will play the USA in the gold medal round but from a team perspective, the media manager said there is no guarantee they will even make it that far as their competition is that strong. Plus, this narrative puts a lot of additional pressures on people to perform well. This is both good and bad but not ideal.

Randomly, Liz Cambage is awesome. She's a member of the team and called the media guy for us so we could make sure we absolutely had permission to take photographs in the strength and conditioning centre so we could take pictures like File:Australian Opals in the AIS Strength and Conditioning Gym during day three of the Opals camp.jpg though better ones are coming.

And while parts of the camp are open to the media all week, this session was accessible had they chosen to attend, but no one else did. I don't think you get a real appreciation for the amount of work they put into preparation with out that and the media does a good job neglecting some of that stuff outside the basketball court. --LauraHale (talk) 11:58, 15 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

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