Comments:United States and Poland sign missile-defence deal angering Russia

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This comes right after the situation in Georgia. The "missile shield" is useless and it doesn't work. This "missile shield" only has two functions: one political, the other economical. The political one is to serve as a huge US flag in Russia's backyard in order to piss them off. The economical is to give money to the US politically motivated military industrial complex. All of this (conflict in caucasus, tension, etc.) is an attempt by the soon leaving Bush Administration to create a new Cold War, and carry it towards the next US presidency... But, like all of their intentions since the year 2000, it will not succeed. They're just too incompetent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.109.228 (talk) 07:19, 16 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

The deal befit Poland from attack and it's Putin trying to start the second cold war. What you expect former members of the KGB.--66.229.12.186 12:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Well you would have a point... if that "anti-missile" system worked... But it doesn't. It is useless. It is only a huge US flag, nothing more. Those systems were deployed in many war theatres and they didn't work. They're useless junk and the US knows that. They just use them as expensive US flags.
Unproven Missile Defense systems... What makes you think the "anti-missile" system doesn't work? They hit a moving satellite. QUINTIX (talk) 13:39, 16 August 2008 (UTC) Just say "apples to oranges"Reply
P.S., Russia would have no reason to be angry if they didn't work. Also, the only places I seen that phrase ("Military Industrial Complex") from Eisenhower get regurgitated is from conspiracy nut sites. QUINTIX (talk) 13:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
The "anti-missile" systems do not work. Period. They have been used before in the first Gulf War, in Afghanistan and in the Second Gulf War. On average, these systems took out 2-3 missiles out of 10.

Incorrect. This is a matter of confusion among missile systems. i.e.: Raytheon’s antiquated Patriot used in the 1st Gulf War and to some extent in the 2nd (still deployed) with Lockheed Martin’s modern PAC-3; with video of upgraded Raytheon’s Standard Arm missile as a link above. There are a number of such systems today (including Lockheed Martin’s THAAD). PAC-3, to be installed in Poland, has never missed a target in test or in the field. —64.198.194.82 22:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Regarding your PS, I agree with you. The russians, if they do what they promise, which is to "respond" to this, they're buying into Bush Administration's "New Cold War". Who cares? The Bush Administration is on the road now, and they are very unpopular, not only in their country, but outside aswell. Regarding this matter, yes, I agree with you. The russians would do better not to "respond".
The Gulf War ? Afghanistan ? Any long range ballistic missiles being used there ? You're confusing different systems. Lysy (talk) 17:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Whatever I say it will never be enough. Not even if reality speaks for itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.109.228 (talk) 17:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Lolita C. Baldor and Vanessa Gera were incorrect when they said Poland is an ex-communist country. Poland never was a communist country. It was COMMUNIST DOMINATED. What the article infers is that the late Pope John Paul II was a communist because he was from Poland when it was communist dominated.

A correction to the story is in order.

If an attack on Poland happens President George W Bush is too weak to do anything about it. His WMD errors have caused the US to be too weak in the eyes of the Communist world to react or to have any strength to challenge action which are threatened by Russia.

Frank Kochniarczyk 19716 Midas Ct Gaithersburg, MD 20879 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.26.141.237 (talk) 15:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

There will be no attacks on Poland or in any other country. There will be no "New Cold War". This was just another attempt by a frustrated, desperate administration, to wreak havoc before they leave power in the US. The information that "Russia has threatned to attack Poland with nukes" is a lie. What Angela Merkel said on the TV was "mistranslated" and put out of context. There will be no war, no cold war and no nuke bombardments. There will be peace and reconciliation. This first decade has seen too much bloodshed already.

PAC3 Is Not Patriot edit

Quoting statistics of hit-to-miss ratios in the 1st Gulf War as “evidence” for such a system’s incapable nature are erroneous as that was the mostly ineffectual Patriot. PAC-3, the system installed in Poland, was not yet out of test and far from deployment. While the names are loosely used in popular media, Lockheed Martin's (LM) PAC-3 is not Raytheon’s Patriot. Raytheon built Patriot missiles decades ago with 1960s technology as an anti-aircraft device (slow targets). Lockheed Martin's PAC-3 (originated by LTV Aerospace, acquired by LM) was built with the latest technology of its time as an anti-missile-missile device (fast targets) under direction of Ronald Reagan's SDI program - its #1 priority program in the mid-80s. While both systems have been continually upgraded over time, Patriot is incapable of intercepts at speeds and agility implemented by PAC-3. While PAC-3 is commonly termed a “theater defense” weapon (i.e. best suited for slower, large missiles (Scuds, etc.)) it was designed and tested against strategic weapons (ICBMs) and has never missed in test nor as a deployed system in the field. —64.198.194.82 21:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)Reply