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With so much at stake & everything going on in the world...

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With so much at stake & everything going on in the world-the so-called "man of God"testing the US Constitution while inciting the deaths of innocents & whipping fanatical Islam into a fervor with his idiotic actions is unforgivable & serves to drag down the image of our noble country along with the chances of stabilizing the region or relations there being greatly diminished.This one clown singlehandedly has shown perhaps the largest logical reason to date for amending the Constitution in order to protect life,property and freedom. He should be hung publicly for causing the deaths directly caused by his ignorant,irresponsible actions instead of worrying about the Constitution or the other side's "feelings" about his Qur'an burning hobby.Nothing this publicity seeking imbecile could possibly do would ever justify the murderous,indiscriminate rampage focused against all Americans,Westerners or Christians by what appears to be the largest assemblies of illiterate,illogical radical morons I've ever seen to date outside of certain political events here in the US. Sheer stupidity by all parties involved & totally uncalled for... (talk)02:20, 24 April 2011

Muslims are always very eager to respond to Western characterizations of them as mindless violent animals... by burning, destroying, and killing. Mission accomplished! (talk)03:09, 24 April 2011

untrue ignorant comment; however it's true that one can be sure that some WILL get murderous and this dickhead pastor knows it. Does he not feel he has enough blood on his hands?

Mcchino64 (talk)08:37, 24 April 2011

It's not the pastor's fault that muslims are violent animals. Not only he proved his point but the American government punished him for doing it.

Islam has already ruined half of Europe, it seems they want to ruin the Americas now also. First that attack on the Brazilian school, now in the US the government is arresting people who criticize islam. We must do something about it, and I'm afraid pretending that muslims aren't violent and that you're a friend of them won't stop them from hating you for not being a muslim.

Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV (talk)17:16, 24 April 2011

What just like dickhead evangelical pastors and rednecks will hate me for being gay or black. Wake up mate, its no secret that a significant proportion of muslims are violent - its not a conclusion that you've come to and its just that people like me just arent listening. But I also know from experience that not every single muslim is a flag burning, shoe throwing, machete yielding murderer.

Ignorance breeds fear and hatred can you not see that by your ignorance you are no better than violent Muslims. You're both pig-headed and will not agree, which I guess I'll have to live with since there are so many like you, but keep it the fuck to yourself don't try to shove ur ill informed off the cuff anus gas in my face coz u don't have the wits about you.

Mcchino64 (talk)19:19, 25 April 2011

Since some of these people demand a capitol offense for blasphemy against Islam, am I also going to be held against merely saying something that they will take murderous offense to? How much more of this nonsense are we going to put up with? If I decide to burn a book and they decide to kill over it, I won't lose one second of sleep for their crimes. I have no respect for their religion any more. There was a time when I thought nothing of Islam. Now it's a different story. It WILL get to a point when they will be so pissed at Americans, even Muslim Americans, for the tiniest piece of nonsense that they will kill more people. Heck, after this one book burning, they called for Obama's assassination, Obama who spoke out against the burning! People in Pakistan were chanting, "Death to America! Death to Israel!" And all that for what this one man did.

edit: not intended as a reply to any specific comment here.

Dpattiris (talk)01:14, 26 April 2011

I'm no better than ignorant muslims? Well I assure you that I never blew myself up with other people, I never stoned a woman for being raped, I never walked around calling for the killing of jews because they are jews, I never flew a plane into a building filled with people, I never slaughtered Christians because a priest burned a book.

Did you know also that not every nazi killed jews. Hey but the media only shows the concentration camps and ditches filled with corpses right? Yet we had to stop nazism, because even though not every nazi killed jews they were part of a community where killing jews was the norm. Same thing with islam; we have to stop it because even though, as you say, "not every single muslim is a flag burning, shoe throwing, machete yielding murderer" they are part of a religion where flag burning, shoe throwing, and murder are encouraged. Encouraged against us, and ignoring the problem wont make it go away.

Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV (talk)13:59, 26 April 2011

Well... I'm not a dickhead redneck, but after studying Islam, watching how Muslims act over someone burning a Qur'an and just studying history I've realized that Islam is not truly a religion. It is more of a system of government. How many Christian Republics are there in the world right now? Okay, now look up how many Islamic Republics there are in the world. If you really think about it, Muhammad's Qur'an is fickle. At least with the Bible it had multiple authors, over an extended period of time, so there was no central author, however with the Qur'an it's a completely different story (No pun intended). One man wrote it, and he said that this book was God's word, word-for-word. This is just strange to me, it seems like he just wanted people to think he spoke with God so that he could have a taste of power. Unfortunately people believed him, the lie spread, and is now a "real" religion. If I'm not mistaken to Qur'an says that God placed mountains on the Earth to hold it in place, but I find two things wrong with this. 1) It supports a flat earth, if the earth needs to be held in place it would have to be laid out on something (I like to imagine something like a world map being laid on a table with knives holding it in place, knives taking the place of mountains), and it's fairly obvious that the world isn't flat 2) If you look at mountains and how they were formed, they weren't placed here, they were pushed up out of the ground. So, I'm done now. I'm sure I'll be called an ignorant asscrack for this, but all that says to me is that people are uneducated themselves and that they're Islamic Sympathizers (most likely). Anywho, try to tear me apart as you will now, prove me wrong, call me horrible names, call me ignorant, do what you must, I just hate that you'll never understand and grasp the fact that you're wrong. (talk)16:33, 26 April 2011

It's true! And don't forget, they just love to restrict the freedom of others in the process and try to force their own religious laws on people. (talk) 12:15, 27 April 2011 (UTC) (talk)12:15, 27 April 2011

Eh, there is enough of that among the other religions. Some atheists, for example, are being told by God-fearing Christians to "get off our country!" Though, at least they aren't beheading the offenders like one certain group of people.

Okay, quiz time everyone! Which religion will you find people calling for the death penalty because:

1) someone said something bad about their religion?

2) someone burned their holy book?

While we wait for the next guy or gal to step up and point out the history of Christianity and all the atrocities committed in its name hundreds of years ago, I'll get back to enjoying my breakfast.

Dpattiris (talk)13:03, 27 April 2011

Depending on your perspective, there are still atrocities committed in the name of Christianity today. (I'm atheist, if you must know, not that this should change things, I'm merely making a point).

In your style:

While I wait for someone to flame me for being a "gay, commie, hippy dissident", I'll return to my...uh, glass of water.

BTech United (talk)03:47, 29 April 2011

This article has to do with the constitutional right to free speech. Judgments about the merits of religion or particular religions are not the issue. Free speech is a constitutional right on any issue, except the example of yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater.

Mattisse (talk)12:56, 29 April 2011

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I am confused, as to what the bond is for. Is it to keep him out of jail? Or to pay for police protection?

Phearson (talk)15:54, 27 April 2011

It was a bond to pay for police protection. As the U.S. Supreme Court has decided in the past, it is unconstitutional to require a bond for police protection. Perhaps the article was not clear enough. It was a free speech case, and only happened to concern a pastor who wanted to speak out against a particular religion. In the US, so-called "prior restraint", that is preventing someone from speaking out before they actually have, is unconstitutional. Making them pay a bond for police protection in order to speak out is therefore unconstitutional also. Mattisse (talk) 21:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Mattisse (talk)21:39, 27 April 2011