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Independents' Day CincinnatiEdit
The first forum/debate meeting of independent candidates for president of the United States of America came to a conclusion Sunday evening at the University of Cincinnati. Of the 24 that were invited, ten appeared to express their views and platforms, and discuss issues that are important to all Americans, but are not being covered in national party events. Organizers of the event informed and invited numerous local, state, and national media offices, but only Wikipedia and the campus newspaper showed up on Sunday when the public was invited. As a participant, to me that was very disappointing. It furthers my belief that the Democratic and Republican Parties intend to keep our government under their control for as long as possible.
All of the participating candidates, however, said that during their campaign travels throughout the country the Americans they talked to are yearning for another choice. Having swallowed the two major parties' dogma for decades, they want something entirely different, and are willing to listen to independents. I concur. Give us ten minutes and we'll convince you, too, that what Albert Einstein said about "insanity" is true, "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Don't expect things to change by voting for another Republican or Democrat.
So the power brokers of our country are saying, "Americans, you only need two candidates to choose from. Any more would just confuse you. Now, here they are - a Republican and a Democrat. Take your pick." It doesn't matter which one, just pick one and we'll go on with our business as usual.
Forty percent of Americans don't vote. I want your votes! Forty percent of Americans are registered as independents. It's time you voted independent! And forty percent of Americans don't like any of the candidates the two parties have promoted. Tell our two-party system we've had enough and vote for an independent!
My name is Donald K. Allen and I'm an independent, unaffiliated candidate for president of the United States of America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 16:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
INDEPENDENTS’ DAY DEBATE – CINCINNATI April 5 and 6, 2008
This weekend, 10 Independent Presidential Candidates met in Cincinnati, Ohio for the first in a series of debates. While there was no clear winner, one thing was very apparent; the party candidates now have some serious competition and the American people finally have a real choice in the election this fall.
The event was organized by Independent Presidential Candidates Richard H. Clark, Joe Oliva, and Bill Ingram, to give Americans frustrated with the two party system, an opportunity to evaluate candidates that are not restrained by or trying to sell a platform of a political party.
November 4, 2008 has been declared “INDEPENDENTS’ DAY” as a day to declare an end to the broken two party system of government and an end to the Bush/Clinton family rule. Cincinnati was the first debate. The Independents will meet again in May for the State of the World in Wilkes-Barre, PA and June 7th and 8th at Mount Rushmore for a weekend of debates, speeches, and Meet & Greets with the public. This will set the stage for one million Independents to come to Washington, DC on the 4th of July and Declare their Independence from the Democrats and Republicans that have ruled this country for over 150 years.
Independents look back to the founding of America, when States and districts selected someone to represent their values in Washington, DC. Today the two major parties come into the States and districts to select someone to go to Washington to represent them. Many feel this has broken our once great system of government.
Independent Presidential Candidates Donald K. Allen, John Bootie, Chris Borcik, Richard Fleharty, Rob Jorgensen, Daniel Kingery, and Christopher Popham Smith along with the organizers presented their positions and debated everything from the War to the Economy and Social Security to Health Care, the Environment and Immigration. They also talked about topics that the party candidates avoid; gays in the military, medical marijuana, and gun control.
The Independents didn’t talk about “change”; instead, they presented real solutions to fix this country’s real problems. Some may say, “We now have a real horse race.” —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 04:42, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Independent Debate at Zimmer Hall The University of OhioEdit
www.rcjorgensen.com www.rcjorgensen2008.com www.google:rcjorgensen www.votesmart.org I traveled from the Outer Banks of North Carolina to Cincinnati and debated with the other seven Independent Candidates. It was great to get things off my chest and vent. Cheaper than Phsycotheraphy too! But seriously, the only candidates that the Media covers is Obama a Black Lawyer from Harvard, Clinton a woman from Yale, Bush's alma mater. And John Mc Cain, Bush's choice to succeed him. It is kind of sad for our Democracy that these are the 3 we have to choose from. Their is another choice and that's me. RC Jorgensen "Rob" an engineer graduate from Long Beach State College. It's a very long shot given Barrack and Hillary have spent hundreds of millions of dollars past the FEC spending limits on campaigns, my campaign is self financed. I am focusing on the issues not how much money I can spend. I feel we as a Country should delete the give two dollars to the Presidential Campaign on our tax Returns and put a check here to give Five dollars to the Disable American Veterans. They too have Mental Health Issue, but none a severe as the Bush Cheney Adminstration. Well that about wraps it up for tonight. In closing, I would like to Qoute Abe Linclon: A government of the people, for the People and by the People! Kinda make the decider seem like Dictator. Or as we say in the South Dick Tater. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 00:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Media suprressed by the Bush Administration No Freedom of SpeechEdit
After driving from the Outer Banks of North Carolina to Cincinatti to this event, I was appalled to discover no media covered this event! How tragic for our Democracy, appearently they have all been paid off by Bush. Threats or Bribes seems to be effective in resulting in no media coverage for this event. I have been encouraged lately by the Director of the FBI stating that if Freedom of Speech and \or the media is controlled the Terrorist have won. I pray that the Independents will atleast be heard.www.rcjorgensen2008.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 00:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Right you are, it had nothing to do with the fact than none of these people stood a chance of winning even if CNN (and whomever you wish had been there). Bush, alone, suppressed all media coverage of this. Yep, that makes so much sense. That's because he wants to run unopposed. Wait, what? He's not running? --SVTCobra 01:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)