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Dragonfrie, comments are not trolling and should not have been reverted --- read the banner --65.51.209.124 (talk) 16:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't consider your comments trolling yet, although I could certainly see them going that way. In any case, you may well accuse us of "navel gazing", but we're well within our remit to write articles about the Foundation and related activities. Do you think the New York Times never writes about itself? Fox News doesn't report on Rupert Murdoch in its typically fair and balanced manner? If Wikimedia does something newsworthy (and both of the articles you've declared navel gazing have been covered in other media), then we'll report on it. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 23:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

So people can scream "death to Israel" and other racist rants and all kinds of crazy shit, and that's fine. But if you suggest that Wikinews is a little pre-occupied with Wikimedia, then you're a Troll and your comments first get deleted by one administrator and then another administrator comes and threatens you. Wow! Someone's a bit sensitive!

And Mr. Mann, Fox News doesn't ever have days were 30% of its coverage is about Rupert Murdoch, News Corp. and Twentieth Century Fox. Nor does CNN devote that much time to Warner Bros. and Ted Turner.--65.51.209.124 (talk) 13:26, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think those comments constituted trolling, i've seen much worse rants/garbage being put up on comments pages that were never removed. I feel we should only be removing comments that are blatantly offensive and/or random nonsense; in this case, the user was expressing his opinion, and although it could have been perceived as slightly inflammatory, it certainly wasn't "trolling" enough to merit removal. Tempodivalse [talk] 13:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)