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A proposal for WikiJournals to become a new sister project

Over the last few years, the WikiJournal User Group has been building and testing a set of peer reviewed academic journals on a mediawiki platform. The main types of articles are:

  • Existing Wikipedia articles submitted for external review and feedback (example)
  • From-scratch articles that, after review, are imported to Wikipedia (example)
  • Original research articles that are not imported to Wikipedia (example)

Proposal: WikiJournals as a new sister project

From a Wikipedian point of view, this is a complementary system to Featured article review, but bridging the gap with external experts, implementing established scholarly practices, and generating citable, doi-linked publications.

Please take a look and support/oppose/comment! Evolution and evolvability (talk) 04:25, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Google favors accuracy

Bearing in mind that 1.) we are still a completely marginal player in the news world and 2.) you shouldn't use Google products, this is an encouraging trend in Web search that reliability in reporting is rewarded: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/06/08/google-rewards-reputable-reporting-more-than-left-wing-politicsJustin (koavf)TCM 01:39, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

17:07, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

20:38, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata

After severa^l years of a kind of Wikinews hiatus I recently began to write Wikinews articles in the German WP, what is good. However I wasn't able to figure out if Wikinewsians create a Wikidata entry

  • only if needed for the prupose of interwiki
  • only for categories
  • whatsoever.

Which is actually best practice here in this wiki? --Matthiasb (talk) 23:11, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Matthiasb: I, for one, have never favored having Wikidata items for articles; it seems to me that no two articles, whether in the same language or different languages, are ever about exactly the same story, unless maybe one of them is a straight translation of the other. When we voted here on being hooked up to Wikidata —not that we actually had any choice, when the Foundation gets fixated on something— as I recall they tried to placate me with a claim that of course they were only doing Wikinews categories; but I don't recall anyone asking us later whether it was okay to have wikidata items for articles too, they just did it. There's seems to be this expectation floating around that centralization is always a good thing, which I find baffling since, between too much centralization and too little, too much seems to me at least as major a source of misery in the world as too little. Here on en.wn, btw, we do help maintain wikidata items for topic categories, but we don't remove the local interwiki markup once pages are linked at wikidata. --Pi zero (talk) 23:38, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

17:30, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Article on Mitch Murray, Songwriter

I’m hoping someone can help me. My Wikipedia page, edited - I believe- by Derek Bullamore - has a very basic piece of incorrect information due to a mistaken entry in the London Gazette, nearly a month ago, when I was awarded a CBE in the Queen’s Birthday Honours.

I changed my legal name by Deed Poll in 1968 from Lionel Michael Stitcher to Mitch Murray, and my CBE honour is actually in the name of Mitch Murray, not my birth name. I have the original Change Of Name Deed and this was supplied to the Cabinet Office at the time I accepted the award. They tell me they supplied the correct information to the Gazette, but somehow the wrong information was printed.

I am quite happy to supply a copy of the Deed to whoever wishes to see it I will also arrange for the London Gazette to confirm the correct name, Mitch Murray CBE, which is now on file officially.

I understand why whoever edited my page did so, using the entry in the London Gazette, but the name Lionel Michael Stitcher has not been my legal name for 51 years, and I am happy to prove this and verify it with documentation and backup from the Gazette or the Cabinet Office.

I am finding the incorrect entry a complication to my professional ‘brand’ - much worse than the wrong ‘Spouse’ entry (we were actually Divorced in 1980).

Could someone please help me with this problem?

Many thanks

Mitch Murray CBE (honest)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 78.151.149.35 (talkcontribs) 19:49, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The appropriate first place to raise this concern is the talk page of the article in question. --Pi zero (talk) 19:56, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]