Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2012/July

Misspelling in the title of Putin signs law inceasing fines for illegal protestors

Thanks. Apokrif (already raised but AFAIK no answer has been given]]) (talk) 17:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Done --Pi zero (talk) 18:23, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

EtherEditor - Live collaborative editing + chat

Hello!

I've been told the Wikinews might be particularly interested in a new extension I'm making called EtherEditor! Therefore, here's some more information about it:

The extension allows real-time collaboration on any wiki page. It's a user preference currently, but it will soon be a per-page choice. You can also use the chat feature to discuss the changes with anyone else editing the page!

There is a test instance of MediaWiki with this extension installed. You should follow the instructions page to get the editor working, and if you are lucky enough to find a bug or missing feature, please feel free to edit the feedback page with your suggestions!

There's also the etherpad instance itself, which is another great way to collaborate with others. It also has the wikitext formatting buttons, so you can edit wiki pages there as well.

The original announcment from wikitech-l may be able to explain some things better.

And of course, the source code is freely available!

Thanks for your help in testing this new extension, I'm very excited to have it deployed on production wikis soon! --MarkTraceur (talk) 23:10, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Wait. We can get an actual, in-built etherpad? I like the sound of this. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 12:01, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll do one better: You can get an in-built etherpad with forking, kicking, deleting, and some really cool wikitext formatting buttons :) there are a lot of new features on the test instance since I last posted here, you should check them out! Of course now, I've set up a Bugzilla form for reporting bugs and missing features, so you can use that instead of the Feedback page. --MarkTraceur (talk) 19:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia discussion of interest to Wikinews

See Wikipedia discussion here about the usage of Wikinews as a source for Wikipedia.--William S. Saturn (talk) 05:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

The link doesn't work. Apokrif (talk) 17:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

It's already been archived. Here's a permanent link to the archives.--William S. Saturn (talk) 18:48, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

• And, an eqully unpopular attempt to bring the subject up again.

With so much comment from a position of ignorance, I've asked for an RfC on the matter. If you know where that should go on Wikipedia, please feel free to transfer it. I've already had to revert tagging of WP:Wikinews as part of the 'anti-Wikinews' campaigning.

This isn't intended as canvassing, but I'm sure someone else might be able to better put across the arguments for Wikinews being considered reliable. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 15:41, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Licensing

Did Wikinews change license or what? I just saw this when I accessed Wikinews from my Android device. --Diego Grez (talk) 05:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

• <big sigh>

"Dear mobile developers, never assume. It makes a (jack)ass out of you."

File it on bugzilla. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 11:02, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

• Bugged them on your behalf. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 11:10, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

• I'll make sure that staff are aware. :) --Mdennis (WMF) (talk) 20:47, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

The devs did just fine; created a new message that can be set up. But we never knew about it. A little annoying, but less "dangerous" than "Page X on your watchlist has changed, review the changes at http://'" is.

The ever-so-mildly amusing thing about the WMF finally splurging on proper wildcard SSL for all projects is, about three years ago I challenged the Library of Congress on going 100% SSL because what you read with them should be nobody's business.

If the EFF can be persuaded, and the WMF doesn't object, then the switch should be used for a pro-privacy push. And, if you're going to get devs to do anything, please stop emailing "page http:// ... has changed" links and put https:// in those. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 22:48, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh mobile devs, wtf are you doing (Seriously though, making an arbitrary new message like that for legal related things without telling anyone is not ok, and on top of that a raw html message...). Hey, the "page http:// -> page https://" is just a config change away (wgCanonicalServer. It's currently set to http, I don't know why, I think the majority of devs [politically] would want https by default). (I think devs are just scared that if wikipedia used https by default en wikipedia might overload the servers or something). Bawolff ☺☻ 13:05, 31 July 2012 (UTC)