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Sorry, I'm not going to be able to review tonight, but I can tomorrow. Sorry, but I didn't realize how busy I was. —Mikemoral♪♫ 03:24, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Audio for your interview?

Benny the Mascot told me you have audio of your interview for [Wikinews interviews Chiaki Hayashi, Asian Projects Coordinator at Creative Commons] - if you wouldn't mind, I'd love to be able to use it on the Audio Wikinews. Turtlestack (talk) 23:09, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

So sorry for late responce. You can download audio copy of interview here. --Saki (talk) 16:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

So basically we've found out that you've been evading a two-year-old block; I've asked to have it lifted, though, and that you be pardoned by the community. See here for more info. Benny the mascot (talk) 04:32, 24 June 2010 (UTC)



 
You have been blocked from Wikinews for sockpuppet, prior disruptive vandal. If you believe this block is unjustified or wish to contest it, you may add {{unblock|your reason}} to this page, go to Wikinews IRC to request to be unblocked, or send a message to wikinews-l   wikimedia org.

Said audio was not forthcoming. This, given your prior history on this project, should have been a prerequisite for any single word of original reporting on your part. You have, repeatedly, disrupted this project under numerous sockpuppets. When challenged on claims in relation to the location you were currently accessing the Internet from; neither visible addresses in IRC, nor those revealed whilst I retained Checkuser privilege matched with your purported location. Based on your long history of prior disruption under multiple socks, attempt to use the project as a blog host, copyright violation – repeatedly, and implications of the areas of research revealed by minor edits on other projects, you are receiving a month-long block. The interview you contributed, that was never adequately, nor competently, reviewed against credible evidence will be labelled appropriately. Repeat private messages to any regular contributor in IRC will result in you being immediately kicked and banned from the channel by the nearest operator.

Requests for this block to be reviewed should be declined, and the template restored, unless exceptional circumstances indicate otherwise. This userpage should not be deleted, moved, usurped, or hidden.

Have a nice daymonth. --Brian McNeil / talk 05:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I've unblocked you, and you will probably remain unblocked unless the community decides otherwise. Benny the mascot (talk) 05:47, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I pardon Wikinews community. Please give me a chance. --Saki (talk) 11:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
At the risk of provoking a most irate response from Brian, I've unblocked this user once again. As indicated in the unblock summary, the blocking reasons and currently available evidence to back it up are unsatisfactory. The audio for the interview was provided, and Saki appears to have reformed, having written several published articles. There's not been any vandalism from him since mid-2008. Tempodivalse [talk] 20:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
  • No, no irate response. You have just given a known vandal a green light. Look at the considerable number of newly created accounts since you did so, at the locations they claim to be from. Are you multilingual enough to speak any Japanese? Ask "Mr" w:User:Saki here how he manages over there. And, while you're at it, why he would turn up in IRC on a Pakistan Telecom IP address. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:49, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
  • The point here is that we have no definite proof of wrongdoing. The last vandalism was two years ago; since then, the user has written at least three articles that were published, and an audio transcript has been provided as well. So what more could we want? I see zero vandalism coming from him. That the userbox on en.wp says he lives in Tokyo may very well be out of date, it's not been edited for two months. I'm just saying that, based on current evidence (which, although may appear somewhat suspicious, is entirely circumstantial), there is not enough to support a lengthy block. We need facts, solid facts. The latest Matthew Edwards affair should have told us that. Tempodivalse [talk] 21:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


You have been blocked from Wikinews for block evasion/sockpuppetry, as your account has been identified as being related to Saqib. Please request unblock of that account; it seems likely that the community will accept you back provided your interview proves to be factual.. If you believe this block is unjustified or wish to contest it, you may add {{unblock|your reason}} to this page, go to Wikinews IRC to request to be unblocked, or send a message to wikinews-l   wikimedia org.

Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Bleaurgh, that template looks nasty. Saqib: I would defer to a second admin, but my gut feeling is that if you request unblock at your main account it will be granted. However, that is the right way forward; to move on from the past we must first acknowledge the past. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
He just resigned. :( Benny the mascot (talk) 17:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Interview

Brian: I took interview of Chiaki Hayashi on June 2, 2010 in Tokyo, Japan somedays before leaving for Pakistan and then uploaded audio file while in Pakistan so you can actually confirm with her.--Saki (talk) 20:01, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

User:Chiaki0808 and User:Dubaiguy1 are not mine socks. --Saki (talk) 20:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

  • I received an email from Chiaki this morning. Apparently you told her the audio was lost. I also, last night, downloaded the WMA audio from your website. Despite having several nonfree codec packs on my Linux install this will not play. Can you re-upload in a libre audio format such as FLAC, WAV, or OGG? Also, please explain the inconsistency here. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talkmain talk 14:39, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I told her that the audio was lost and yes, it was but I forget that I had a copy in my recycle bin (thanks God). If I were knew how to convert audio files, I had did it before. By the way, let it play for a while ad you should able to hear voice after 1:30 seconds perhaps. Please try again and do let me know. --Saki (talk) 14:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Unblocked

Good day, Saki! I'm sure you would be please to learn that I have unblocked you, given the lack of additional, meaningful evidence brought against you on WN:AAA. Consensus on that page seems to suggest that the community still trusts you to edit constructively. :)

Now it's time for the formalities: You must contribute through only one account of your choice. If you wish to contribute through an account other than this one (Saki), then this account will be reblocked and the other one unblocked. If you are found to be using a different account without our approval, then you may be blocked indefinitely.

Easy rules to follow, right? Happy editing! :D Benny the mascot (talk) 01:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I'd also point out that you staying unblocked will also depend on making sure the interview you conducted is completely legitimate, which many users are seriously concerned about. If it's found any part of that was in violation of policies, particularly if it was intentional, I can name numerous admins who would be only to happy to block you again, and I think you'd have a hard time convincing anyone to unblock you. That said, I do support your unblocking, on, as Benny said, the condition that no socking takes place in the future and your contributions don't become disruptive. Regards, C628 (talk) 02:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
  • I will echo the sentiments expressed by C628. I am in touch with Creative Commons about the interview, they were aware of it being arranged, but knew nothing of the domain upon which you have posted audio. I am awaiting further clarification from them on how this was arranged and put to their contacts. You must remember that you are not an employee or representative of Wikinews, or the Wikimedia Foundation. Nor, as it seemed through the creation of the domain hosting the audio, are you a representative of Creative Commons. I, and others I have discussed this with are a little concerned there was no notification of anyone on Wikinews that this was in the planning. Can I ask, how, exactly, did you represent yourself to Creative Commons? -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talkmain talk 14:56, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Who is saying you that I represented myself as emplyoy or representative of WM or WN while taking interview of Chiaki Hayashi?? Go and make sure with the interviewee first before shouting at me. As for the domain name, I didn't registered it to represent WM nor CC and I dont think freeculturemovement.org is a registered trademark of eigther organizations. Is it?? By the way, before going to register it, I asked people at freeculture.org if they have any issue if I register such domains but they had no issue but I still don't whats your problem with my domain. --Saki (talk) 16:16, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
  • I did not shout at you. I am being put in touch with the interview subject. So far nobody from freeculture.org has commented on the domain. You do not need to respond on my talk page. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talkmain talk 19:38, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Saki, if you have truely reformed then you must understand that people will need to perform very tight checks on you, because of your past. Assuming you've done nothing wrong then just co-operate. The smoother these checks go the quicker they will be reduced and the faster you can regain the community's trust. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Sure. --Saki (talk) 14:30, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Interview listed for deletion

Please see WN:DR. Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 15:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Saki. At the moment, I really don't know exactly what's going to happen to the article. The community seems to be split. Benny the mascot (talk) 13:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Your interview has been deleted. Under no circumstances whatsoever should you contemplate engaging in any form of Original Reporting until such time as you have made an effort to gain community trust and prove you can act responsibly, avoid copyright infringement, sockpuppetting, and so. I am of the opinion your prior blocks, and a permanent block of this account would be fully justified. This is not the general will of the community, but your disruption of the project is completely and utterly unacceptable. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Saki. I've restored your article on your userspace per your request. Benny the mascot (talk) 15:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Redeeming yourself

Hi Saki. It seems that you're not exactly favored by a few contributors at the moment. Perhaps you need to take a few steps to regain your trust with them. I suggest that you write a few synthesis articles and interact with your fellow editors. What do you think? If you need help with anything, just post a message on my talk page. :) Benny the mascot (talk) 18:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I'll. Thank you! --Saki (talk) 18:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Just go ahead and file a request on WN:CHU Benny the mascot (talk) 13:21, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Congrats

Hey! Congrats on getting Deadly flooding in Pakistan kills hundreds published! I'm gladd to see that you've decided to help out despite everything that happened with your interview. If you need anything, just let me know. ;) Benny the mascot (talk) 18:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your attentions and appreciations. --Saki (talk) 19:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Unmitigated Audacity

I hear you had the chutzpa, brass neck, or sheer affrontery, to apply for accreditation; and, were shot down faster than a Me109 against a squadron of Spitfires.

You, frankly, will never be issued a Wikinewsie email address until you start dealing honestly with the Wikinews community. And, master the English language and copyright law.

I am uninterested in how someone has access to thousands of IP addresses in the area of Pakistan where Osama Bin Laden is puportedly holed up. I am, however, concerned that this project retain its integrity.


You've lied to this community. You've vowed to destroy this project. And, you've created more sockpuppets than there have been Elvis sightings.

You should still be permanently banned.

Leave accreditation well alone; it has to be earned. Don't think because I'm at a reduced activity level I will not find out your machinations. I take my responsibilities as a 'crat very seriously. The integrity of this project's reportage is crucial. You, with every copyvio, or near copyvio, put that at risk.

If you wish to be accredited you must completely and utterly reform. I do not believe you have done so. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:44, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Article approved

Well Nine dead after small plane crashes in New Zealand finally approved before the 3-day deadline; I added several local newspaper sources Hugo99 (talk) 13:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

'Retirement'

Weren't you retired from this project? If I were you, I would never come back to receive more criticisms... you should know better. --Diego Grez return fire 18:35, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, as of now, I'm here with my promise to reform myself. Anyway, could you please help me expanding this article Woman admits she's mom of 'Gulf Air baby', if you've time. --Saki (talk) 18:44, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I can't. --Diego Grez return fire 18:51, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
  • So finally I have decided to leave this project. By the way, why you retired from EN WP? :O Please do not mind, it was not my personal opinion about ITN nomination. I would still support it but there is really no international responce to this event. --Saki (talk) 19:33, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
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