This is new?

Not to downplay the importance of this, just a question...what was said in this report that wasn't already known? Fephisto (talk) 13:12, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

WN:Freshness

It's analogue to the case with Snowden. We actually already knew, but now we know for sure. And for the people that have interest in hiding this truth, it becomes a lot harder to cover up the truth.

When a country does something really bad, the population may later have a hard time admitting it happened. For some it's cover-up, but for many it's just plain denial. With no clear line between the two; when you've got enough of a personal investment of belief in what was done, denial can edge over into cover-up so quietly you don't notice (at the time, anyway).

.....uhm...are we talking about the same things? I'm not saying, "This is something we all guessed about but didn't know for sure." This is something that there was already news and official reports about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_interrogation_techniques ...since at least 2007, right? Fephisto (talk) 15:03, 9 January 2015 (UTC)