Closed minded suppression of the "QUEERS ARE PERVERTS" viewpoint

I agree with you on one point: that, even after reading this, I have not encountered the "queers are perverts" viewpoint in any rational or well-articulated form

Ironholds (talk)‎

I am far more concerned with this destruction of a vigorous, uncensored, respectful and constructive "civic conversation" than I am with the silencing of the marriage norm, which the queer community understandably finds inconvenient. ("QUEERS ARE PERVERTS" is a crude statement of part of the marriage norm, which I have defined in another conversation on Wikinews.)

Wo'O Ideafarm (talk)‎

You can talk to yourself all you like.

The wonderful thing about free speech is we don't have to listen.

Brian McNeil / ^talk‎

If you live in the United States or in any other democracy, then you DO have a civic duty to listen. Democracy cannot function if the citizenry is closed minded and does not tolerate the effective expression of ideas that are unpleasant.

Wo'O Ideafarm (talk)‎

Touche, Ironholds! I just noticed the "even after reading this". My posts, overlong as they are, do not, and cannot given the space limitations, articulate my viewpoint in any detail or with any rigor. A full essay would be required to do that.

But this conversation can be a beginning. What I have posted should be enough for you to respond intelligently to. Tom Morris's post on the other thread, in which he offers an alternative definition of "couple", is the best example of the kind of intelligent response that I hunger for.

The love teaching of Jesus, which is the essence of the Christian way of life, is that we should be wholesomely connected with each other (and with God and with the Earth). Here, I seek wholesome connection in the form of respectful and constructive intellectual engagement, in which we mostly just listen to each other and learn from each other. That is the path on which true progress, including liberty and justice for the queer community, will be found.

I am a libertarian. I do not oppose the political objectives of the queer community. I am only opposed to the methods that they are using to achieve them.

Wo'O Ideafarm (talk)‎