I don't think he's manipulating anyone. He can barely string ten words together without losing his place. If he were my grandfather I'd take him to the doctor.

Darkfrog24 (talk)12:59, 25 May 2017

It doesn't necessarily follow that he isn't manipulating others. Nor that he isn't serving as a conduit for other manipulators.

Pi zero (talk)14:40, 25 May 2017